Menezes

Hello everyone. I'm not entirely new to the forum. I've read something here and there about this and that. I'm also a practitioner of a certain type of meditation for quite some time. I decided to join the forum as a member (albeit a bit reluctant from doing it because of some things I've seen here) because, well... it is as a great philosopher once said: "the bee obtains honey even from poisonous flowers", so I believe I might find people willing to share valuable information. As the title says, I'm looking for something real. The reason why I say that is because I have noticed a lot of people talking about things they only heard or read somewhere and are quickly to take such information as an indisputable truth. It is of my opinion that reading a book is not enough since the book is only a information, the first step -- the real work has to be done personally. The theoretical part is indispensable but theory without practice is illusion as practice without theory is blind and stupid. I'm not eager to try everything I see on the internet, but I am open to new possibilities. I believe this should go without saying but most stuff we see online about this "supernatural" universe is fake. In short, my reason for being here is to have contact with people who've had real results from their training and people who have very well based opinions on neikung/chikung. This is it! Thanks for reading.

Hey Luke. Sure I can. I am interested in any kind of results that you can tell for sure are a consequence of a chikung/neikung trainig. For instance... I've had a tai chi chuan teacher in 2015 who (apparently) mastered a specific lineage of chikung. He demonstrated his abilities to us which were basically superior resistence and strength. He also looks like he's in his thirties when in truth he is 50+ years old, plus some other minor things... anyway, I left him because the extent of his abilities were weak compared to some other abilities attainable through training in other lineages... besides, he had to meditate for a while before he could push his chi out of his body to show us his skills... that hardly sounds like something useful in a real fight. Regardless, it was a very good example of what I mean when I say "something real". But back to your question... I'm not only interested in results regarding strength and resistance... it's just anything beyond "feeling good" or "being healthier" which albeit being important things nonetheless are too hard to tell for sure whether it resulted from a specific kind of training or a multiplicity of other factors, you see? There are some people I know that trained for years (although I can't tell how diligent they were in their training) that still hasn't attained nothing... it's sad, really... if they had not been to hasty to trust information they see online they could've been practicing something legit and already have attained some real results... what I fear the most is practicing something that won't get me results and just waste my time and efforts, this is why I say I'm looking for something "real" and this is also the reason why I'm not too eager to try anything I see on the internet. As I've said... I already practice some kind of training but just as I've found information about it on the internet I believe there might be other useful information about other schools or lineages that I'm still not aware of, hence the reason why I joined this forum. For instance... I've heard that a Gary Clyman is not so hard to find and train with (even though he charges a lot relatively) and he also seems to be okay with demonstrating his abilities first-hand... I don't plan to make a trip to the US anytime soon but this is an example of useful information... I mean... who knows the day of tomorrow, right? Anyway I feel like I said more than I should've. If there are still questions please don't hesitate to ask and thank you for your comment.

Hey guys. Thanks for the replies. Just to be clear, what I mean with "real" is just something that can give you results. I'm not disdaining the study of the theoretical part of how "energy" (in its many forms) works in our body, but it is of my opinion that that alone won't get you anywhere (the study itself without practice). I mean... there are many people who have trained for years and never attained anything... a man might practice all his life and not get anywhere if he is not practicing something real as I see it... and it is so hard to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to chikung or neikung. There's so much disinformation everywhere so I believe we must thread very carefully... Basically, what I'm looking for is legitimate practices and legitimate students to share experiences and ideas.