MegaMind

What is detailed here isn't what we practice. We prefer John's instruction on video.

I see.

Indeed.

You have to understand how to filter. People claiming to be able to shoot lasers out of their eyes, and teleport or people who claim to have spirit dragons who talk to them, probably are not people you should be taking advice from. Just my two cents.

I thought you had a white dragon spirit which came to talk to you and also to the guests who visit you.

Amazing. Teleportation. Eye Lasers. Inter-dimensional portals. Fighting demons. Now faster than light speed travel. What other amazing abilities do you have?

Does he also talk to spirit dragons?

I don't buy you can teleport, shoot lasers out of your eyes, or open portals to worlds and fight ancient Naga demons. So I guess we are even?

It's not something we discuss in public, but rather hope others will come and see for themselves.

Starjumper, Jim recorded John giving instruction on video.

I don't identify with it, I see it as a personal attack, and against the forum rules.

That may be, but we were not hosting these pictures, nor did we remove them.

"rather seeing how it feels?" I am not talking about feelings, beliefs, etc. I am talking about events that occur external to the body.

Via our training we have all independently verified this system. Anyone who seriously undertakes the training can see the reality of it for themselves as well.

We are about as open minded as we can be without our brains falling out. Asking for scientists and medical doctors to be present to do their best to rule out fraud from occurring isn't being close minded at all.

Proof is evidence that compels a mind to accept it as true. Different people accept different evidence.

" the picture files were stored on some page that the Wimps controlled, therefore they were able to delete those pictures from where they were stored." This never happened.

We never deleted any pictures.

"There were only two Western students of Mo Pai, Kostas and JIm, and Kostas dropped out when he discovered it was a farce." There was Andreas Pollack from Australia, and many others as well which have not come forward publicly. "Lie #2 - "Jim was more advanced than many Indonesian students"" Very few Indonesian students were able to pass the exam Jim did. "Lie #3 - The instructions posted do not mention the importance of sitting on the ground"." In the instructions we have there are two paragraphs of instruction detailing how important being grounded is, and also the methods to help deal with things like mosquitoes, rain, snow etc. But it is not just information on being grounded that has been removed, literally every single thing which is important to the practice has also been removed.

"Obscure references to "feeling well, rejuvenated, sleeping well, having more energy" are head-signs for scamgong." We are not making any such claims.

"I'm simply suggesting that continued discussion of the topic with its adherents is futile. They have amply demonstrated they are immune to rational thought and common sense when it comes to the topic." We want evidence that a practice does something before we practice it. So far only Mo Pai and Tummo have evidence gathered with scientists and medical doctors present on camera to do their best to rule out fraud occurring. Certainly we hope in the future more practices and teachers will be willing to come forward.

We never deleted your pictures.