Sinai

well a green light on what i have learned : And my response

I agree with you dear friend also in some schools say that : "It is not the tool, it is who using that is important.". many masters including myself even with people who i know from different arts that talk the talk but don't walk the walk. The arts are important, but your intent, willpower, imagination, and what you feel are much more important. and again i agree with you i am not only in master Chia's side but i studied many other resources from different authors and different publications , those two methods which i mentioned are not only in UHT system take a look here : https://www.goldenelixir.com/press/occ_03_jindan_history.html and i have enough papers from these documents : https://www.goldenelixir.com/press/_sub_taoism.html 1- Taoist Internal Alchemy : An Anthology of Neidan Texts 2 - Cultivating the Tao : Taoism and Internal Alchemy 3 - The Seal of the Unity of the Three : A Study and Translation of the Cantong qi, the Source of the Taoist Way of the Golden Elixir 4 - The Book of the Nine Elixirs : An Early Chinese Alchemical Text and and some other documents and 2019 stuff , Prof Jerry Alan Johnson's bookstore is fascinating and similars with master's Chia in some topics but i know that still we have a long way to go does anyone here is familiar with Chinese language ? this way we can progress faster

right. if you practice his system without any preparations your body can not hold the energy ... i myself had this experience also in beginning of Fusion of 5 elements practice i test it with the first Pakua practice and suddenly i felt an enormous energy rising up to my teeth and suddenly my chin and teeth feeled numb... this is because i wasn't ready for this if you are ready like any system you are all set ... I saw terrible things happened for people doing Kryia Yoga without preparation and without master ... cautious must be taken seriously , the rules are the same

Dear VonKrankenhaus could you please describe those two techniques : Return to the Nothingness and the Crushing the Nothingness which you mentioned ? i am eager to know about them cause i wasn't aware of those ... are they the same with my desired techniques ? do just names changed ?

well he is a good teacher but of course i agree that nothing will be comparable to original Taoists scriptures and books but it is better to start from a point, I personally received this advice from a master that, in practices, despite of master, it isn't the art that is powerful, it is the practitioner. While the Techniques and Training Methods are extremely important, the biggest factor is who is doing the art and how they are doing it. The arts are important, but your intent, willpower, imagination, and what you feel are much more important. I know what you mean Mr Doyle and dear VonKrankenhaus and others, but here my point is the practices of Congress of Heaven and Earth and Reunion of Heaven and Man or anything beyond that i dont know...if you may please share your opinion

what make you say that ?!!

Thanks everyone for your posts I wanted to mention to 2 formulas of inner alchemy for returning to Wu Chi according to Master Chia's UHT System i will share them here with respects to UHT : https://www.universal-tao.com/products/congress_of_heaven_and_earth.html https://www.universal-tao.com/products/reunion_of_heaven_and_man.html Congress of Heaven and Earth This practice integrates the Early Heaven or formless Self with the Later Heaven (Earth) physical Self. The Self here identifies itself here with two dimensions that co-exist and co-create: the “formless form” of our being and the “substantial form” of our becoming. These two polar dimensions of our greater Self engage in cosmic sex. They couple in order to re-open the portal to their Original state, or “Pre-Self”. This pre-state or Primordial Heaven is called hundun, the primal chaos-unity that preceded the “big bang” of the cosmic egg cracking open. The Three Originals (san yuan) of Heaven, Earth, and Humanity are gathered in the three body cauldrons as original Ching (Jing), original Chi, and original Shen. This three-tone harmonic chord is resonated with the fundamental or original tone of time and space. Consciousness then stabilizes in the axial center where our true multi-dimensional nature can now be embodied. This is symbolized by a tonal double vortex spinning faster than the speed of light within the void of space. Into this is fused our inner sage’s immortal presence, the quintessence of humanity meditating in the center of a cosmic torus (spiritual black hole). We must enter this portal to complete our journey of Return to the Origin. This formula is difficult to describe in words. It involves the incarnation of a male and a female entity within the body of the practioner. These two entities have sexual intercourse within the body. It involves the mixing of the Yin and Yang powers on and about the crown of the head, being totally open to receive energy from above, and the regrowth of the pineal gland to its fullest use. When the pineal gland has developed to its fullest potential, it will serve as a compass to tell us in which direction our aspirations can be found. Taoist Esotericism is a method of mastering the spirit, as described in Taoist Alchemy Without the body, the Tao cannot be attained, but with the body, truth can never be realized. This Formula consists of: Mingling (uniting) the body, soul and spirit with the universe, fully developing the positive to eradicate the negative completely, and returning the spirit to nothingness. Reunion of Heaven and Man This stage is the integration of the eight previous levels of consciousness into the experience of living simultaneously in the present moment in all dimensions, from physical linear time to spirit’s eternal time. This state cannot be fully known or defined conceptually for others. Perhaps it might be conceptualized as the experience of living fully in the Wu Chi, the Supreme Unknown. This is the true achievement of the authentic or Immortal Self, a permanent state of grace known as Wu Wei, effortless action, or spontaneous action without acting. Creation (of the manifest) and Return to Formless Origin seamlessly complete each other. Attainment of this ninth level is spontaneous, and happens when the inner will of our Immortal sage within has reached complete alignment with the Tao. It may occur only by direct transmission from the Tao to the mature and receptive adept. We compare the body to a ship, and the soul to the engine and propeller of a ship. This ship carries a very precious and very large diamond which it is assigned to transport to a very distant shore. If your ship is damaged (a sick and ill body), no matter how good the engine is, you are not going to get very far and may even sink. Thus, we advise against spiritual training unless all of the channels in the body have been properly opened, and have been made ready to receive the 10,000 or 100,000 volts of super power which will pour down into them. The Taoist approach, which has been passed down to us for over five thousand years, consists of many thousands of methods. The formulae and practices we describe in these books are based on such secret knowledge and the author’s own experience during over forty years of study and of successively teaching thousands of students. Main Goal of Taoist Practitioners: This level—overcoming reincarnation and the fear of death through Enlightenment. Higher Level—the Immortal Spirit and Life after death. Highest Level—the Immortal Spirit in an Immortal Body. This body functions like a mobile home to the spirit and soul as it moves through the subtle planes, allowing greater power of manifestation. as you saw these formulas still not written anywhere at least in English but in Daozang 道藏 which contains 5000 volumes but unfortunately i am not good in Chinese and trying to master it Dear vonkrankenhaus you mentioned about two practices : Return to the Nothingness and the Crushing the Nothingness could you please explain these two or share its resources for learning and practicing ? I would really appreciate it

Hello and Greetings to all my dear new friends its really good to know this forum .... i am Sinai and practiced Qi Gong , Reiki, Yoga, Tao yoga and of course Tao by Master Mantak chia and Professor Johnson of course but only 1 book of Exorcism, since i can't have access to those great materials but its OK .... i am now in search of last formulas of Supreme Unknown Alchemy " congress of heaven and earth " and " Reunion of heaven and man " for reaching Wu Chi the primordial Tao and i hope in this forum i can finally find my final answer to more than 10 years of seeking ... and finally i am really glad and happy that i am among of such a nice and good community ... <3