welkin

take it from me, as someone who's bumped heads with many in this forum with fairly indoctrinated minds. And someone who's had conflict with Earl Grey. As i'm sure you may have already seen. I agree with your self actualization and that true answers lie within. based on reading your op, i feel like i relate quite a bit also since a young age. But i will say you don't necessarily have to listen to Earl Grey's guidance. Listen to your own guidance. But let your guidance discern what he's saying, because it comes from a good place no matter how he may come off. at least, in the case of energy work. If what you believe you have inside is real, then you should be fine, as it will protect you on your journey. But do avoid, unnecessary hardships that may be produced due to being identified by this thing inside. Which can then turn into ego, and as a result unconsciously creating situations of self sabotage. Because ego will always exist, and is what gives us the opportunity to identify that consciousness that it seems that you have. Just listen and appreciate what is advised for now, since you're fairly new. Based on what you're saying, i can also see potential energy issues based on what i can interpret. You just need to tweak your approach slightly. i promise I've gone through this. As good or as talented i thought i was at manifestation and energy work, i made the mistake of letting others' egoic energy enter, and as a result lose temporarily what I had found inside early in the year. If you see the same indoctrinated patterns in some, listen and discern only what they say. don't judge. For they don't know what you see. And yet, they can still give good advice. Just as we may have been treated or seen a certain way by the masses. if we judge in them in the same manner, we're no better. And that's the mistake i made. It disallows us from continuing to pursue a light path. Use the information and precautions that already exist. And you be the one to discern what to do once you put in the time to try it. Follow a known path for now. If you happen to read anything from myself back then, the only reason I didn't follow a traditional path in energy work, is because i had a lot of physical trauma that there is just no way for me to have been able to work with it. And that's where the whole God thing comes in. He/She/They will assist us and protect us. But there's a point where we may fall into a trap of ego. And that's what makes Bozos keep people like us silent. Because in the short term, we will always be wrong and make mistakes because we see many things differently. because we currently live in a short term world. Follow a path. Ask questions, be curious. I would even say don't know anything, just learn for now. If you say you have what you have, you'll develop rapidly nonetheless and possibly find even deeper insight, previously unknown. People like us are in the long term, no matter how short term we wish it were. It's in our purpose or genetics. Apologies for this TDLR post. But i hope it will help you avoid the pitfalls. even if we can survive them. Trust me, they suck real real bad. No matter how much i may feel that they accelerate the learning. They suck so bad, i'd rather have taken a bit longer or put aside my ego, than fall into them. And btw, you don't necessarily need to start with something like Mopai. As you stated all answers are within. Choose a more complete path with the right precautions. You'll still be able to reach high levels of ability. And you can always transition out if you want too. Learn like this, but don't silence God's voice that will help you make the discernment you need. I know the feeling of not wanting to sacrifice our ability to find answers in ways others could only imagine. You don't need to choose, just do both. Best wishes my friend

inferno

fire

thanks for the legitimate response you sound witty and intelligent. gj you win at social appearance.

You should read what you initially posted. You'll realize we're on the same page. which is why i'm suprised of certain people's posts you ended up liking later on.

I could argue we all have a mental disease. The difference is that certain mental diseases thrive more depending on the time period and circumstances. if we're talking about extremities, of course i'll say mental disease is real. But i wouldn't say He had a mental disease. this is if you're talking about Everything. Limahong, idk. though he might not have one either. and i've been affected by him just as equally as you btw. An alien might look at 'normal' people, and say that we are incredibly diseased based on all their actions. it can also be as easy as hierarchy, and difference in definition of mental disease in each one. After all, it's not like God invented the term or definition of mental disease. Man did. And unless you're saying that man or group of men/women were perfect, then you would at least have to ponder whether our perspectives and criteria for what mental disease is, is even true. i think it's too much to further explain all my perspectives on it, which i'm sure most don't care about anyways. But all of this is simply a chain reaction. There's a topic on the forum as to how and why are we getting to this point of turmoil the world, that supposedly we continually get to. Yet we look for answers outwardly. As if we're not a direct representation of the world we live in. the world has grown cold and so have we. This is the problem. And if people believe that we're simply more conscious by the things we read about, learn, experience. False. We're all asleep, and playing a game in eachother's dreams. Some of us figured it out early, some later. Some with ease, some difficult. All looking for a safe haven from a mad world. Just the fact that you got out is luck. did we get out though? Or do we get out with the resentment that we had to find our way to get out. With resentment so hidden, that we don't even know it exists. And we take it out on those who didn't have the luck or opportunity to find their own safe haven. And possibly end up with a mental disease. Blaming them for the way they are. And yet, we don't take the responsibility to spread opportunity to those who don't have it yet. We know their lives so well, we don't understand why they can't make that effort themselves to make that change. We spread help, attention, care, love only to those we find deserving. creating our own little community of those who found something similar. Only to fall into the same tribal, societal trap we despised in the first place. That's why nothing changes. My heart tells me all this, and that's why i manifest anything i want, including what i don't want. if that makes sense. That's where true power comes from. from the source. truth. not what we knowledgeably, intellectually think is true. And you know why i know this is true? because i practically never utilized anything that i possess to benefit my own life. My potential has always been exponentially higher than anything i've accomplished. Even the time after time again, i've prove it to myself. Why? Becuase i never understood why in the effing world, things weren't equal. People would say, things come easy to you, you're not grateful, that's why you don't accomplish. They mistook my ungratefulness, with i wanted to be so fair, i brought myself lower. lower to understand why things aren't equal. Lower, so that i could find the true core and understand where my ability to manifest/power originates so that everyone in the world can have it too. And i am pretty sure i am near finding what it is in order to explain it. I don't say this to boast. But i can already do and understand certain things on a much deeper level than others who practice certain things for years. I can pick it up easily. I can get good at literally anything. There's nothing you could tell me i wouldn't understand or get good at. Even if it takes me longer to understand certain things than others. And yet, that is a main part of it. Not understanding so quickly with your mind or the minds of others we see highly. But the intelligence of something higher. Again, i promise I'm not boasting. I'm trying to make a point that wherever i am able to understand how things work, is the same source i derive what my opinion on the whole mental disease comes from. But I'll tell you right now. My chains seem to have been unlocked this year, and more specifically this month. i've gotten to the point where i now know why talking means nothing. it will never convince those who it matters to convince. it requires another kind of proof. I will prove everything I'm saying soon. you'll see.

even the ones who made their music. just strange, yet kinda obvious:

I'm losing the purpose of why i even posted in this thread initially. Okay, so if Everything was to come back and was more conscientious in the way he communicated so that people could interpret and care to read what he says. Would you accept him and let him develop that trust? or would you judge him based on everything else he's done?

I now know why your thing says happy idiot. Though i don't think you're an idiot.just happy

Never heard of this. Thanks.

my mistake, i deleted my clarification. none of the OGs. Just towards a couple who i'm not really quite sure why they're talking. I think they just want to be a part of the gangster group. Literally have no value to add, just talking to talk or insult.

Do you feel better now?

coward way of communicating with so much wit. i wonder if your ability to speak was taken away, what value if at all you'd have. Then again, your value is already shown in the things you say.

pseudo and heavy are just terms that i use due to the fact that most people who are too blind to believe anything. Therefore pseudo or the idea of it being heavy is more believable for their brains. Sorry for the confusion. I now know we are on the same page. Not that i didn't think so previously. just didn't know how much. There's no disagreement here. I agree and am aware of literally everything you're saying. I'll say right away, idk. But i believe that we both agree, that idk doesn't mean 'i don't know anything' either. From my earlier experiences this year, my intuition is telling me that all 3 are true. But it could be what parts of the 3 are true, is more of the question. i'm not sure about whether it matters what specific things we know either. I know the details are important. But i also believe it only matters depending on the context. Sometimes detailed accuracy are more of a distraction than positive progression. And sometimes generality is what blinds us from the truth in the details. This thing we're dealing with globally though, i feel like it may not be as important to know all or every specific detail. So then what is important right? It would be very simple to say to open ourselves and find true truths in the patterns we see in the world and ourselves. But i do think that there are deeper levels of understanding than through intellect or emotion that we're still unaware of. And therefore maybe that's why we don't need to know everything externally as intellectual proof, because maybe there something greater out there, down there, or in here that has our back. As in mother earth herself. Which will reveal truths to those who are worthy or will do something with it. Nothing new though. Just saying this could be the case. I don't want to seem all hypothetical though. I truly mean it when i say that i want and will take action to make a difference before my time is done. But in the way that does change the course of.. i'll just end it here. If mother earth is a god in of herself, do you think the cataclysms are controlled by her depending on the necessity. or is it just natural occurrence based on the energies from the moon, sun, timing? The thing is i can get really creative and come up with many many scenarios in which one could be true. But that wouldn't help i don't think. i may be wrong, sometimes creative thought on scenario in combination with logical/intellectual analysis does draw true conclusions that wouldn't have come up with only the analysis aspect. i just don't know. It could be a combination of an alien species creating the human race at a earlier time. cataclysm happens. few survive. another race comes, enslaves the ones from the previous ones. and now mother earth is like nah, we don't like the new ones, we liked the old ones. Lol. What are the intentions or purposes though? to leave the planet? to get rid of overpopulation to create abundance for those who survive? I also wonder if evil is definitely dominating, as it seems to be. or if good is hiding ready to come out when the time is right. It would be very somber to know that there really is only evil making plans.

I guess a pirate's life for you it is. At least it looks like you're having fun posting in this strange manner.

So he's still able to post?

not really taking it personal from most honestly. It was just a specific situation i felt was uncalled for. i'm not saying i know or don't know anything. i wrote what i wrote, to get help. i honestly don't care whether it's the dantien or organs. if it happens to be one or the other, cool. The only reason i say i don't care is because it was unclear, based on the research of different people's opinions. edit: I do need more grounding. or at least just communicate in a different way to not discredit myself for what i know or do.

So i got my consultation, thankfully lower stomach is okay, though i still feel pretty bad, and digestion is all the place. Therefore will need major changes to my diet. Mentioned both fragrant and flying phoenix will be good for me. To not complicate though, i'm sticking with FP. Everything else is private, but i will say that i do recommend that consultation, worth the money.

Yes, but at the same time, he was affecting taomeow specifically too. So i understand why the reaction. But doesn't have to keep going this way. Not to mention many thought he had some mental disorder or whatever. Probably more of an issue like myself not liking how things are. Error was method of communication. Anyways, i'm not trying to be all fruitful or a sob story. I legitimately think this limits the ability of the forum to grow, and more people to interact. There is a silence that exists here due to the hushing others. Which i'm not condemning anymore. But i am sure nothing like this will last. Though, the lack of growth may be just the current time period we're living in. But something tells me it's not that. Less hushing, more understanding of newbies = growth of understanding of things and others for literally everyone.

I read the thread again. i didn't find anyone else but you mentioning that. did you even answer my post honestly, or is it just your not on purpose hate spreading again? Or just keep it to Jeff. leave me out of it.

If that's the best advice, why did no one advise to seek medical advice? Though ya.. i mean i would never advise not going if they wanted to.