Giles

QED 👍🏻 Keep diggin' old fella. 🤣

Even funnier; you imagined that some anonymous poster wanted to "save face". 🤣 Keep them coming dude I'm starting to have fun now.

That's actually quite funny; you imagined it was a pissing contest. 🤣

In fact, nothing is hidden from those who know how to observe correctly.

If you're saying that an effective sitting practice gets taken off the cushion into (so-called) mundane life, then we're almost certainly on the same chapter (although perhaps not on the same page), Mark. 😉

These are quite useful and relevant to this discussion. I'm happy to lend them to anyone who's seriously interested in this topic (DM me if you're interested in borrowing either or both).

Some certainly underestimate the foundational importance of yamas & niyamas.

Although the axle is very much alive.

The Way I was taught involved parking the body so that it doesn't catch the mind by being uncomfortable, restless etc. Hope that makes sense? Hypnotic trance is also very different from the meditation that I was taught.

Yet Lao Tzu asserts that the sage does nothing. So perhaps he was mistaken or perhaps you haven't discovered that timeless stillness?

Do you [really] have the patience to wait until your mud settles and the water is clear? ~ Lao Tzu ~ 🤣

Perhaps you're overthinking the issue?

Finger problem..?