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Welcome! Flying Phoenix and Spring Forest both are regarded rather highly around here. Flying Phoenix has a ridiculously long thread with more information than you'd ever need. Spring forest has some good threads too like This one about This guy's personal experience and development with the system. And their website is ver helpful too. https://www.springforestqigong.com/ and here's the flying Phoenix one.

Sri Yukteswar Yoganandas guru in the book the Holy science goes into detail about how a binary star to ours causes the procession of the equinox, and the zodiacal /yoga cycle by sending us way around the galaxy and when we are closest to the center it's the golden spiritual ages, but we just ended the furthest point and are heading back up thus the massive influx of technology and knowledge in the last 2 centuries. very fascinating take from a supposed highly enlightened master.

Thanks for the recommendation. The guy I originally learned from taught me a a bit of Damo's System, like some of the foundational moves several years back. Lately I've been working on the Marriage of Heaven and Earth set from a book and videos from Bruce Frantzis' system, and it seems to be pretty effective for me at my current level. I didn't specify where I am which is Virginia Beach. That looks like its near Washington DC which is pretty far away, I'm planning on going to a good acupuncturist locally soon and I'm gonna ask him if he knows anyone in the area.

So it wasn't a happy ending after all? Sorry, someone will laugh. Hope you find something, I live in a very starved area for it in South Eastern Virginia and have the same issue trying to find local high level teachers. A lot of good teachers seem to migrate out to the west coast which is understandable, chiller vibe and beautiful natural landscape, also closer to Asia. But Bruce Frantzis' system, Lee Holden and YMAA , and Spring Forest Qigong are all located in America. There has to be something legit in New York though. Upon looking at Bruce Frantzis' website there seems to be an in person trainer in New York. https://www.energyarts.com/instructors-search/

It's a good question and it looks like you got some good answers already! I have limited experience with the Golden Dawn, only 1 year, but just in my Semi Armchair opinion from my overall analysis of many of the type of people that join those types of orders or systems. Most are likely very unqualified to actually do the work you could say. Which is why banishing for a while might be a good idea. Many are still very egotistical, and have not done much work on purifying themselves of vices and petty attitudes of things like revenge etc, even in the leadership. They may be very talented or incredibly interested in the material, but probably shouldn't be doing it. There was a reason ancient mystery schools and some modern had like a year of a probationary period to see if people were actually worthy to become initiates. It can become very culty which kinda reinforces my opinion, and why I bailed after a year. Some spend 20 years in and haven't improved their character much at all. Then others absolutely thrive. So obviously it's not everyone but many might be getting into it for the wrong reasons perhaps? I'd say it was just the one I joined but it seems to be a sterotype of many different ones based on what I've heard from former adepts of other orders who run podcasts. Like Esoterinerd and Magick without Fears. And another is they usually self destruct just repeating the same history. Just some thoughts. Could be completely wrong.

I've been noticing or rather thinking this a lot lately. Many groups when they lose their original leader tend to degrade, or never seem to produce anyone of substance. I've honestly been thinking about this a lot lately due to being so fascinated by actual high level mystics or you could say saints. The people who train under them get that guru disciple relationship of having an actual master with Gnosis that can personally guide them, so their progress can be sped up exponentially, as well as being able to personally see what is possible which builds faith and positive outlook which also speeds things up. I wonder if it's a karma thing to be one of the lucky ones to end up in that situation, that the time is right for you. Because I certainly feel lost at times trying to just do long distance training. Now I digress and need to specify I don't think Lewis or people who start orders likes the Golden Dawn groups were any sort of that level. The proof is in the pudding there since many seem to self destruct due to petty infighting. I personally respect Amorc because I learned of it from a friend and think it has good effects on people. But I'm also very well aware of the controversy involved with their founding, and the term Charlatan being thrown around by several sources including Manly P. Hall. So whether their true Rosicrucians or just a good group for esoteric training that coopted the name for advertising sake is a mystery to me.

This is a Great point. For instance since it already went there. The video of John Chang lead to Kostas traveling to study with him which led to The Magus of Java book. Me seeing the video on YouTube years back led to me noticing the book in a metaphysical book store. Then reading it which changed my life by getting me into Qigong, and drastically shifting my worldview.

I'm going to share some obvious results of practice from my own personal experience I've seen happen. Such as beginning to feel Qi when you couldn't at all before, then this increasing in different areas of the body, As well as feeling heat during practices, becoming much more relaxed and calm overall. Inner peace. Your thoughts nearly entirely shutting off. Not identifying with said thoughts. Health problems disappearing or no longer mattering. Being able to choose you're emotional state at times. Like making yourself happy for no reason just by focusing on the feeling of joy or love. Dream life becoming more active like Lucid dreams. All sorts of mini psychical ones like precognitive thoughts of knowing someone's coming to visit or about to call or text you. These are just some things I've personally experienced since I started about 4 years ago that were not present before.

Sorry for the full quote and late reply, but thank you for the advice I will look into it! I realized I was extremely active in sports my whole life till going to college, then it became only surfing, which is roughly when it started so perhaps my youthful vitality and constant active lifestyle preventing it from manifesting sooner. I also realized I distracted the topic... forgive me for that. I Just saw the one part, and commented from my personal experience.

See I actually like the idea of certain researchers/authors like Freddy Silva who compares ancient sites all over the world using Sacred geometry, celestial, alignments, procession, as well as the local stories and mythology and his own intuitive insights he gets at the places, that sites Like Saqsaywaman, and more specifically at Lake Titicaca might be up to 12,000 plus years old, or whats considered antedeluvian, and could be related to those multiple groups of 7 sages whose stories show up at the begging of almost all major cultures in our modern history.( not the mainstream books but the actual culture's histories.) He's like Graham Hancock but lesser known and way more interesting for those into mystical things.

Well I'm certainly no expert, nor said anything about trowel marks, or know what that means, I actually missed most of the converstation. Just sharing some cool photos and new ideas. There were tons of stones with something that sort of resembles a handle, a quick google image search will show these like and some that were hollow inside with a channel in a museum showing some were interlocked together. I'm just fascinated by it. The more you research it, people have no idea how old it all is or how long ago they were built. Why would a lost art be out of the question from a time when we weren't so disconnected from direct wisdom from the spiritual world. I think a chemical reaction that can soften granite is being rather conservative in that realm of possibility. But also She was an Archeologist/tour guide in the area and is making a movie about the idea that's mostly done. I know how funny it sounds with what I originally said haha. That's why I was there helping out. The softening I think is more the idea that it just softens the surface you put it on so you can smooth or shape it. Some bird there is known for digging nests in rock faces by using some plant mixed with it's saliva.

I've also heard this. Percy Faucet, I think is the guys name the Lost city of Z book/movie is about him. I just want to share some ideas about it because it fascinates me, and I've researched it to a point. I've heard other references to this as well but also just 2nd hand accounts. My Aunt learned of it from Peruvians in the Amazon saying they could soften the stone with some kind of natural mixture Then this is where it gets extremely fascinating. I also heard reference to it in an interview from Praveen Mohan an Indian Archeologist. He mentioned that The Sculptors from ancient family lines in India, still have this secret formula and use it to make temple statues, etc. It makes sense that if the top or bottom of one stone is softened the next one is going to conform to it perfectly from the weight with no gaps, though it could be a polymer too. Now how old they are is a total mystery unless you get into psychic territory. But you can see clear similarities in the oldest stuff in Egypt and the stuff in South America. If you get into Steiner He talks about how they are all post Atlantean cultures, with Vedic India being the oldest, around 7000 bc then Zoroastrian Persia, then the Egyptian/Samaritan/Chaldean culture last, But this is Psychic territory so questionable.. but it resonates with me. Here's a couple images I took when I went a few years ago to Cusco. The 1st is some really scooped out looking stones at a place called Qenqo. The 2nd is in downtown Cusco at a famous spot for the many sided stones and 3rd is at the ancient megalithic temple of Saqsaywaman.The last is an example of Ancient vs Incan architecture, And here is that interview where it's referenced https://www.earthancients.com/?portfolio=praveen-mohan-pyramid-cultures-of-ancients-cambodia

Thanks for looking! I've been very curious about this and other problems from an energy standpoint. I moved to Florida for college back then with the insane humidity and mold everywhere. Ha that was my only explanation. Started drinking as most people that age do perhaps but was already doing that before without issues. Roughly 13 years ago hard to remember. my habits , diet, and negative emotions and thoughts are like night and day compared to now. But it still persists. Adding in had major depression a year or two before it started making me think of possible heart center issue from that could be related? Do you mean its like some sort of energy blockage or entity attachment, and do you suggest I focus upon that area to attempt to heal it? I've been trying to learn some healing skills and can activate and send qi from my hands at will to a lesser extent.

This is interesting but probably not universal? I've had a weird allergy that developed in my early 20s where my breathing became restricted. Usually one side or the other it switches and pure white mucous. It could very well be an energy issue, it's very annoying I have to drink a lot of water to compensate for the dehydrating effect the lack of oxygen has. But I wonder if having some kinda allergy that causes chronic inflammation of sinuses is different or could be the same thing because doctors have been usless.

Thanks for sharing! This is what I love about The Upanishads, and The Bhagavad Gita. They are so Concise and clear yet still esoteric. But when you come to the point of having ears to hear as they say, or understand the concepts. You're just blown away because its all there so straight forward, yet so deep.

Just thought people would find this cool, I was so surprised when it came up. I was playing this games Tales of Berseria, and out of nowhere there was a full on Lower Dantian reference in the middle of a conversation. starts at 27:30 for context. Link should start there.

Ya seems a bit abusive. The rest of the video has way more intense stuff like breaking spears braced on their throats and the ground by breaking stones over their backs etc, holding he kid by the ankles and breaking a huge stone with his head like a jackhammer so it gets worse from that perspective. You should watch the full video if you haven't from my original reply it's nuts.

Just wanted to share a video I found seems extremely legit. Also this one I think I saw here somewhere

Hey this is so old now, but what you said is fascinating in light of what I've studied ! I share a lot of Daskalos recently simply because he seems to be the highest most legit the west has had in centuries. But! He as a Christian mystic of Buddha level, wrote an akashic book on Jesus. And I remember a specific teaching of Jesus I'll link a screenshot that says this exactly for anyone that is interested. This is his actual teaching if you are willing to believe. He says it's human made demons created by evil thoughts and actions than can posses people not the natural ones.

Thanks for the comment, completely understandable where your'e coming from with that. I can't say for certain, but it's put in modern vernacular to explain the meaning of what he is saying, so perhaps those terms are just the closest modern ones that explain the meaning of what he was saying. He puts in a lot of the greek and Aramaic as well in images with the writer's handwriting. The whole first century rabbi/ carpenter thing gets a bit over emphasized. I only say this because from my experience a lot of people use that to limit him and his ideas or make him sound like some rebellious guy who just copied others ideas. But I went full on from giving up the normal Christian idea of him as the Word or logos years ago for someone who became self realized to going back after studying deep into Daskalos' teachings. I had already gotten into the idea he was an Essene and an initiate, possibly a Magician through my own similar paths which makes him radically different than the typical Israelite Rabbis, Because they were much more influenced by the Greek and Egytpian mysteries, and culture. but Daskalos whom is very trustworthy to me ( Ye shall know them by their fruits) defends the idea of him as the incarnated Logos or Word as John says from his own experience though. Which I fully get if people don't want to buy into. But him and many others who take this idea who were Mystics say he wasn't just another teacher but a literal event in history for the evolution of the human soul, and his overall message wasn't about Sin but to remind man who he truly is. On a side note and unrelated to your response! I don't really trust academic sources that go into these topics, they are always much later and give very little actual information, just references to people or times or places, but just the oldest official records which really doesn't mean anything, but then became basis for history and dogma that puts a mental block or blinders on people that are trained that way it's a form of attachment, many in those fields haven't or won't ever get past so they will never see the actual truth.

Hi friends, wanted to share some profound, and awesome sayings probably actually from Jesus stripped of the 2000 years of Christian dogma and doctrines, though obviously in english instead of the Aramaic, or Greek. They come from The book "Joshua Immanuel the Christ". Which is an account of his life from the Akashic record, universal memory, book of life whatever term you prefer. I know that sounds sketchy, but it comes from Daskalos (Stylianos Atteshilis) There are several threads about him on here. Through his very advanced abilites, and his ability of at-one-ment, being able to Attune to Christ, as well as his own past life experiences as an Essene novice who was involved at the time, though he had already previously been an Egyptian Hierophant before that lifetime so was one of the few disciples who could actually grasp the teachings. And of course like any deeper truth it sounds a lot like all the others. "When a human being awakens transmuting his petty self into his real Self, his Spirit-Soul-Ego, he becomes Self-concious , powerful and wise. Then the Mind, in all its modes of existence, emanates directly from his real Ego-Spirit-Soul-Self. The lost son comes home. You, my disciple-healers, must use Mind Substance-energy in the etheric doubles of your gross material bodies, storing it in your abdomens. From the bellies of thoe who follow my instructions will pour rivers of Mind-energy as living water. If you would heal, beloved ones, do every day the special exercises I have taught you. You must not waste the precious Mind Vitality by thoughtless, careless living. you must keep in check always and under your control all your emotions, feelings, and thoughts. Become Masters of the Mind, controlling Mind Vital energy, and become masters of visualization, creating in your minds precise images, accurate in form, size and color, so that you will be able to materialize these later using Mind Vitality. I have so much more to teach you, but you are not ready yet to understand me. Practice , and if you are serious, disciplined, and observant, you will find the way to the Light. I have given you the keys. Now you must use them." One more of a classic bible one expanded When asked by a disciple "Who are you?" Dear one, I am a human being as you are. I have a human body. I am a I am and feel I am, a Spirit-Ego-Self in my El Shaddai Selfhood in the One-ness of Alaha. I know and I feel that all human beings live and exist in my El Shaddai Selfhood. To understand this you must free yourself from the illusion of the worlds of separateness and by introspection enter the Kingdom of the Heavens. which is in your Spirit-Soul-Ego-Self. I am the Law and the cause of everything and the course of everything. I am the truth and the Life everlasting "Now, like most human beings, you live instinctively and subconsciously. But in the course of time you will unfold in your personality your awareness, your Self-conciousness, and your Self- Superconciousness by using Mind Vitality Supersubstance properly. Then you will know who you really are." "To know who I AM, you must know who you ARE. Does it matter who I am? What matters is to know how to reach Self-realization, how to unfold in yourself Superconciousness. "By practicing for many years exercises in concentration, meditation and visualization, you will be able to attune the consciousness to any object of study, to know its nature, to move it even to dematerialize and re-materialize it. These are the first steps of Self-Superconciousness. To be able to Self Conciously to reach the at-one-ment with the El Shaddai, the Logos, with the life everlasting, is to enter in the One-ness of Alaha. You will not lose your Ego-Self, but your time and place changing self is transmuted into your Spirit-Soul-Ego-Self. You lose nothing. You gain everything." Now for what these techniques he's speaking of are I don't know. The current system teaches a lot of basic breath work and some visualizations as preliminary teachings to heal, and strengthen your skills. The line of storing the energy in your abdomen sounds a lot like LDT work, though i've read elsewhere they focus more specifically on the Solar Plexus. I know some systems love Visualization, and others don't give it much credit. According to Jesus it is the golden key to finding the true self and the kingdom of heaven within, but he makes a distinction between perfect visualization and uncontrolled fantasy. He considers the imagination one of our highest Godly abilities that when perfected opens the doors to materialization, and finding god within.

Now I'm no expert, and don't know of Taoist ways. But if you have some skills creating qi and visualizing, Daskalos the Christian mystic talked about creating colored balls of light to send to people, You visualize yourself creating It using your etheric hands, guess you can use physical too especially if you can feel it. Then after it's pretty established you simply focus on the person's face and it is supposed to go to them and enter their etheric double. Sky blue, or white are general purpose Adding 5 screenshots of one of his practices and the description of why and how. But he is/was incredibly legit as a healer, helped thousands never accepted a penny.

I don't remember the exact quote but I recently read a book about Daskalos a Christian mystic with all the bells and whistles of a highest level yogi and Saint. He said specifically regarding eastern religion and more specifically emptiness that it was missing the point. the real point to him that Christ opened was that it's not about emptying yourself into God but rather becoming and individualized God selfhood being aka a cocreator with God. You're meant to keep your individual self but essentially become an individualized ray of God which is the point of incarnation to gain God consciousness but be your own being who is self aware and has free will unlike the arch angels.

Hello friends, I figured this would be a good place to ask about book recommendations specifically about high level spiritual masters. The few I've read I love and I feel just reading about what they can do etc while it can being distracting on the path is also incredible at building faith and hope! So ones I have read include the greek author magus series lol. Magus of Java about John Chang and more impressive the Magus of Strovolos about Stylianos Atteshlis aka Daskalos. Basically a Christian buddha who had vast wisdom and power that died in the mid 90s. As well as things like autobiography of a Yogi