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I dont have access to Achillea Millefolium in my country , but that does sound promising that in the future i will order online stalks for that , it sounds promising , but for now will stick with the yarrow stalks to the big one and i am considering using now the coin methods on small stuff I was really not sure i was suppose to cut the yarrow bundle in the middle or not .... i understood until now that i am suppose to just split it to 2 bundles - not to try to cut it in the middle

And than you everyone who has replied .... i think it all helps my understanding

@remod Thank you very much , even though i think damo mitchell talks about using only the stalks ... i think i might sin and try other methods for small questions (even though i do feel unease about it) 1 . I looked in your website - just want to confirm my understanding : everyone that has this prob Prob(6) = 1/16 Prob(8) = 7/16 Prob(7) = 5/16 Prob(9) = 3/16 are just like yarrow stalk probability ? ( i ask cause i understand 6 in yarrow is 1/16 and 9 3/16 .... but i just want to confirm with you about the non changing lines as well ) 2 . just to be sure cause i read some article that talked about the 4 coin as be best - do the 2 coin method you suggest just as good as the 4 coin - or you think that 4 coins has some benefit over the 2 coins ?

@remod You mean the fact it has asymmetry means you get more random results than the coins and that is the benefit ? on second thought - if its still fixed percentages of how much changing yin and yang lines there is - so still not sure what is the benefit in having different percentages of yin and yand in changing lines if its still fixed percentages (and if anything fixed to favor one type which makes it less accurate?) ? The yarrow stalks are a big hassle for me (time and also some shoulder pain) but in general i assume also for you they are at least a tiny bit more of a hassle than throwing 4 coins .... so for you its the exact exact same thing 4 coins and yarrow stalks ? also if that is the case i wonder why throwing 4 coins (or other methods) didnt catch up ... I do remember right now that there is some spiritual reason for yarrow stalks - as in there is a reason to use the yarrow plant Achillea millefolium specifically and not any other type of plant even not from same family of plants ... also i remember damo talking about picking them when there is full moon so they have more qi in them I would love to switch to coins (maybe even online) in the past i even wanted more because i read in many places the way to improve i ching is just to ask it a lot and as much as possible even on trivial things - or even on how my day will go ... so to do that online or with coins is no brainer i could do 1000 every day - but with yarrow stalks cause of little pain its less convenient .... but on other hand some really make it to be stalks or nothing , while some say stalks for big decisions and coins for small ones and online generator for smaller ones, so im trying to understand this whole issue better

@Michael Sternbach can you explain what you mean by that ? (where i can learn about the underlying Natural Philosophy and what are the first principles ? ) do you mean to read about how the hexgrams develop - as in something i saw in past and remember vaguley - that every hex developed from the one on its left ( 5 from 34 and 34 from 1) ? In what way are they more in line ? in the way remod wrote ( more leaning to changing yang lines the yin lines ?) i do not like using the yarrow stalks not only cause of time but because i get some shoulder pain , but both a teacher i had and damo mitchell talk about using yarrow stalks and not coins ... so i dont want to use a bad method with bad results

@terry How i can improve my understanding of i-ching except consulting it ? To sit and stare at the different hexagrams all at once ? move one by one and stare at each 5 minutes ? 10 minutes ? i assume to stare at hexagrams - and not at triagrams alone right ? Also wonder what is your thought about using yarrow stalks vs coins ? i was adviced to not use coins only yarrow stalks so i wonder if you agree with that and what is the reason for it ?

Awesome , thanks , and it makes sense

I asked the i-ching what is my current level of understanding of the i-ching ? and how i can improve it ? (both in same reading) the results i got is hexagram 23 with changing line at the top ... which makes it change to hexagram 2 (hidden hex is 2 as well) I wonder what are peoples thoughts on this ? and since people always ask what i understand i will say that i am not sure at all what is the reply to what is my current level of understanding - but it seems that hex 23 basically says not to try to improve my i-ching (so in my case to not start to use it again - at least not now at this time) and doesnt show how to improve my i ching understanding Would love to read what people think about the results and how they interpret them ?

@mcoolio Thanks for the good reply But if the one changing line is the one yang line .... than it all becomes yin (change to hex 2) - doesnt this mean the situation is entering a period of darkness ? maybe trying to change things will cause me to be stuck ? or that no matter what i will be stuck so best not waste effort on it - and in this case not try to use the i ching ? the general judgment of the hex seems to fit that : The changing line thing is the most confusing thing to me - cause i did see in some place that the situation is too stable and fixed so its good to change it (which is opposite of general judgment) ... but if that was the case than why would that changing line lead to an even more "fixed" situation (hex 2) ? I guess when asking 2 point question that includes also a question about my current level was for several reasons , to test the accuracy of the reply , to make it easier for me to see as a check point ( because i know my current understanding of the i-ching is very low) and to understand the difference - like hoped maybe first hex would be bad in nature and second really good - and that the changing line would be some hint on what i should do in order to improve my level of understanding (about my situation ... in the past i tried the i ching but didnt have much success with it ,i stopped , than was considering re taking it but someone i adviced with said i-ching might be evil , but he said that without knowing much about it now he read about it and said it is ok ... so now i want go give i-ching another go - and this was my first reading since )

How to find the lower dan tian ? (like really finding the real location and knowing you found it) i seen about some place you just let your awareness "sink" by doing meditation and by that it will automatically lower itself down until when it reaches the lower dan tian level it will "suck it up" or something like that I have an inconsistent meditation practice and thats maybe why i dont get any "achievements" to now but i did start to meditate 12 years ago and did a few meditation retreats ....... and it doesnt seem that it should take years to just find (if someone is looking for it) and if soo would be a shame to spend another 12 years just to find it ...... so maybe i didnt get things right and its not just to meditate and you will find it ? what are some ways to find it ? how to find it ? any detail someone wants to add on the topic is welcomed

I am trying to find my lost ID ... i am not sure how to intperet this results ... im looking for hints as to were my ID might be , i asked the yijing : "where is my ID?" and got : hex 61 with changing lines in second fith and six (2,5,6) locations >> this changes to hex 24 (hidden hexegram is 27) dont need of course for someone to tell me the exact location of my id of course - but maybe some hints some guess to were it might be near to based on this results

I asked the yi-jing in 3 different times the next questions (its interesting that i got hexagram 20 in two of the questions - and 23 as hidden in them and in one the first changing line and the last one in another ) : * Some weeks ago i asked "what is the next step i need to do in life?" (thinking should i do more of what i do , to stop what i do , to do more of it , to change it , to add something new i never tried etc) and i got hex 11 changing line in the second place ... which changes to hex 36 (and hidden hexagram is 54) * Also asked back than "what i should do about my X training ?" (asking about a specific practice i do (dont want to write name of that practice to not effect answers with opinions on that practice ) and i got hex 20 with chageing line in the first ... which changes to hex 42 (hidden hex is 23) * Today i asked again "what is the next step i need to do in life?" and i got hex 20 with chageing line in the last ... which changes to hex 8 (hidden hex is 23) ** I dont know how to interpret this results - i wonder what other people see here ( no need to have an opinon about them all even if its about one hex origianl or hidden or a changing line , is good as well )

Did a solid read (was in a good mind state) with the yijing and asked "what i should do about the noise situation with my neighbors? " The results i got were : Hexagram 44 with changing lines of : 6 in the first ..... 9 in the second .... and 9 in the fourth Changing to hexagram 37 (hidden hexagram is 1) How do you interpret this ?

@Apech well if it was an answer to my previous question than first hex and its line would been very clear and obvious but for this question its not the clearest : modesty maybe means online is good cause its done with modest means compared to what it takes to devinate in the "real world" ? on the changing hex it says stuff like " this pushing upward is associated with effort, " and the way damo teaches to do i ching takes more effort .... on the other hand i see also " The pushing upward is made possible not by violence but by modesty and adaptability. " ... and maybe modesty is using the online one ?

I asked the yi-jing - what i should do next in my life (like whats my next move (not in going to bathroom but bigger ones) whats the direction ? and the results were 11 with changing line in the second (changing nine) ........ which changes to a 36 and the hidden hexagram is 54 im dont know how to interpret it at all

@Apech i have also asked the online i ching now "Should i use online i ching or only the i ching the way damo says ? " i got hex 15 ... with a changing six in the second ................ and it changes to hex 46 (i dont practice neigong with damo any more just for the record (not cause his a badteacher or anything like that of course)

also would like to add a remark that damo mitchell gives specific reasons for many of the stuff done - like using the yarrow stalks is not something of ritual only or getting into a meditation mode but also that the its something like it harms the results accuracy to use coins - and for example the incense sticks are for cleansing the room - and kept burning to keep the energy moving in the room during the deviation i would love to ignore all this - i defintly for example do not like the smell of the incense sticks sticking to my clothes etc ... i can think of a milion different stuff if its just about having a ritual but it seems its more than that in many of the stuff he says should be done

Thanks for replies i did now an online reading - in a website you put a link to in another post - i think damo mitchell is apposed to online i ching as much as coins .... and this website has it done via coin method at that ... but anyway i asked a similar question there - "am i advancing the right way with what im doing now ? " (while now doing small actions to imrpove nothing big) and got hexagram 55 which change to 21 the changing lines are 9 in the third and 6 at the top it seems again that 55 is great just like 11 ... and by this i see it as i am in a great direction , correct ? than 9 in the third also seems good and means im in a good path , correct ? 6 at the top seems it might be bad though no ? about 21 not sure how to interrupt it : ( specifically the bold part which seems to talk about stronger measures - which seems the opposite of slow progress (unlike "biting through" which seems to fit slow steady progress) )

@Apech Thanks good and helpful reply - so will further say (my main issue now from below is how to apply 36 to my life - all the rest are mini bonus thoughts that can be ignored ) : What you said about 11 and changing line - seems to make good sense and fit my situation - and my conclusion i got to now (After asking) by myeslf as well without connection to the i ching results .... though isnt that advice holding for most people anyway (taking a balanced approach and doing small tasks ) ? The changing hex 36 is hard to interpret for me - cause if i look at it myself i would think : 11 seems a good hex and from that it changes to hidden brilliance which doesnt seem as good - so i would think my good situation will change into a future bad one and even after reading what you read about 36 im not sure what it means for my life - how to apply it - talking about : maybe i can interpret it as not trying to change my relationship with my family or try to help them and just focus on meditation and other spirtual stuff - but not sure at all you dont look at hidden hexagram ? i ching is always right... but not always the most accurate ? damo mitchell way of doing it demands a good amount of effort - which this time i didnt do like lighting incense or meditating before (but still i had ok concentration so i see it as a good reading even if not best)

If i am 100% fully content with the peresent moment accepting whatever is ......... why would i do anything ?

@wstein again i started to ponder this whole concept again of accepting what is , as some sort of major way of life , and as a major practice by itself , and was wondering if you have any advice about how to reach this state of fully expressing my inner nature ?

I asked : "did the stretches i did up until now did me good ? should i get back to doing stretches ? how ? " (that was the phrasing what i had in mind when asking is : " did the stretches i did up to now in life have done my health good (or bad) ? should i get back to doing stretches (i stopped doing it for some days) ? how should i do them (aka any advice on how to conduct them yijing) ? ) I got : hexagram 64 with sixth (changing yin) in the first and nine (changing yang) in the fourth ........... so hexagram change to 41 and the secret hexagram is 63 can you help me interpert this , i am not sure i get what it says at the end - for example : did stretching up to now in my life did good to my health or not ? and should i return to doing stretching ?

I also would want to emphasize i am only looking for replies with interpretations for the yi jing results that i posted above and not for replies about how to solve this issue i have ("see a doctor/teacher" , "practice this and dont practice this", "take it easy" etc) without connection to the yi jing results

I got some strong back pain from a system i practiced which had 3 physical parts to it (dantian gong , wuji stance, stretching) , so i stopped all i do , and started to do Yijin divinations to check what i should start doing again and what not to return to - and considering adding some new meditative non physical parts of that system i didnt do before - the questions i asked (not i order i asked) and the results : 1 ."Did the stretches i did up until now did me good ? should i get back to doing stretches ? how ?" Hexagram: 64 , Changing lines (1,4) -> Result 41 Hidden 63 after been told the above is not good cause its a yes/no type changed it into : 2 . "What is the impact of the stretches i did up to know on my health ? " H : 61 C : (3,5,6) R : 11 Hid :37 3 ."What is the effect of the WUJI stance i did on my health ? and what i should do about it ?" H : 64 C : (2,3,4) R : 52 Hid :63 4 . "What effect did lower dantian work had on my spine ? if i return to it what effect will it have on my spine?" H : 56 C : (2,3,6) R : 40 Hid : 28 5 ."What was the effect of the system i practiced on my health ?" H : 28 C : (3) R : 47 Hid : 1 6 . "What changes i need to do in my practice for my spine ?" H : 24 C : (1) R : 2 Hid : 2 *** i am not sure at all how to interpret this cause im new to yijing .... if someone can help this can be great , not expecting someone to reply to all - even if just replying to one divination result it can be great help