old3bob

right, don't know much about it but it looks messy in picture below. Wonder if a earth ear, nose and throat specialist could help this guy?

Thank you Mark, that was finely written and informative! "The fundamental point sits zazen, and what is that other than this consciousness, right here?" Can seem like light years away but is always right under our noses, so to speak...

who is supplying the ectoplasm, and is it organic non-gmo?

not so for some schools...

in non-dualism ok but not in dualism...with some schools in complete denial of dualism which is not my cup of tea.

which is what i more or less implied....yes?

I'd say as long as there is time and space and vast multitudes of various emanations repeating in endless cycles, then there is also dharma and adharma going on. I also like that saying along the lines of : "samsara properly understood is nirvana"

ok, true mystics are not limited to the 100% dualistic orthodox Bible interpretations via its text or other such teachings. In fact some outspoken or otherwise mystics have been murdered by "orthodox" forces over the years.

if dharma is delusion then we're in nihilistic like trouble...or such trouble is ready to take over anytime, anywhere with anyone. I prefer to put unanswered questions on an agnostic like shelf where they don't have to immediately be black or white. Btw, some tricksters (obvious or not) can also be taken as teachers.

if dharma is delusion then we're in nihilistic like trouble...or such trouble is ready to take over anytime, anywhere with anyone. I prefer to put unanswered questions on an agnostic like shelf where they don't have to immediately be black or white. Btw, some tricksters (obvious or not) can also be taken as teachers.

Haribol, to me your quotes are strangely located after the Nataraja image and quote? FYI I did bring up the Bible one about not to worry earlier. Btw, dualistic orthodox Abrahamic religion's per the Bible and other Abrahamic related teachings will never cross the bridge to non-dualism. Agreed?

Where and when does evolution take place? Only in times and spaces, yes? Earlier we talked about human identity as passing and apparent, thus would you agree same is taking place or evolving in times and spaces... anyway I'm not saying a passing and apparent identity can be equated to the Self but that in unwinding a passing and apparent identity (which is noble work and purposeful to find freedom) then what is left or what was always there, thus free of being bound in times and spaces or limited to a particular form, whether it be as a human or a god? I'd say that That is ultimately realized as Truest identity.

Although I'd say time and space in time and space realms (which vary) apply and thus should not be written off as some kind of delusion.

and I'd say such a "sudden" which is now, is not really of time or on a time line.... (thus not strictly bound in ways that we might think)

That's evolution, yes? In Hinduism in general the Self does not evolve and knows the Self by the Self. (with a pure mind being a great and important tool and preparation but not the Self, nor can mind cross the barrier of things which it is part of to reach or know the Self)