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Everything posted by old3bob
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I was once on a site with a bunch of new age physic's and was not good enough for their groupies, thus got immediately kicked off after I posted what I thought was hardly disruptive....
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one could say the math of karma is perfect, although at times we'd like to help it along or see it speed up for certain people Btw. there seems to be advanced instant karma and slower long haul like karma taking place over extended periods, with both having advantages and disadvantages depending on how one can handle them. and what could one say about the karmic math of enlightenment or awakening with greater or lessor degrees of karma in force. Maybe that idea could be related to schools like Pure land Buddhism where lessor karma would be in effect? And besides earning merit by design there is also Grace that is far beyond the workings of regular karmic math with a computation superseding human ability.
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i don't have a problem with duality and or evolution that is part of non-duality and or the non-evolutionary.
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eternity of all time and space can't be of a line that starts, extends and then ends somewhere, or in thinking that from here on out we have eternity. So to me its pretty safe to say that only cycles are eternal...the cosmic cycle for the physical universe and all its variations of energy is said to be around 14+ billion earth years before it returns (to a singularity) and then starts all over again with a big bang - not sure if or how that might apply to generally unknown realms? Anyway some want to be around as a particular someone or particular immortal for "all eternity" yet even eternity isn't around for all eternity except in cycles. So that makes me wonder about the goals of some "immortals" that we hear of who at best can only exist in a period of a cosmic cycle (or perhaps much longer during the lifetime of Lord Brahma?) before it ends and then begins all over again, thus only the Great Tao-remains as the source of cycles - while particular beings and worlds have to "return". And of course there are many takes on this subject and many of them don't agree... that which was said above is different from an "eternal moment" which is beyond the time and space limits of a cosmic cycle or of a lesser cycle of time and space.
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well same is developed in temples all over the world that become very charged up by their devotee's work and devotion along with many such chosen places also benefitting from positive earth (mountain, ocean, forest, desert, etc.) energies along with the Devas (and higher) that work to harmonize from their world to this world in such places. Btw., so called "Idol worship" is probably about 100% misunderstood and thus rejected by Abrahamic religions yet certain statues or idols are used for subtle beings to link up with and make connection in this world...I don't know a lot about that or have much experience with it but it is not stretch at all to me. Btw, I'd add that certain methods that are used for good can be inverted and corrupted for evils sake, thus places for evil and evil beings to work are also around. (the lower astral trying to hijack and invade here which is protected and guarded against by forces for good)
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I'm biased more towards the Saivite teachings than Vishnuism, thus there is that famous saying, "Shiva destroyer of worlds" which I think could better be put as absorber of worlds which has a different connotation altogether. Anyway Lord Brahma/creator is recognized as having the following time periods in most or all of Hinduism: "A month of Brahma contains thirty such days and nights, or 259.2 billion years. According to the Mahabharata, 12 months of Brahma (=360 days) constitute his year, and 100 such years his life called a maha-kalpa (311.04 trillion years or 36,000 kalpa + 36,000 pralaya)". Which is obviously far longer than that which modern science proposes for cosmic cycles of a singularity and then a big bang that lasts for around 14 billion years. (so i'll edit my first post to include this much longer time period) "Then such cycles as you mention may be like 'mere' heartbeats to him .... breaths in and out", Mr. O. of the fourth way submitted some good charts along these lines of cosmological comparisons. (an interesting system to me besides some of the troubles it has had with false teachers) People do speak of multi-verses if that is what you mean but I have not gotten into those postulations, which may be fact for some.
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pulled the descriptions below off the internet - of which there are more variations depending on the school; one might also look in the old and new testaments where golden being or something like man of gold is pointed to or mentioned...(thus and apparently a "golden immortal" but in a different religious context) "Immortals are separated into Five Ranks, namely Human Immortals [ren xian人仙], Heavenly Immortals [tian xian天仙] Immortals, Spirit Immortals [shen xian神仙] , Earthly Immortals [di xian地仙] and Ghost Immortals [gui xian鬼仙].Aug 2, 2019" btw, the founder of Akido mentions the Golden Being in a revelation he had, and there are many other accounts over the ages with different peoples, for instance the Golden Buddha mentioned and depicted in some of their scripture and or art, and similar pointers and or accounts can also be found in Hinduism. Btw, here is very short clip from Taoism: "The Twelve Golden Immortals, also known as the Twelve Golden Immortals of Kunlun, are the collective name for the twelve disciples of Yuanshi Tianzun of Yuxu Palace in the Chinese classical novel "The Story of Fengshen ". It is the highest immortal in the Taoist immortal level."