old3bob

so what is your sun and moon sign, also your ascendant, oh I knew that just by looking at you and us talking for a few minutes, tough luck but we are not compatible.... you stinging double Scorpio. (but at least I know where you stand)

yea there are multiple interpretations, even including materialistic ones that deny spirituality, and which can be debated forever, but the import is there if one is fortunate enough to have to come upon understanding.

T.T.C. Chapter 21. (not from hollywood or bollywood) "THERE was Something undefined and yet complete in itself, Born before Heaven-and-Earth. Silent and boundless, Standing alone without change, Yet pervading all without fail..." "Tao" can not be destroyed in the human world nor any other, if so then no one would be around to give opinions. (that includes during the Kali yuga with a drastic lessening of dharma in effect if that is what you are getting at?)

A lie (in the context that Tao was destroyed in the human world) is bullshit, which should be obvious to all the "cultivators" here?

if "Tao in the human world was destroyed" then all would turn to less than dust in an instant, so I call bullshit on such a cynical proclamation.

most cats have nine lives but don't howl at the moon

a higher level of speculation makes for a higher level of speculationitiss... (so maybe, perhaps, could be, in time we will see, obviously UFO's are proven but not those little grey guys, at least to 99.99% of us)

we've talked about the human aspect already, but that is not about what I also mentioned...

true, along with some other things like crystals.

Stunning discovery: First evidence of a self-healing metal Story by Andrei Ionescu • 2h ago Stunning discovery: First evidence of a self-healing metal© Provided by Earth " A team of scientists from Sandia National Laboratories and Texas A&M University has recently witnessed for the first time a stunning phenomenon: pieces of metal cracking, then fusing back together without any human intervention. If this amazing phenomenon can be harnessed, it could give rise to an engineering revolution in which self-healing bridges, engines, or airplanes could reverse damage caused by wear and tear and thus become safer and longer-lasting. "This was absolutely stunning to watch first-hand," said Brad Boyce, a materials scientist at Sandia. "What we have confirmed is that metals have their own intrinsic, natural ability to heal themselves, at least in the case of fatigue damage at the nanoscale." Tiny fractures, big problems Fatigue damage is one of the main ways through which machine wear out and eventually break. From repeated stress or motion, microscopic cracks emerge and grow over time, ultimately leading to the complete failure of the device. The fissure the researchers saw disappear in the current study was one of these tiny (measured in nanometers) but consequential fractures...."

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Alright, rocking away,

like bodies of light which are the actual souls...those bodies are woven of light. (although souls are still evolving while "God" is not) Btw, drawing of Masters, Saints, Buddha's, gods, goddess, Angels, etc. who are sitting upon beautiful lit up lotus are actual depictions of very advanced souls.

countless quadrillions x quadrillions of souls are created in the image of "God" and inhabit all the realms as unique beings, I'd say it is wrong to make some kind of new age or old age (?) abstraction that those quadrillions do not exist which would be like saying the countless rays of countless suns do not exist, although or even though none of us would exist without the One source of all. (for one example, such is well pointed out in the Tao Teh Ching via The Tao, The One, The Two, The Three, etc. and on to the Ten Thousand)

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btw where did you get that old clip and were you there?

that's a good article but still not applicable to types of non-human beings who do not have human egos to be dealt with....

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"When enlightenment or self realization is touted as the experience of limitless bliss, it is usually believed that the bliss of the self is superior to the transitory bliss encountered in daily life. But all experiences of bliss, whether they are born of sensory experience, the discovery of some unknown object or spiritual practice like meditation, are the fullness and limitlessness of the self reflecting in the body-mind. The bliss belongs neither to the self nor to the body-mind. It belongs to the relationship between them." that sounds like an aspect and factor which can be agreed upon...but I'd comment that "Bliss" (with the big B ) is an integral and always connected part of Self without there being dependence on an external relationship in some form of duality to be. (which granted is something that does come into manifestation)

hopefully the Hindu Gentlemen in the video would forgive me for borrowing their impressive clip for something different ? so if we pretend/interject for a moment that they are arguing back and forth with their drums does it remind you of anyone we know? well it reminds me of those who are good sports, which may not be listed in the teachings per-se but is something not to be ignored.

"We assume that each of us is a self, that there is an entity called “me.” The self is just another misunderstanding, however. We generally manufacture a notion of self, which feels like a solid entity. We are conditioned to view this notion as consistent and real... But Siddhartha realized that there is no independent entity that qualifies as the self to be found anywhere, either inside or outside the body. Like the optical illusion of a fire ring, the self is illusory. It is a fallacy, fundamentally flawed and ultimately non-existent. The self is assembled, doesn’t exist independently, and is susceptible to change... At the moment that Siddhartha found no self, he also found no inherently existing evil—only ignorance. Specifically, he contemplated the ignorance of creating a label of “self,” pasting it on a totally baseless assembled phenomenon, imputing its importance, and agonizing to protect it... Probably the biggest discovery in human history was Siddhartha’s realization that the self does not exist independently, that it is a mere label, and therefore that clinging to it is ignorance. - Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche" Such sayings are misleading at best, when the Self has not revealed it-Self.

maybe a better term would be un-conscience-ness, for evil is not unconscious per-se, more like willfully diabolical, (etc.) that is unless the term consciousness is solely equated with "natural" goodness...

"Therefore… be ye lamps unto yourselves. Be ye a refuge unto yourselves. Betake yourselves to no external refuge. Hold fast to the Truth as a lamp. Hold fast as a refuge to the Truth. Look not for refuge to any one besides yourselves. And how… is (one) to be a lamp unto (oneself), a refuge unto (oneself), betaking (oneself) to no external refuge, holding fast to the Truth as a lamp, holding fast as a refuge to the Truth, looking not for refuge to any one besides (oneself)?" "and how", how about TTC Chapter 21: "IT lies in the nature of Grand Virtue To follow the Tao and the Tao alone. Now what is the Tao? It is Something elusive and evasive. Evasive and elusive! And yet It contains within Itself a Form. Elusive and evasive! And yet It contains within Itself a Substance. Shadowy and dim! And yet It contains within Itself a Core of Vitality. The Core of Vitality is very real, It contains within Itself an unfailing Sincerity. Throughout the ages Its Name has been preserved In order to recall the Beginning of all things". How do I know the ways of all things at the Beginning? By what is within me."

so if someone has "bones of steel" after using certain methods what could they then be able to do because of it - should answer that question...