old3bob

(eating crow in the context meant is recognizing one's mistake or one's egotistic fault)

if one is hungry enough for the truth and honest enough to pursue it then eating crow if need be won't stop them...

playing the game of chess can be quite revealing of our ego's, in some cases it can be played in an artistic way but it is mostly played as several battles that try to culminate in winning the war... and loosing such a war to a 12 year old kid can give rise to or reveal all sorts of egoic convolutions.

eating crow does not taste very good ;-)

(I'd say not warm and fuzzy if or when we go astray) "Mahākāla is a deity common to Hinduism and Tantric Buddhism.[1] In Buddhism, Mahākāla is regarded as the sacred dharmapala. While in Hinduism, Mahākāla is a fierce manifestation of Shiva.[1] and is the consort of the goddess Mahākālī; he most prominently appears in the Kalikula sect of Shaktism.[2][3][4] Mahākāla also appears as a protector deity known as a dharmapala in Vajrayana, Chinese Esoteric, and Tibetan Buddhism[1] (see Citipati), and also in the Chàn and Shingon traditions. He is known as Dàhēitiān and Daaih'hāktīn (大黑天) in Mandarin and Cantonese, Daeheukcheon (대흑천) in Korean, Đại Hắc Thiên in Vietnamese, and Daikokuten (大黒天) in Japanese."

One could say representations, and one could also say real beings or real souls thus not just symbolic like archetypes if that is what you meant?

Btw. many Hindu, Buddhist and other ways depict heavenly beings that they have seen via 3rd eye vision in this way which I can also give witness of. Also as you probably already know when Ida and pingala merge it results in a sushamna energized halo/circuit.

Creation, in time & space are not something to destroy or deny, but something to be free in...

hmm, just a moment before Dwai's post this came to me...

I'd say Pure Being/Truth/Joy with will/law acting as an aspect of those - which it arises from and follows or in a sense is directed. (by)

"....but feeling freely isn’t a view, it is more visceral than that, closer to rushing water or energy coursing through channels within the body than seeing out through a window...." By Bindi That reminds me of the "woman by the well" in the Bible: When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.” 11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?” 13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” this is an "esoteric" truth and is not limited by any religion

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since your car crashed and "missed the mark" keep the piss in your pants to yourself.

sorry to hear of your covid condition! Wishing you wellness Apech...

I'd suggest dropping what comes across as unseemly pretense ST

I happen to see you constantly hammering away, although meaning well, and although "the road to hell is (sometimes) paved with good intentions".

right, but if or when points (or certain correlations) are hammered on over and over again, even if not meaning to be forced, they can still have a forcing character to them ime.

I knew that was coming Steve, so put it in the context of 3 to 5 different teachers from greatly varied traditions, some of which do not see eye to eye, all hammering on one student to somehow force understanding of them or their teachings at the same time, that would be an untenable and bad practice... in most anyone's opinion

I'd say that all of these heavy duty and sometimes complex sounding mixtures of various teachings can easily knock one out of their own personal kilter even if such meant well, thus a good teacher wont' do that, as in trying to force someone into understanding or alignment with such.

From a Christian teaching did the thieves crucified with Jesus have to reach his level before they were quickened and raised up?

"You must live in the present, launch yourself on every wave, find your eternity in each moment. Fools stand on their island of opportunities and look toward another land. There is no other land; there is no other life but this." Thoreau "enlightenment" will never come in a future time, it can only be now, thus give unto time what is time's and unto enlightenment what is enlightenment's. (not totally different from the Bible saying of, "So Jesus told them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.”"

"Samadhi for great lengths' of time"....samadhi does not run on a clock.

"someday I'd like to try the eternity trip", what an old buddy of mine once said after which we immediately cracked up. ;-)

crushing doubt, and or hanging by a thread and panicking is related to fear.

with a relative reality/being in its relative realm there is no "illusion", but with a more subtle reality/being a less subtle reality then becomes more or less illusion like... thus we have had tales of advanced beings in the earth realm who with the need have walked through walls, or a god being who can traverse all the realms if they have the need to. (and then we have chapter 43 of the TTC where it says, "...Only Nothing can enter into no space..." Anyway Imo it would be great if some people would quit harping on about illusion.