old3bob

I get it now, E=Mc2, or Empty=Meaning times Cobb salads doubled up...namely one for relatively real bodies and one for the Golden Buddha body.

I ate an abstraction the other day with salad dressing on the side but it left me feeling empty...

I'd say everything from a grain of sand or a neutrino is a level of of reality...

no comprende

an all seeing eye...., best to have one's shit together before that eye falls upon us.

the historic Buddha (saw) pointed out the assembly of subtle beings (normally invisible to most) before his passing so he apparently was not stuck on denying relative realities, which it seems some people are?

From the Mundaka-Upanishad: Third Mundaka, Second Khanda 3. That Self cannot be gained by the Veda, nor by understanding, nor by much learning. He whom the Self chooses, by him the Self can be gained. The Self chooses him (his body) as his own.

thus the Self knows that the self is a passing thing but also a tool for use.

talk about missing the implied for the literal...

the Upanishads do not entertain the idea of being "accident prone" to enlightenment although imo the idea has certain validity if in the sense of of preparation, but still one can prepare until the cows come home but it is The Self that chooses the Self, and not by any culmination of "accidents".

btw, there is that saying, "he is a good egg" , but woe unto the "bad egg".

concerning the thread title, those three have some important common ground (as all of us human beings also do) but after that are they are very different. (even radically so)

that reminds me of a song: "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail..."

not really, but apparently for you... since pounding on nails is apparently your bag

from an ultimate perspective some would say yes, although covered over by very, very dark adharmic karmas! (and also tuned into or acting from the chakras below the root as described in Hinduism)