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So what happens if someone were to walk into a very busy street full of people and absorb all their energy could he fill his dantien in 5 minutes? haha

I learned that in order to "activate" the dantien you must have the mingmen in line with the dantien in a standing pose when these are in line horizontally, its called Damai or the meridian band that activates the dantien. And when you have the "girdle" or band there then the dantien will open naturally and you will be ready to cultivate. Does this sound right to you guys, and if so do you need to always have this band there when sitting too? or after it's activated there's no need to focus on the mingmen anymore?

Look guys, i will stop trying to do mo pai. I have been doing cultivation practices for nearly 3 years and the video is right only minute power comes of it if the dantien is not activated, also to Zork i know that it's "bad" to tell a random person on the internet how to do this, but all i want to do is heal others and show close friends that they shouldn't be simple minded. So PLEASE if anyone knows how to simply just activate the dantien just tell me. I wont just go around showing off and, telling every Joe, and John how to do it i respect that its a secret knowledge passed down from master to student, but if you have any empathy for all the wasted time most of the ambitious western students give in any day to learn this please respond.

Can someone please explain or if they had a true master, show me the technique of actually activating the dan tien like he explained in the video. I honestly had no idea that this was the case please explain

So do you think that the "condensing" in level 2 is just a conversion to jing because in taiji you "condense" the chi it becomes a vibration like current or, electric like. And when the chi turns to jing which is physical maybe then if a MP practitioner had all of that jing in one area plausibly, it could appear as a lump.

What if Chang made Jim do this so that he would still be motivated to train to get actual results, i mean like think of it like this. Something that requires many years of straight discipline wouldn't you be more motivated seeing results and knowing that your not wasting your life on something empty, or would you rather have more students drop out because they want to see some kind of action already. The times where students would be so desperate to learn by waiting days by their masters doors is gone, this is a new generation and unless you want the art to die out completely like John foresaw, maybe this parlor trick is necessary would you beg to differ?

GSmaster if you can do all of these things why not make a video and show it to all of us. And also starjumper you said you know a guy who has more power than JOHN CHANG himself then please tell us his technique and how in the world he got more power than him.

And what makes you think that? Who is this in the photograph is this you?

Instead of arguing all the time on this forum members should do this 1) train all the time and see if YOU ever get like John Chang then have scientist test you and tell the world that we don't have to do dangerous practices for some power. Or 2) Beg and please a Indonesian student who is currently still practicing mo pai, probably by actually taking a trip to Indonesia and learn from him and then take pictures, and educate us all on the proper way to do it so we and especially GSmaster has nothing else to say about how fake the instructions are. Thank you.

Megamind are you okay with posting the instructions on this forum or should I email you?

Megamind hey if you know how to do mopai PLEASE send me real instructions or something explain, and everyone is just contradicting each other some say that mopai is fake because of Jim not being a verified teacher, and some are saying he is if it is true that you learned from Jim himself, and since we all have seen that Jim has had actual progress with this please share your knowledge.

Hey guys this is a wild wild, idea being thrown out there I was reading mo pai warning and instructions and GSmaster commented on Megamind on how breathing sublimation+reverse breathing+straining = cancer, and I thought what if somehow you use your energy overtime to make the body very resistant and strong so then you can cultivate as much as you want in the dantien or your head or whatever the hell you want, and NOT get cancer from it.

Haha yes GSmaster I have warm clothing but my reasoning for, this is just that it is amazing to feel like you don't NEED any warm clothing and how you can for whatever reason if fate had it you were stranded like if you climbed Mt. Everest and you have a pileup of people and the gear you bought was complete rubbish, and the frost is setting in I think i rather have this trick up my sleeve. Just a hypothetical situation.

Anybody else when they exercise breath into the spot that hurts then the area feels really energized, especially after a run it feels blissful.

Earl Grey what form of cultivation do you practice MCO, Zhan Zhuang etc.

Earl Grey Just to be clear you mean that level 2 is causing long-damage to myself not level 1 correct because that's just basic neigong?

well I wanted learn proper tummo because it as we all know that it is currently winter, and i don't like meditating inside so i just wanted to heat up my body whilst cultivating energy at the same time. And as for being a Idiot i don't believe that level 2b are the only real practices out there. Gmaster wouldn't you also believe that every chigong or neigong method is similar in a way, I know everybody on this forum thinks that the instructions form Jim are stolen and incorrect but its still gathering power and that's important to me. Somehow this "stolen and incorrect instructions" are working for me and is getting results, sadly Jim McMillan and the bias Indonesian students towards westerners are and the only ones who know about the original Mo Pai. P.S NOT TRYING TO START WAR ON THIS FORUM, please just give your feedback in a positive way thank you.

Thanks for your feedback but personally I have done abdominal breathing for about 2 years and a half and I have to say that for whatever reason reverse breathing feels more calming and relaxing for me and it definitely gives me more results of energy levels than the normal abdominal breathing. Also does anybody know how to do proper tummo meditation like the actual Tibetan one, and can someone please send me a link for that

I have another question does anybody on here do reverse breathing on any form like zhan Zhang for example or should I only do abdominal breathing

Thank you Zork for responding i do have to agree i felt bad after my mother said that it hurt i had no idea that my energy had gotten that powerful i even stood 5 feet back so that it wouldn't be that bad but the main reason was to see if my energy was actually strong enough to be felt by another person with distance.

how long i have been practicing Zhan Zhuang if so about 3 months in total i have been doing energy cultivation for about 2 years but i have noticed that full lotus cultivates the energy faster than any standing pose i have done. Also Earl Grey what do you recommend i practice to get similar results of mo pai if any.

Do you think that it is possible to find anybody who has any real instructions to do it, like the instructions online i heard that the so called level 1 that's online is just basic neigong right? and level 2 may cause some injury but if you think about it the analogy of compressing energy is like tai chi where they condense energy in the bones,mo pai is basically the same except where the energy is condensed, is in the dantien. To be honest i don't really care to master the other levels of mo pai just recently i have read the "seeking the master of mo pai" and where Jim explained how he knocked down the books, and pushed the glass. And i used he same method of dropping the breath into the dantien and put my hand out and i had my mother standing 5 feet away and to raise her hand up to mine and before I could even try to pull her hand with chi she told me to stop because she said her hand was getting very hot and that a electricity feeling shot up her arm to her ear and stung. So i guess it works but i want to hear your opinions on it so thank you

Hello all I, have been training everyday to hold a full Lotus position which i now know to be able to cultivate more energy. And while I practice to hold the Lotus i would do zhan zhuang after and I can really feel the breath accumulate and it gets very warm in the dantien i know this might start some controversy, but i was also training to practice mo pai and if anyone could help with that it would be very beneficial to my training.

Hello I'm new ready to begin a spiritual journey; )