ReturnDragon

So, I am really enlightened. The ancient version of Qigong is to breathe energy from the air; and The modern version of Qigong has nothing to do with deep breathing. How did I get into this kind of predicament? No wonder I couldn't find a good teacher. Perhaps I go find a good master to repeat the same thing for me.

Some people thought this is a myth; and they don't believe that special breathing technique has anything to do with Qigong or Taiji. After few years of practice, they were still wondering why wasn't there any biological nor physiological change in the body. For those who do believe it is not a myth. They have already felt the changes in few months. Such as, the breathing is deeper than before, balance better by reacting quicker to a fall. FYI This was just happened last week after class. I was very pleased to hear that from a lady, in the senior center, where I had taught Taiji for 5 to 6 years. Another lady with a back pain is a fast learner, she remembers the moves by seeing them few times. She was only attended the class for few months and told me that she can move her back much better now. Some of the back pain are gone. I had taught all the seniors how to breathe during the Taiji movements. I was surprised they are well balanced standing with one leg for few seconds. Their body weren't even moved nor tilted but steady as a rock. BTW The people in the class come and go. Sorry to say, the some people didn't follow the breathing advice had lost interest and left.

氣沈丹田 Sink chi to dantien It has two interpretations, most people translated as: 1. Sink the energy to the dantien The notion was breathe energy from the air and sunken it down to the belly. Some interpreted as: 2. Sink the breath to the dantien. This notion was when someone took a deep breath with the belly fully expanded. Notion no. 1 seems like a myth. It is because how do we know that we are breathing energy from this air? We are actually breathing oxygen and other impurities in the air. Notion no. 2 is more realistic. That is exactly what is happening when we take a deep breath. The belly is fully expanded. It gives us a feeling like the breath was really deep into the belly. That is why sometimes, it was referred as belly breathing. Do we actually breathe with the belly. Of course not, it is only a description of the feeling for deep breathing. We do feel the energy in the body, but it is not from the air. It is the energy that was generated from the muscle cells. For those who are interested, one might find that cell respiration is a very interesting subject.

Neidan(内丹), internal refinery process or internal pill This is the original Chinese Taoist definition of Neidan(内丹) 内丹是以阴阳变化丶天人合一思想为指导， 以人体为鼎炉，精气神为药物， 注重周天火候炼药，而在体内凝练结丹的修习 The internal refinery process is based on the yi-yang transformation. It is a notion of integration of human and nature as a guidance. It used the body as a cauldron, 精气神(jing-chi-shen) as the medical ingredients. It was devoted in using the cosmic orbit procedure for the refinement with the right temperature. Thus it is a practice which was done inside the body, virtually, to make the pill.

Of course, but I had the old concepts resonant with modern science and reasoning. Instead of believing the old myths blindly.

Don't worry, my friend. I had no problem with that. Indeed, it was quite amusing.

I was trying to say how I felt inside me when I practice Qigong; no body listens is because they have already made up their minds. FYI I felt that my breathing was deep like sink chi to the dantien. It seems to me people talked about that but not getting the meaning across. The so called Fragrant Qigong, is like doing some slow exercises. It will have some health benefits. The slow movements are similar to practice Taiji if the breathing was emphasized. This has something to do with muscle contraction. I felt my strength from the energy that was generated from the muscle cells. Any slow muscle exercise does have some health benefits besides whatever you want to call the exercise. The only thing that bothers me is the claim of having a fragrant during practice.

Ok! Despite to all the rumor and misinformation. The full name for "香功" is "芳香智悟功". It was never classified as Chi Kung(Qigong) because it was not emphasized on breathing.

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During exercise or performing QiGong we can increase the amount of oxygen intake. Please pay close attention to the total lung capacity reading. Total lung capacity is the total amount of air that the lungs can hold after the biggest possible breath in. The average total lung capacity is about 6 litres (6000 ml). That tells us when we practice Qigong, the amount of oxygen increased more than normal. Next, we will investigate what the body will do with the ample of oxygen. Ref: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/ztkr82p/revision/2

In that case, you must point that out to me in your video by the time frame. Please!

...but it is very impressive though!

I understand that is your terminology you had learned from your master.

Yes, it is about borrow the power of the opponent. As long the opponent is holding on you, you may borrow his power to aid you but against him. However, if the opponent let go of you, then, you cannot borrow his power. In Taiji, it is called "借力打力", borrow power to counteract the same opposing force.

Qigong is involved with breathing: 1. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-omr-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=omr&p=qigong+breathing+techniques#id=15&vid=6ed7f1386698231710ae1032ead59161&action=view 2. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-omr-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=omr& p=qigong+breathing+techniques#id=40&vid=7ea354d2e6e62a5a19b0dcf43438654e&action=view 3. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-omr-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=omr&p=qigong+breathing+techniques#id=320&vid=e6743715a011e442419252499e93a7e9&action=view

Let's start with Qigong. This is only the beginning. I want to introduce and emphasize the significance of breathing in Qigong with the article below. In other words, Qigong is deeply involved with breathing. We should investigate the benefits of some breathing methods. So, I might conclude that one cannot deny Qigong is not all about breathing. Ref: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31853512

You reacted too soooooon.

All this energy talks are from the old Chinese Taoist myths. Our muscles moved by the control of the brain. The brain issue a signal which is called the "action potential" to the muscle to contract. As long the signals are continuously sending, the muscle will remain contracted. The muscle contraction requires energy; and this energy is ATP which is generated by the mitochondria in the body cells. The ATP collapse as soon the muscle contraction stops. Energy is not from thin air. It was the mitochondria in the body cells use oxygen to decompose the glucose to produce ATP energy. Ref: https://www.getbodysmart.com/muscle-contraction/excitation-contraction-coupling

This is the oldest Chinese Taoist myth was stuck in my head for a long time. However, it was puzzling me for half of my life. To investigate, we must start with an opened mind and disregard with everything that we had read. Then, use the modern science as our source of information. The key words, here, are breathing and Qi. Let's stay away from Qi for now and concentrate on the breathing. What is the source in the air which we need to survive every second and minute? My answer is oxygen. Don't you thinking so?

I am not sure whatever that means! However, we may ended up with one of the four possibilities. 1. Weak mind and weak body. 2. Weak mind but strong body. 3. Strong mind but weak body. 4. Strong mind and strong body. Which one would you like to prefer?

two methods.... The nature of Xing is to limited to mind; The nature of Ming is limited to body. Quote from an ancient Taoist grand master: 王重陽(Huang Zhong Yang): "Xing and Ming must be cultivated at the same time and they cannot be separated." Ref: http://zh.daoinfo.org/w/index.php?title=性命雙修&variant=zh-tw

OK, I got it. hua Jin is 化勁 able to sense is tingjin(聽勁). access energetics is 借力 (borrow strength)

That is beyond my comprehensive level.

One's body weight may be acted as the full physical force.

Please don't get me wrong. I see lots of jin(energy) in you, you must have been practiced very long time. Even though, we don't speak the same Taiji language, but you are doing the same thing as other Taiji players.