Salvijus

If you wish to stay on bad terms just say so. I will accept. I was only offering to end this on good terms for the best of all us. But it's a your free choice.

No no. Calling me names and then creating a small glee club to roast me. That was done out of ego. That was low. And for the record, if you go back and read everything I wrote here. Not a single comment I made on any group of people, condemning them or saying they are wrong. Barely did even get to asked a question before I got called, confused, bigoted, offencive, troll, projector, hostile, basically an idiot etc. While I barely asked a question lol. But okay. I'm not gonna hold any grudges. I would love to leave this convo without hard feelings. I would appreciate the same from you guys. But if you don't want to it's okay aswell. 🙏

I bet it gives you a lot of joy to gather together with the same despise for a 'troll'. So that you all get to be right in your little glee club. Haha. Classic ego behavior. So lame.

Talk about projection eh.. Okay suit yourself. Good luck to you 🙏

Maybe I do maybe I don't. But what you sayed was still a big joke to me. Was hard not to point it out.

Truth manifests itself very differently than ego manifests itself. Wisdom manifests itself very differenetly than egoic knowledge and cleverness. Love manifests very differently than egoic fear or hate. Trust and faith and perfect certainty manifests itself very differenetly than egoic manipulation, control, insecurity. Perfect peace and sovergnity manifests itself differently than the need for approval and attention. You should be getting the point by now I believe. That's how you can know if somebody is serving their ego or the truth.

You just need to have the last word even if it's something completely irrelevant... Lol Okay you can have it. I will let this one go.

That sounds very noble and compassionate and empathic at first glance. However, you can end up pampering someone's ego that way aswell. You can end up conforming to a group just so you don't upset anyone's apple cart. You will end up losing your authenticity. I would say be yourself, serve only truth. Deny what is of ego. And the intelligence, wisdom and love that you are will know how to respond to every situation or person in highest good for everyone. And if it be that your presence disturbs people, so be it. It's inevitable. Because truth is always perceived as an enemy to the ego. And the world is still mostly ego. In fact if you're not perceived to be at least a little bit outrageous. It might be a sign you have conformed to insanity that the world is.

I think this is a good place for me to end. Thank you for participating in this exchange with me. I believe it was worthwhile for those participating. Thank you again. And tcare Bye 👋 A special good bye to thunder aswell. 🙏 No need to carry hard feelings. It's not healthy. Bye bye yall ✌️

I didn't say transgenderism is a choice. I've sayed how deep an individual wants to question the philosophical/existencial nature of Transgenderism is a choice.

I think it's a personal choice. Some want to dig deep and find the truth of the matter. Others don't care. Others would prefer not to know, for the answer might actually be something they don't want to hear.

Also transgenderism is being justified using intellectual thought system. The validity of the thought system can be questioned imo. And should. If you're genuinely interested in Truth. That's a big if tho.

The question "what is gender" was always deeply philosophical to me. It's unclear whether gender is an existential phenomena or made up mental thing. Even to answer that one, one has to do deep inquiry. And I use inquiry synonymously with philosophy here. Perhaps it would right to say. Transgenderism is both existencial and philosophical exploration.

No no I did not mean that at all. I meant just because a particular experience is good for your growth, or just because a particular experience is part of your souls destiny and karma. Doesn't mean that that particular experience is intelligent or wise thing to do. Or should be endorsed and promoted etc. Alcoholism is just one example that shows how a particular experience while can serve the function of a person's life journey isn't in any way or form intelligent thing to do. There are many other such examples. For the record. I'm not saying trans phylosophy is unintelligent thing to do. To be honest I don't know the answer of how much wisdom there is in that movement. I would only question it, inquire into it. And see where it takes me. My participation in this discussion is a form of group discussion about the logic and validity of trans phylosophy. Would be nice if people didn't take it so personally. Although it's a sensitive topic so I understand the reaction.

Clever answer I would have sayed. "indeed people may need to go through various experiences in life to grow and develop. And those experiences can be very diverse. But should we still consider trans phylosophy valid? Some people may need experience long phase of alcohol abuse. But does that mean being an alcoholic is intelligent thing to do? Definitely being an alcoholic may play a role in somebodies spiritual development but does that mean alcoholism needs to be endorsed and promoted? Etc. "

Defending something that is of shaky foundation, uncertain, and prone to fail under questioning. Hence fear, hence the triggered emotions that you're under threat and boiling blood. Whearas truth, is forever open to be questioned by anything. It is not afraid because its certainty is forever established. The truth has no need to defend itself or be afraid of different opinions. Only ego does that.

Why do you continue to do the very same thing I called childish and called you up on it? You're just shooting yourself in the foot like this.

I made a mistake here. It's possible to have views that are condemning and hateful in nature indeed. This didn't cross my mind yesterday because I was talking about people who get triggered by a different opinion when there's nobody judging them. As if a different opinion is somehow the offence to them. And that sort of reaction usually shows ego at play. Fear at play. Sense of threat and protection of something false inside.

I guess I'm going to wrap this up. Plus I'm going to sleep and I don't want to carry this energy with me. I will end this by saying, I meant no conflict tho I expected this reaction somewhat. Also I'm a total moron, and I love you guys/gals. Sorry thunder. You're cool too. I hope we can be best friends forever Tcare all.

True true. Good thing I never claimed to be enlightened. Phew.. What a relief

Okay, I accept my defeat and I stand corrected But people know the point I was trying to make and get through... (hopefully)

I bet all your wisdom would fly out the window the moment I asked you to back up your observations with actual arguments. Simply labeling somebody with bunch of words has no substance to it. Gosh... So childish.

If what I'm saying is gaslighting to you. Then by your definition all buddhism and every other authentic spiritual group is a giant gaslighting lol. Or maybe what I'm saying is just a simple truth...

In reality there's nothing that is not acceptable. Only ego finds things to be unacceptable. Things that threaten its survival.

"doing offencive things" there is no such thing in existence. People may choose to get offended by some things if it threatens their identity. That's all.