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@Nungali, What are the corresponding Egyptian traditions, practices, concepts to the 6 action-items listed in Chapter 3? If this is an Egyptian mage, I would expect that there are Egyptian concepts which correspond to each of these items. The aspirant writes the book for themself. The aspirant donates to beggars ( in Hebrew tz'dakah ) who are reciting holy-praises. The aspirant religiously / spiritually abstains from work. The aspirant abstains from food and drink for 3 days. Please bring Egyptian examples of these?
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... who was practicing superstitious, idolatrous, Egyptian/Persian magic. He is diabolical because of what he is doing, not because of who he is as a German or as a Jew. This "diabolical one" is contrasted with the AbraMelin. Moving on... From Chapter #3: ( https://sacred-texts.com/grim/abr/abr010.htm ). This is what AbraMelin is doing. It is contrasted with Egyptian magic, or at least, one type of Egyptian magic. The aforesaid ABRAMELIN, knowing the ardent desire which I had to learn, he gave me two manuscript books, very similar in form unto these which I now bequeath unto thee, O Lamech, my son; but very obscure: and he told me to copy them for myself with care, which I did, and carefully examined both the one and the other. And he asked me if I had any money, I answered unto him "Yes". He said unto me that he required ten golden florins, which he must himself, according to the order which the Lord had given unto him, distribute by way of alms among seventy-two poor persons, who were obliged to repeat certain Psalms; 1 and having kept the feast of Saturday, which is the day of the Sabbath, he set out to go to ARACHI, because it was requisite that he should himself distribute the money. And he ordered me to fast for three days, that is to say, the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday following; contenting myself with only a single repast in the day, wherein was to be neither blood nor dead things; 1 also he commanded me to make this commencement with exactness, and not to fail in the least thing, for in order to operate well it is very necessary to begin well, and be instructed me to repeat all the seven 2 psalms of David one single time in these three days; and not to do or practise any servile operation The author must produce a hand written copy, for himself, of two holy-books. Deut 17:18 讜讛讬讛 讻砖讘转讜 注诇 讻住讗 诪诪诇讻转讜 讜讻转讘 诇讜 讗转志诪砖谞讛 讛转讜专讛 讛讝讗转 注诇志住驻专 诪诇驻谞讬 讛讻讛谞讬诐 讛诇讜讬诐變 And it shall be, when he sits upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write for himself a copy of this Torah in a book from that which is before the priests the Levites; The author donates 10 gold florins which are distributed to 72 beggars reciting Psalms This is Ma'asei Merkava. One of the earliest forms of what is now referred to as kabalah. The 72 are 3 angelic chariots, "merkavot" in Hebrew, composed of 24 angels ( technically 12+12 ). 3 are needed because the intent is a petition, an "audience" at the "foot stool" of the almighty which is in a realm referred to as "B'riyah" in Hebrew. It is the "third heaven". The donation of 10 represents all 10 aspects of the individual's soul. These 10 are often referred to as the 10 sefirot. Depending on the school of thought, brining these two together is either called a Yichud, a "unification", or more accurately it would be called a Kiddushin, a "sanctification" in English. The recitation of Psalms are already in process. This is already, in theory, producing a "shefa", an abundant-flow of benevolence and vitality from above. The donation of 10 in gold ( the entirety of the individual's eternal soul ) syncs up the individual's soul with the shefa of the 72. AbraMelin keeps the feast of the Sabbath on Saturday AbraMelin practices Judaism The author is instructed to fast for 3 days This refers to the story of Esther. The author is instructed to recite "the 7 Psalms of David" IIR, there are 7 which begin "L'David". I think, but I'm not sure, these 7 are chosen because of the Lamed. L'David. It's like lightning striking. The author is instructed not to engage in "sevile labor". In Hebrew, this is called "M'lachah". It's the legal term for work prohibited on Sabbath. It is translated as "servile labor".
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You're hyper-fixated on nationality and ethnicity. Those are distractions just as much as being distracted by the fabrication of ritual implements when the book does not direct the reader in that manner at all. The individual's cultural lineage and family heritage are completely irrelevant. If it is Egyptian, please: What is the Egyptian word for an HGA? What is the Egyptian word for a ritual censer? What is the Egyptian word for a ritual lamp? What is the Egyptian word for a ritual where a covenant is made with God? What is the Egyptian ritual which corresponds to burning incense in a bowl after lighting a lamp?
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Let's break this down: "having placed the lighted Charcoal in the Censer, light the lamp also ... Then having put the Perfume in the censer ..." This corresponds to Exodus 30:7-8. It's the consecration of the tabernacle. The "perfume" is incense. That's why charcoal is added to the bowl. 30:7 讜讛拽讟讬专 注诇讬讜 讗讛专谉 拽讟专转 住诪讬诐 讘讘拽专 讘讘拽专 讘讛讬讟讬讘讜 讗转志讛谞专转 讬拽讟讬专谞讛變 And Aaron shall burn on it sweet incense every morning; when he dresses the lamps, he shall burn incense upon it. 30:8 讜讘讛注诇转 讗讛专谉 讗转志讛谞专转 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐 讬拽讟讬专谞讛 拽讟专转 转诪讬讚 诇驻谞讬 讬讛讜讛 诇讚专转讬讻诐變 And when Aaron lights the lamps at evening, he shall burn incense upon it, an everlasting incense before the Lord throughout your generations. The Torah: "He shall burn it when he lights the lamps" The Abramelin: "Put charcoal in the censer; light the lamp; add perfume/incense." That's a clear correspondence. " ... You shall then robe yourself, taking first the White Vestment ... " The white robe is called a kittel, 拽讬讟诇. " ... and over this you shall put on that of Silk and Gold ... " This probably corresponds to the urim v'tumim. " ... then the Girdle ... " The gartel, it's a simple black belt that Jewish men wear during prayer. " ... and upon your head you shall place the Crown ... " Teffilin shel-rosh only, not including the teffilin shel-yad. The translator doesn't know what an "ornament", a "totafos" from Exodus 13, on the head is, so they translate it as crown. " ... and you shall lay the Wand upon the Altar ... " The wand is the "yad", the Torah pointer. " ... Then, having put the Perfume in the Censer ... " It's an incense offering, as stated above. It directly corresponds to Exodus 30. " ... you shall fall on your knees ... " This corresponds to Gen 17:3. God is making a covenant, promising to increase Abraham IF he will walk in the ways of the Lord and be Tamim ( which is often translated as perfect. It's a reference to Noah who is known as a Tzaddik Tam, a "perfect" Tzaddik ) 17:1 讜讬讛讬 讗讘专诐 讘谉志转砖注讬诐 砖谞讛 讜转砖注 砖谞讬诐 讜讬专讗 讬讛讜讛 讗诇志讗讘专诐 讜讬讗诪专 讗诇讬讜 讗谞讬志讗诇 砖讚讬 讛转讛诇讱 诇驻谞讬 讜讛讬讛 转诪讬诐變 And when Abram was ninety nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said to him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be perfect. 17:2 讜讗转谞讛 讘专讬转讬 讘讬谞讬 讜讘讬谞讱 讜讗专讘讛 讗讜转讱 讘诪讗讚 诪讗讚變 And I will make my covenant between me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly. 17:3 讜讬驻诇 讗讘专诐 注诇志驻谞讬讜 讜讬讚讘专 讗转讜 讗诇讛讬诐 诇讗诪专變 And Abram fell on his face; and God talked with him, saying, Establishing a relationship with an HGA is making a covenant.
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The crown is teffiflin shel-rosh. "Totafos". The instructions follow Jewish law. Only the tefilin shel rosh would be put on, because the individual already put on the entire set in the morning, and, it's inappropriate to put them on again. Here is a picture. From the cover of "ohr Ha-seichal" by Rabbi Abulafia whom was one of your sources. It's in a spoiler to save screen space. Notice that the individual in only wearing the head teffilin, not the one on the hand. Again, this is observant of Jewish law.
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There is a page break at that location. See screenshot below: https://sacred-texts.com/grim/abr/abr008.htm
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Briefly: You're saying "Egyptian magic" = "Holy Qabalah"? If so, the author of the book disagrees with you. It contrasts "Egyptian magic" with "Holy Qabalah" as if they are opposites. The Book of Abramelin is anti-Egyptian magic. It describes Egyptian magic as diabolical, idolatrous, and superstitious. Have you read the book? If so, when was the last time you've read it? From the book: ... Who had been corrupted by Egyptian magic. Whether or not he is a Rabbi is irrelevant. The topic of discussion is Egyptian mysticism and magic compared to Judaism. The book is pro-Judaism and anti-Egyptian magic. " ... He did not make use of the Wisdom of the Lord ... " The Rabbi was not practicing Judaism " ... instead ... " What did he do instead? " ... availed himself of certain arts ... " Certain arts? " ... superstitions of infidel and idolatrous nations... " Which ones? " ... derived from the Egyptians, together with images of the Medes and of the Persian ... " The Egyptian together with Persia. Thank you. The author is clearly not in favor of gnostic syncretism, nor Egyptian magic.
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What ever it is, this "wand" would not be "idolatrous", nor "superstitious". See quote above. You seem to assume that any and all "Egyptian" is the same. Chapter 2 of the book contrasts a diabolical "Egyptian" with Abramelin. What does Abramelin teach? Does he teach Egyptian ceremonial magic with ritual wands?
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This is from chapter 2, using your chosen translation ( Mathers ) on sacred-texts.com. which I had to study induced me to go to seek him in order to learn from him. But this man also had not received from the Lord the GIFT, and a perfect grace; because, although he forced himself to manifest unto me certain deep Mysteries of the Holy Qabalah, he by no means arrived at the goal; and in his Magic he did not in any way make use of the Wisdom of the Lord, but instead availed himself of certain arts and superstitions of infidel and idolatrous nations, in part derived from the Egyptians, Together with images of the Medes and of the Persians, with herbs of the Arabians, together with the power of the Stars and Constellations; and, finally, he had drawn from every people and nation, and even from the Christians, some diabolical Art. And in everything the Spirits blinded him to such an extent, even while obeying him in some ridiculous and inconsequent matter, that he actually believed that his blindness and error were the Veritable Magic, and be therefore pushed no further his research into the True and Sacred Magic. I also learned his extravagant experiments, and for ten years did I remain buried in so great an error, until that after the ten years I arrived in Egypt at the house of an Ancient Sage who was called ABRAMELIM, who put me into the true Path as I will declare it unto thee hereafter, and he gave me better instruction and doctrine than all the others; but this particular grace was granted me by the Almighty Father of all Mercy, that is to say, ALMIGHTY GOD, who little by little illuminated mine understanding and opened mine eyes to see and admire, to contemplate, and search out His Divine Wisdom, in such a manner that it became possible unto me to further and further understand and comprehend the Sacred Mystery by which I entered into the knowledge of the Holy Angels https://sacred-texts.com/grim/abr/abr008.htm
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... convoluted and irrelevant ... You're stalling.
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I do. Please write up your scientific test which will produce falsifiable evidence of magic.
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Go ahead. I'm sure the other readers will be interested in your rational evidence which is completely devoid of faith.
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" ... The language of the Gods?" The Hebrew language among religious Jewish people is called Lashon Kodesh which literally means "holy language" or "consecrated language". Lashon = language. Kodesh ( very similar to Kadosh ) = holy / consecrated, but, consecration is merely a designation, a separation, or a distinction between the Hebrew language and the others which are deemed mundane. I've been told, and I believe it's true, that the The "magical" or "heavenly" quality of the Hebrew language is not unlike the "magical" quality of Sanskrit and Arabic. Hebrew's advantage is that its iconography adds layers of significance to each word as it is being uttered, and, relatively speaking, it's an easy language to learn; easier to learn for western audiences when compared to Arabic and Sanskrit. There is also myth and Jewish legend that angels and demons ( whom are referred to, by some, as Gods ) speak Hebrew.
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This ^^ is a statement of faith. It's absolute certainty lacking falsifiable evidence. Faith. This is why facts are ignored if they undermine certainty. If this "craft" of magic does not require faith, then, maybe you can demonstrate some magic? Magic that exists beyond your mind and your imagination? Or perhaps it cannot be demonstrated for those who lack faith in your version of magic? Can you share some falsifiable, rational, scientific evidence of magic which does not require faith? ... I'll wait.
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What's the joke?
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I didn't watch the video. I'm not inclined to watch cartoons unless there is a good reason. Is there a good reason to watch it? What is added to this discussion about "magic" by bringing this children's movie?
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The information has been posted. It's not "me" telling. Ultimately, this is the source of the errant conclusions. Because Jewish "magic" has credibility among those who intend to be magicians, sorcerers, gurus, etc... it's common practice to look for correspondence and similarities ( while ignoring the contrast ) in their own practice with what they have been told is Jewish practice. Using Hebrew words and concepts in a "magical" context is often impressive and dazzling to those who don't know. ( for those who don't know... , this technique of using Hebrew concepts in this manner is a version of "glamour," it's a charm used by Magicians ). So, the "magical" community very strongly desires to put a "Jewish" label on their theories because its supposed to increase the faith in their craft.
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From Wikipedia, to corroborate what I've written: ^^ Maimonides admitted he was wrong. ^^ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_ben_David#:~:text=Raavad was thus an opponent,Aristotelian philosophy as Jewish theology.
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I've posted repeatedly on this forum regarding Maimonides' heresy and that he was cursed by the great kabalist, the Ravad, and rejected by the Jewish mystical community. https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q=ravad&author=daniel https://i.postimg.cc/qvthRgYs/Screenshot-20241026-053747.jpg
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Here is another source: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/maimonides-and-his-discontents/ 1) Maimonides' neoplatonic influence was a exception. It is controversial. It is not common among religious Jews. You have been referring to Maimonides as an example which describes Judaism. That is a false conclusion. It's typical of internet researchers. They find an example which supports their theory. They exaggerate its significance. They don't question it. There is virtually no critical thinking applied. It's as if they have seen a small picture in a frame, but have forgotten that it's just a small part off the big picture. 2) From the same source, the traditional mystical community, the kabalists, rejected Maimonides. This shows that his theories, influenced by neoplatonism, are not in harmony with traditional Jewish spirituality. His theories are not traditional. They were rejected by the traditionalists. That's because the Greek influence is new. They are new ideas being added to Judaism. Kabalistic concepts pre-existed. Greek philosophy and conflicts with original, authentic, Jewish beliefs, though, there are similarities. 3) Maimonides in Judaism is known as an extreme example of a specific sort of rational explanation for Jewish practice and scriptural interpretation. We study his writing. He is popular among those who struggle with esoteric concepts, those who have spent time learning other religions, and yeminite Jews who at times treat him as their Rebbe ( guru ).
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I down voted this post because it is a convoluted mess.
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It's true. I do love it. It's written in our scripture: Jeremiah 23:29 讛诇讜讗 讻讛 讚讘专讬 讻讗砖 谞讗诐志讬讛讜讛 讜讻驻讟讬砖 讬驻爪抓 住诇注變 Is not my word like fire ( 讗砖 aysh aleph+shin )? says YHVH; and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?