Daniel

I want the problem to come down to earth. I said: "Part of dealing with this problem you're having is helping to bring it "down to earth" so it can be addressed in a healthy, reasonable, and objective manner." I'm not going to use dirty tricks on you. The only sort of dirty tactic I could use on you is to build you up then knock you down. And that is definitely not what I'm doing. Like I said before, if anything I'm being too blunt and too harsh. If I was trying too trick you, wouldn't I be doing something sneaky? You feel attacked? You feel that way because I'm being completely honest. That's the opposite of sneaky. My critique is way-way out in the open. I've asked you some questions and you haven't answered. Your strong reaction indicates that I've hit a nerve, at times. OK. Good. I'd have to go back and review what you've written, but, you said you did some shitty things. Right. It sounds like we agree after all. OK. Hang on. Who is doing this to you? Who lied to you? Who betrayed you? Who wants to steal your essence? Who keeps taking it away? And if they're doing it without you knowing, how do you know it's happening? What endevours avail to nothing? Please be specific? What happened? Your sexuality? This sounds really important. I'm asking if these events are happening in the material realm? These sound like real problems. Who is doing this to you? "low level theft" "stealing of essence" "lying to you" "playing your sexuality against you" You want to cut ties with all of these ^^ things? And start new protecting yourself from whom? And not on their terms? What does that mean? What were their terms prior to cutting the ties? With whom? An unbalanced playing field with whom? What rules? What consequences? What happened? Who betrayed you? Make ammense wiith whom? What relations is this? What happened? Did someone break your heart? What bad things? It sounded like you hadn't done any bad things just a few sentences back. It's OK to say what they are. Who exploited you? Whom did you exploit? How did they exploit you? How did you exploit others? What happened? I don't think you're a bad guy, but you haven't said precisely what happened. Who ( no names, but more than relations.) girlfriend? friends? family members? clients? Who are the ones that you exploited? And who exploited you? girlfriend? friends? family member? clients? What? What was exploited? Your essence? What did you exploit? Their essence? There were lies? And sexuality? And theft? Details. What happened? I don't understand because you haven't shared what happened. What happened? Who? and What? And you've said you also exploited. Who? and What? What is the debt? What happened? Who owes you? To whom do you owe? Did someone betray you? Are you cutting ties with a person or people? Did someone break your heart? Clear and present danger means: There is an active threat to life or maybe property, where the the "who", "what", "when" and "how" are all known. The reason for having this rule is important. I am someone that finds value in helping people. Once someone knows that, they can use that to manipulate me, to exploit me, and get me to break my personal moral code. To protect myself against that, I have rules for when to consider breaking my own personal code. When it comes to online interactions, it's virtually impossible to show clear and present danger. That means I'm never breaking my moral code online. Never. No lying, no being sneaky. No manipulation of any kind. If I make a mistake, I admit it. I apologize and thank the person for the correction. No services offered, no money exchanges hands.

What is the outcome? Please share your prediction. That is not an open heart. You don't need to open your heart to do this. I am not claiming to be harmless. Only that I am not harming you. I can be a dangerous person, of course. Who can't? And it's not boasting to admit that I know things. It's true. Anything else would be false modesty which is lying. I do not lie. I am honest to a fault. I am too honest. In truth, I should probably be more subtle and less blunt. But that is against my own moral code. And I am rather strict about it unless there is a clear and present danger. But, getting back to the topic. You were talking about karma, and I have a question. Please. If a person is harming themself, to whom do they repay the debt? This goes back to my original assertion that ahimsa needs to be applied to oneself. If a person is harming themself, to whom do they repay the debt?

I don't call it anything other than "significant". Here is what I typed earlier in regard to this: "it does get complicated when a person considers themself a "higher" being and others "lower" beings ( you did say that by the way, you called others "lower" beings ). The reason it's complicated is because, if I'm telling you "this is normal, my friend" that will be immediately rejected because it is perceived as an attack on your status as a "higher being who could have healed the whole world if it weren't for some unseen forces, 'them' " Part of dealing with this problem you're having is helping to bring it "down to earth" so it can be addressed in a healthy, reasonable, and objective manner. But, there's strong resistence to that happening. You seem to want this "battle" "cure" and "rememdy" to happen in a unseen realm for multiple reasons. One of them is it positions you as a "higher" being above "lesser" beings. And if the problem is brought down to earth this undermines it. I'm not fighting anything. I'm listening to what you're saying, and encouraging honesty. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. And it's not unraveling. I said it was "shedding". Like dropping unneeded baggage, and coming out of multiple layers of full-body-suit-of armor. I didn't assume that. I didn't say a single word about your understanding of karma. That is an excellent example of a layer of meaning that was applied by you to my words. None of that was even in my thoughts at all. It's not hidden, it's just absent. You might as well be claiming I said something about your aardvark. I wasn't thinking about karma at all, or your understanding of it. The point is: there are multiple ways of dealing with these problems. There's not just one way. If you are perceiving this as karma, then, my judgement is: I think you have suffered enough. If you have forgotten "what you were in for and owing in the first place" then it's reasonable to consider, maybe you've paid those debts. And then this probably provokes a response: "Can't be because I am being attacked and punished, etc..." And my response is: "Unless you're attacking yourself which is producing more karma."

I don't hate you. I accept you. Do you hate me? What do you think I'm trying to do? What does this success look like that you think I am endeavoring? "Obulaue Arauanda" has no effect on me. Was it supposed to do something? Was I supposed to feel something?

I have some secrets that's true. I won't share too much about certain topics for various reasons. But none of it is relevant to the topic as far as I know. I haven't examined it deeply, though. Obviously I'm not giving out any personal info. And there is an occult element to theese topics, which literally means hidden. They're hidden for good reasons. They're dangerous. That said, you're welcome to ask me anything you want, and when I decline to answer or dodge, you'll know that's something I'm hiding. Regarding "busy": if you go back and review the thread, you'll see: you asked a question and posed it as a hypothetical. I anwered it as a hypothetical. But it wasn't hypothetical at all, and details were omitted. I mentioned the repeated consecutive references to "heart". This should be no surprise that this is significant, considering, this is the percieved location of the malignant entity. I also indicated the shadow-work was significant, because, that puts the "beautiful maiden" into a whole different class and category. Also the "woods" in the hypothetical are in a whole different class and category. And "going into the woods for medicine" takes on a whole new tone and character. And. It's dangerous doing shadow-work without help. Human, flesh, and blood, and bone, help. Not spirit guides. After that, in the beginning, I said what I wanted to say about it. And I left it be. If you go back and read the thread I think it''s clear, I was not "busy" at all. However, when you did not respond to my question about the shadow-work, that confirmed to me that this was highly significant. And it is. Just as I said that, you'll know that I am hiding something if I dodge or decline answering, the same is true for you. So, that's it. I'm not being "busy" at all. After that, you continued to ask for help, and that's what I'm doing. What you're actually observing, imo, is that "words" have layers and layers of meaning and they, the "words", speak to a person on multiple levels of their mind, heart, and soul. When people speak, they unintentionally layer these meanings into their words without even knowing it. The same thing happens in stories that are written, poetry, any and all media. It always happens this way. And, it's kind of a good thing, because AI can be distinguished from a human this way. Anyway. These layers, this content, is what is studied in literary analysis, it is what is included in advertising, and it's what gives propaganda it's influence. But, the human mind also applies its own layers and layers and layers of meaning onto "words" when they are read or heard. Those layers are the "subjective" inner-experience. One of the side-effects of shadow-work is becoming aware of these layers of meaning. And it can be overwhelming to say the least. It can make people appear to be two-faced, or like they are lying, and being deceptive. That's not actually what's happening. It's complicated, really-really complicated how this works when a person starts going deeper and deeper into the dark recesses of their own heart and mind. That's why people get help for doing this sort of thing. If a person is on a road trip going through hell, you definitely don't want to get lost. And like I said, becoming disoriented is pretty much gauranteed. What happens during the shadow-work? It's intigating an intellectual, emotional crisis, then solving it. It breaks the bud for it to blossom. In gardening this is called "dead-heading". When a person is having a mental, emotional, spiritual crisis, ( mind, heart, soul ) they often are applying false meaning to the "words" they are reading or hearing. Remember all those layers I talked about, those layers which are being applied by the reader / listener is false and manuufactured and the meaning is misinterpretted. And, sadly, it gets worse because, a "word" is nothing more than a symbol. And the human mind operates almost exclusively on symbolism in day-to-day function. It is pre-language on an evolutionary scale. The human mind literally evolved processing symbols going as far back as single celled organisms. So, even everyday perceptions, which are symbols, can be falsely perceived as reverberating with meaning that simply isn't there. In this extreme case, everything can seem "busy" But, more often it's not this extreme and, the mind and heart is only sometimes adding these layers of meaning, but it's still a larger quantity of content. These layers are extra. The number of layers is increased dramatically. That's what I think you're observing as "busy". I'm sorry. It's not me being "busy", it's again, your own mind adding layer and layer and layer of meaning which isn't actually there. But! You're not wrong about the layers and layers of meaning that are "encoded" in words and symbols and ... well, life in general. You're right about that. You are sensitive, you are aware of things that other people are often taking for granted. That's true. But, those things are ignored by most people for good reason, because, it's too much. There's such a thing as "too-much". It doesn't make people dual-faced. It's just natually being human and not a machine ( AI ), a plant, or an insect. And. There's nothing inherrently wrong with a person for adding layers of false meaning to what they read hear and see. People do it all the time. All day long. But its a matter of degree. Look at politics in America. Wow. Lots of false meaning being applied there. That's what produces the extreme left-right split. So, these are not negative judgements against you. It's just about being human. Although, it does get complicated when a person considers themself a "higher" being and others "lower" beings ( you did say that by the way, you called others "lower" beings ). The reason it's complicated is because, if I'm telling you "this is normal, my friend" that will be immediately rejected because it is perceived as an attack on your status as a "higher being who could have healed the whole world if it weren't for some unseen forces, 'them' "

In a different thread, someone mentioned learning "cordcutting rites" in Medical Qi-Gong and/or Daoist Nei-Gong. Does such a thing exist in these traditions / practices? Thank you,

agreed. now what? but seriously, it's only "now" from that "eternal" perspective, and that is not here-and-now. One would need to escape "here" and approach the infinite in order for that "eternity" to become "now". And one could never get there, only approach it. Gen 3:24. Or I could discuss without scripture if you prefer.

OK... but before I do, please know I have a great respect for christianity and the book of john. where did flesh come from, and what does flesh represent spritually in christian theology? once this is applied to that famous, imo, misunderstood chapter, Is it **actually** monist?

I'm sorry for replying out of turn, but, do you want this tulpa or not? Is it a tulpa? Or is it a demon? In the thread where you replied to me, it seemed like you had a negative perception that I was trying to "milk it or manipulate" this tulpa? Maybe you weren't even directing that towards me? I am not sure what you mean with this talk of a tulpa. And that supports what I said at the end of my mot recent reply. This tulpa is confused and confusing, and you sound confused too. You said: "I would have healed the entire world by now with thoughts alone." Seriously? Remember how I mentioned "wanting to be the hero"? My friend, I've been right-on-it, from the very beginning of this thread. I gave you excellent adivce for the hypotheical, but you were hiding a great many details about your actual situation. And now that more and more of these layers are being shed, I'm still making the right calls. Consistently. The simple fact that I called this "hero" thing, a day or two ago, and here you have posted "healed the entire world by now with thoughts alone." should indicate, I actually know what I'm talking about. There isn't a bigger hero than that. healing the entore world with your thoughts alone? You don't trust me. Your tulpa or whatever it is doesn't trust me... of course not, you feel like you've been betrayed. I'm going to leave it at that unless you choose to continue this dialogue with me, or ask for any other advice in general.

100% no. I do not offer any services at all. If I see an opportunity to help, I don't ignore it. That's all. We're here, in the same place and the same time, maybe it's for a good reason. If someone offered me money, I would absolutely decline it. That would ruin it. I don't even charge people for work in my own chosen field. Everything is free. I have a very successful career. I promise. I'm not really sure how to convince you that would not be considered flamboyant and extravagant. You can go search my posts here, I suppose and look for anything, anywhere, that has even the slightest whiff of solicitation. I have not used the word karma even one time in this conversation. I certainly have not said anything about transferring karma. I think I'll leave it at that, unless you have specific quote of mine where I made these claims, or if you have any other questions about it. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but it is the path you have chosen for yourself by doing shadow-work. I'm not doing any of those things. Your tulpa is welcome and accepted. That's a consequence of the shadow-work. That's the conclusion. But, a tulpa can be ... impersonated. It can also be a demon. Quite honestly, it can be both. Simultaneously. What's actually happening is, the layers are being encouraged to shed. You've been hiding. Hiding from the very beginning of this thread. And what you're perceiving as dual-faced is nothing more than the dual-face of those whom you believe betrayed you. But I'm not them. I promise. I'm actually your friend. You don't have to believe it. And you don't need to return my friendship. it comes free of charge with zero expectations of reciprocation or reimbursement. You came here with a broken heart, my friend. Who hasn't experienced that? At the end of the day, you'll need to make a choice. Do you want this to heal? I don't think you do. At least not yet. And that's fine. But I would caution you from seeking others out to feed your demon with validation and faith, it's probably not going to happen the way you/it desires, which will lead to frustration or worse, and you're already in, kind of, rough shape, imo. That said, if you don't want to see me reply any more, don't reply to me. But if you ask for advice on an open forum, that's ... asking for advice. If you ask twice, you'll get more advice. That's what happened here. You've heard my opinion. This conversation ends when you choose to end it. That's part of me being a good friend to you. Respect. Blaming.... there it is again. These unseen forces, all you need to do is turn away from them. It begins with a choice. If your tulpa is pushing back and resisting, if you feel that, in your heart, a pain, when you consider turning away from these unseen "takers" and depriving them of any authority over you... then the tupla is actually involved in this. And if so, maybe it's not actually a tupla. You have a romantic ideal for what this tupla is, but... Please. Remember your intro-post. It's a beautiful maiden who tricked you. A beautiful maiden... the tulpa, who, maybe, is not a tulpa. But it doesn't mean she needs to go. But sheedding those layers and revealing her true nature... well, she's going to resist that strongly. The beautiful thing about shadow-work is, once a person has mastered it, they can visit those shadows anytime they wish. Let me just ask you a simple question. If she doesn't want you to be in control and be able to ignore these "takers" and refuse their power as simply as flipping a light switch, is she on your side? Really? Maybe she is , and maybe she's just as confused as you are.

see below: TThe assumption that is being made which produces the question: "why not?" is that the illusion is of a specific manner. That is a baseless assumption conceived from a desire to escape duty. This baseless asssumption is falsely encouraged by plucking out just a few words of the text and ignoring the others. The "illusion" is not "duty-exists" such that "disillusionment" reveals absolute "nothingness" and freedom from duty. "disillusionment" reveals, acccording to the text, a "cycle". This cycle is hidden, cloaked, under a veil of "illusion". And this is demonstrated, by the illusion that that is being conjured by ignoring what the text actually has written and instead only focusing on the little bits, the few words, that are imagined to dissipate and evaporate "duty". That is no different than the illusion of seeing each indivdual "body" and each individual set of "clothes" as the only ones thus ignoring the "cycle". It's hyper focusing on the one individual tree, that is most pleasing and desirable while ignoring the entire grove. This desirable tree, "no-duty", is so very-very desirable that all the other trees disappear, and an illusion is produced such that there is no grove. The one little sentence, with the one little word "illusion" and the words "free us from our duties" are so very-very desirable that the rest of the words vanish. And that is no different than focusing on the current body, the current shell, and the rest of the cycle of soul and bodies vanishes. But the text is saying that this ^^ , the above, is an illusion. The vanishing of our duties is an illusion that is banished by realizing... see below, from the text: I sincerely hope this helps and answers the queestion for you any others.

Use Your Illusion! Guns-AND-Roses! Simultaneously. ---------------------------------------------------- Shadow-work: ( From the lyrics of November-Rain ) Love-restrained, hearts-can-change Nothing-lasts-forever, in-the-cold-november-rain Ooh, everybody needs some time on their own Ooh, don't you know you need some time all alone I know it's hard to keep an open heart When even friends seem out to harm you you could heal a broken heart: ** when your fears subside ** ** and shadows still remain ** ** when there's no one left to blame ** ** never mind the darkness ** ---------------------------------------------------- Then. It's graduation-day. Welcome Home! Aloha! ---------------------------------------------------- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_Rain

Greetings DaoBums: This thread is to discuss and explore DDJ 40 its translation and implications. I hope to go through the different versions of the chapter, explore the conventional translations why they might be correct, and perhaps discuss places where alternate translations are more appropriate or should be considered. I would also like to explore the surrounding chapters to discern the flow, if there is one, from the preceding chapter, into this one, and flowing on to the next. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the Wang Bi: ( I think? ) obtained from Ctext.org. 反者道之動；弱者道之用。天下萬物生於有，有生於無 The Henricks book with the MWD does not contain chapter 40. This book claims to have the oldest extant version of the compiled DDJ. 180ish BCE TAQ ( the latest beginning ). daoisopen.com has a comparison chart. It claims the following additions and differences in the MWD B. MWD A is mostly incomplete. 反也者道之動也；__ __者道之用也。天下之物生於有，有__於无 The same comparison chart claims to have the characters from another version predating the Wang Bi, the Guodian. This collection is on bamboo with only a small fraction of the chapters of the DDJ. But its dating per wikipedia is approx 300 BCE, also TAQ presumably. Here is how the comparison chart renders it with the differences compared to the Wang Bi emphasized. The -- indicates a missing character, as opposed to a __ missing character with a blank space. 返者道--動也；弱者道之用也。天下萬物生於有，有生於亡 (edit: these characters are not accurate and have ben corrrected later in the thread) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are three different translations into english obtained from yellowbridge.com Legge: The movement of the Dao By contraries proceeds; And weakness marks the course Of Dao's mighty deeds. All things under heaven sprang from It as existing (and named); that existence sprang from It as non-existent (and not named). Suzuki: "Homeward is Reason's course, Weakness is Reason's force." Heaven and earth and the ten thousand things come from existence, but existence comes from non-existence. Goddard: Retirement is characteristic of Dao just as weakness appears to be a characteristic of its activity. Heaven and earth and everything are produced from existence, but existence comes from nonexistence. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, I look forward to working through this and learning a lot together.

~begin-sarcasm~ but... but, but, it makes me feel so good. how can something so wrong feel so right? ~end-sarcasm~

Really? Respectfully, THC oil is a binding agent. One of the most viscous sticky substances I have ever encountered. The flowers are super sticky too. I'm not a user, but, I have friends. I help them sometimes. One of things I've done is render it into medicine. I have a hard time with this notion that it is a lubricant. Oh! The seeds? That'll clean the pipes. Absolutely. They have virtually no thc at all. But super healthy.

Good. This seems to be either a clarification of what you wrote previously or a departure from it. I've been through this, and you have my sympathy and support. When you say "generational", that, to me, means you have not actually witnessed, in this lifetime, the trauma. Because of this, I question, ( a question which does not need an answer ), who is it you are "cutting off"? How much of the "energetic-vampirism" is actually happening in the here-and-now, and how much of it is, forgive me, being blamed on past generations. Yes I have pondered these things. You sound american, in the west these are called generational-curses. They are a concept in evangelical christianity. In truth, they are banished by simply turning away from them. But preachers in "deliverance ministries" capitalize, take-advantage, exploit the desire of the petitoner to blame their problems on some unseen force. Ironically, the evangelist in this case IS the "energy-vampire". They are conjuring the demon they are attempting to banish. This happens all the time. Since the root cause is "blaming-the-other" and this is "conjuring" the demon and feeding it, and the one who is banishing is simultaneously conjuring it, THEN.... ~poof~, magically, there is a steady flow of petitioners, and the collection plate is being filled. And the petitioner's faith in the magical power of the preacher and the magic they are working is a tasty snack for the energy-vampire, who, like I said, is the preacher. The faith is the energy that is feeding the demon. Makes sense? Understanding it requires a mature comprehension of what a demon actually is. I just wonder if this shame is warranted. Is it "just", "proper", "correct", to inflict this shame on yourself. If not, it is causing the same phenomena I described above. It's a cycle. It self-propagtes. Previously I used the concept himsa, and recommended ahimsa towards yourself. From that perspective, it's still a self-propogating cycle. Simultaneously being the hero-and-the-villian is the same cycle. Simultaneously conjuring and banishing the demon, is the same cycle. It's all the same thing. Cutting the cycle is easier said than done. But, in short, it's "turning over a new leaf". Go ahead and make an accounting. But the accounting needs to be accurate. TThey way to get an accurate evalutation of what you actually did and the gravity of those "sins" is... by talking to an objective 3rd party about it. Not me. This is not self-promotion. I am not a therapist. I have my own job, my own profession, my own source of income. I am not soliciting my services. I'm just offering to help, because, you're here, and I'm here, and somehow, we were brought together in this same time and place, and you seem to have a problem, and maybe I can help, just by listening. And maybe offering some objective outside perspectives. After the accurate acccounting, make ammends with those you have harmed, if possible. In a real, way, in the physical, flesh and blood and bones way. Then take a deep breath and move on. If you can't make ammends... the same applies. If there is literally nothing that can be done, take a deep breath and move on. I was replying to what you wrote. So you're saying that you are the enemy who is exploiting the lower beings? Whomever is "stopping the senseless exploitation" is a hero. Whomever is "exploiting the lower beings" is the villian. Again, it's a cycle.... a self-propagating cycle. A drum-beat... a heart-beat. Heart. Beat. Heart. I promise you, I know how this works. If you are both the one who is exploiting, and the one who is stopping it, you are both hero and villian. That is a natural conclusion reached from doing "shadow-work". But, unless you have not been told, and it seems you do not have anyone helping you, my friend, with shadow-work, it gets worse before it gets better. Much much worse, and then... hopefully, it gets better. The idea is... keep heading down hill.... Water collects... down-hill. creeks become streams, streams, become rivers, rivers become bigger rivers which eventually lead to the ocean. The ocean is love, my friend. The ocean is love. Aloha. Once you make it to the ocean, you're out of the woods, and you can find your way home from there. But it's not easy. It gets worse before it gets better. The river is super-choppy and dangerous as it empties into the sea. Even building a raft... good luck. You need a good raft, indigenous knowledge, and, for safety, one needs to be an excellent strong swimmer. Just knowing how to "float" won't cut it. The nice thing about following the river down hill, is, it's great for navigation when lost in "the-unknown-territory". But, without a raft or a guide.... it's treacherous. Hiking along the banks... not a good option. If you've ever tried this in real-life. You know what I'm saying is true. Based on what you've written, and the shadow-work. You are your own worst enemy. But, my friend. Hee-hee, You're not alone. I'm my own worst enemy too. We're all our own worst enemies. You're in excellent company, I promise. That's the conclusion of shadow-work. Literally. Conclusion. The end. Finis. Denouement. Then ... Graduation. Moving On to greener pastures and a brighter future.

I'm not against that. These would be things you have done, you take responsibility for them. That means they are not the product of evil spirits of past generations. Or other people attacking you or taking advantage of you. Or some other mysterious change in the world where things are becoming "dark". Or imaginging that it is your destiny, your life-path that is to ... blame. Cleaning up your karma means taking responsibility. But, also, it can't be taken to an extreme where one is harming themself for things they actually didn't do. That produces karma too. Harm to oneself is still harm. Ahimsa. To yourself too. Setting oneself up as the "hero"? I simply don't think you're in a position to acccurately evaluate the enemy, or what to do about it. Of course, but, it can backfire. And it's best not to attempt it solo. Who is helping you? Real flesh and blood humans? Then it's probably not a good idea to engage in that, nor to pretend you would know what, when, where, why, and how, to do it safely. And the seeking out some generational spirit to blame is heading in the w-r-o-n-g direcction if you want to get healthy. If not... please by all means... feed those "black" spirits more of your "tasty" faith in them. OK. Reality check. Just a few sentences ago, you said you only worked with black magic in a state of "unawareness". Now you're claiming you know what "often" happens. My friend. Come on. This is getting silly. I don't think you're being intentionally dishonest. I think you're actually being boastful about what you know, and what you've done. But this is being masked by this facade of being afflicted. I don't doubt you feel afflicted. But it still could be nothing more than a magic-show your mind is conjuring. Playing with magic, specifically the type of magic you're working with, mixing a bunch of stuff together, permits the mind to do this sort of thing... to itself You'll work though it eventually, I'm sure.

Do you want to be involved in black magic?

Blaming is not taking responsibility. how old is this karma? who are these remnant? That would be blaming as well. So if things don't change course, any one of these things can be blamed, right? What you've been doing now? "diving deep into magic, banishing, cord cutting rites and bought a whole lot of crystals, incense and stuff like that" is that "soft or hard"? It's different right? In the past: "Beforehand I would try to help people with lots of herbal medicines, useful exercises and just plain advice as to how to change their issues. " In the present: "I've been diving deep into magic, banishing, cord cutting rites and bought a whole lot of crystals, incense and stuff like that.... " Now you're asking if in the future you should try : "the hardline demonslaying protective magician style approach". My suggestion is: this trend is not healthy for you. Beneath the "heart". you meantioned "heart" several times **consecutively** unprompted in this thread, along with one seemingly accidental slip-up mentioning shadow-work. Yes I am familiar with this sort of "entity". It comes from the sort of magic you are attempting. I doubt you know how it works. Dis-belief will cure it. It is feeding off your desire, off of your "heart" which is engaged by the magic you are attempting. Taking personal responsibiliity for it, and recognizing it for what it is, a manifestation of your own desires, will cure it. This is not an easy thing to accomplish. The desire to be a "magical" person who can "work magic" is actually very strong "magic". That is the desire that is feeding it. That is the desire that needs to be abandoned. "Magic" is not always good. It can be good, or bad, depending. In this case, it's bad.

This sort of blame-game is a self-fulfilling-prophecy.

Which words are coming from 氣? Are soul and body being compared to concentrated "chi" and extreme softness?

Laotze has it in 3 chapters of the DDJ: 10, 42, and 55. Translation assistance here would be greatly appreciated.

It has been proposed that Laotze was a naturalist and and an atheist. This thread is to discuss occurences of "spirit" in english translations of the DDJ. Is this a spirit like a ghost? A disembodied soul? Is it something else? At the time of composition of the DDJ, lacking modern scientific knowledge of natural forces governing: birth, growth, sickness, death, germination, blossoming, producing fruit/seed moving constellations phases of the moon seasons weather etc Does it make sense for Laotze to completely avoid any "spiritual" beliefs in the manner of a naturalist atheist by today's standards?

有，名萬物之母 >>> "You", was a name given to Tao as the mother of all things. Amma Whatt featuring Vinx and Monet: "You". ... "有" , make my life a sunny day, "有" ... give me "有"

Thank you, that is a good clarification. The concern over physical gratification and charisma in the OP describes something else. And I was careful not to judge in particular, although, in general divinization, just like anything, has benefits and liabilities. The author known as "paul" writes: NIV: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— Does this, perhaps, explain what you were observing in yourself? It is a lofty aspiration, especially the last line. Lacking this obedience, the gains would be perceived as a loss.