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No one I know personally that practices uses a grounding wire in such a way.

He probably did overdo it because he was so kind-hearted and offered healing Non-Stop. He was nowhere near the level required cure cancer like his teacher Liao who was level 48. Supposedly Jiang's death was caused from over exerting himself during a healing if that's true I don't know. If John's claim that past level 48 you can cure cancer is true I also don't know. Kosta never said what these complications were nor has there ever been the evidence he himself had cancer only rumors that as far as I can see are unsubstantiated. Jim's cancer genomically was linked to agent orange exposure in Vietnam. The fact of the matter is that about 40% of regular people who don't practice Mopai going to get cancer and that if you live long enough and you're a male it's almost 100% certain you will get prostate cancer. I can only state that all people I know who treat this practice with the required respect, practice the actual methods not some false Facebook pdfs, don't alter the practice, and completely adhere to the safety precautions don't seem to have any problems that at least none that I'm aware of. If John's claim that past level 48 you can cure cancer is true then I think it's best to say that at the lower levels mopai offers zero protection against the practitioner contracting cancer. If this is true then it does not seem reasonable to me to point the finger at mopai and claim that it is the causative factor in cases of cancer. Every single instance of somebody getting injured seriously ill or having mental health problems that I am aware of has been because they were ignoring safety precautions and altering the practice adding and subtracting and changing it into something new.

John clearly stated he was nowhere near the level required to heal cancer, Liao could (according to John) but he was past level 48. There are a lot of people who have practiced fake mopai methods, or altered the mopai methods themselves and ignored safety precautions and suffered major health problems, and major mental health problems as a result. I do not know anyone personally that has given this practice the respect it deserves, followed instructions and safety precautions exactly and had any problems what-so-ever. My grandmother died of cancer at a much younger age than John did, and she got plenty of exercise and had a good diet. She also never practiced mopai a day in her life. I know people who served in Vietnam, had agent orange exposure and went on to develop the exact type and specific form of cancer Jim McMillan had also never practiced mopai at all during their lifetimes. https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/conditions/prostate_cancer.asp In fact almost all men will one day develop prostate cancer provided they live long enough. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4324338/#:~:text=But the precise year when,expect to get the disease. The fact that the line has a positive and significant slope affirms that the risk of a man developing prostate cancer is increasing and that all men, if they live long enough, can expect to get the disease. About 40% of all people will develop cancer during their lifetime: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics#:~:text=Approximately 39.5% of men and,will die of the disease. Approximately 39.5% of men and women will be diagnosed with cancer at some point during their lifetimes (based on 2015–2017 data).

I agree that what most people call mopai will make you sick if you attempt it, for whatever reason authentic teachings are almost impossible to find openly anywhere and there is a strange phenomenon where people invent new practices, call them "mopai" and then sell books about them on amazon, or post them for free on Facebook groups. People then practice these new systems which have been labeled as "mopai" get sick and blame the practice itself. It is a sad state of affairs. In short you should not attempt unless you are certain the teachings come straight from the source, and have not been altered or changed in anyway.

If you know anyone who is a professional scholar of either Daoism and or Buddhism, please send me a private message. I would like to connect with these people to ask some questions in private. Thank you very much in advance! Willing to pay for the service.

Also don't kill the turtle pope, he is a nice guy.

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You certainly are entitled to your opinion on the matter.

This is not a case of admission by silence, we're on page 9 with a discussion which should have taken less than a few replies after I posted a small snippet from John's own letter written to Jim. I can only imagine the umpteenth page this would go to if I dared to open the can of worms you're wanting to open. I spoke my piece in regards to what John actually said to Jim in his letters, and what John taught both in the videos Jim recorded and others. I am definitely not comfortable continuing to drag out this argument until everyone is blue in the face and the horse is beaten so thoroughly that the glue factory won't take it. I am not comfortable going down that road there's no sense in it. If you want to have that discussion the best I can do for you would be on a forum off site where if the discussion continued on to page 4,632 it would not disturb the community and more specifically the administration here. Thank you for your understanding.

Just a quick note that I am ignoring these questions, as I have already stated I am not comfortable continuing the discussion. It will not be necessary to continue to ask the same things repeatedly.

Unfortunately I am not comfortable discussing that.

What I was trying to explain is that grounding during training is a hard requirement and not optional. If this is incorrect information I couldn't say, I only know what was taught.

Unfortunately I don't speak Javanese or Indonesian.

Training information only no metaphysics.

A translator is capable of translating what is said on video.

I prefer the video instruction, but that is just my preference.

Some of the videos I reference were recorded for Indonesian students, no western student were present.

Not my intention to imply anything, just that what I was taught seems to disagree with your understandings. If John is wrong and you are right I couldn't say with certainty.