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Evil has a definition. Evil is that which opposes or harms, and Good is that which aids or heals. You can say that "action is not Evil" but that is untrue from the use of the definition of the word. Actions are just actions, it is true, and yes, it is our perception of them which defines it- but that is true of all understanding. Actions have a result, and we choose to react to it as good or bad. Its intrinsic in the nature of our use of the words good and evil. You can turn the meaning of intelligence into conscious awareness if you like, but I am fine with the old definition that intelligence means understanding. I dont presume that people are unenlightened and acting ignorantly with their Will, though this might be true, the definition of Good and Evil does not falter- it is their interpretation that falters. It just means they are not acting intelligently. Nietzsche makes the point that Evil is not always bad, that it sometimes results in making people stronger, or more inventive. This might be true as well, but that does not mean it is not Evil.

Evil is natural to this sensual world. Thanks to lust and hunger, we have Evil actions. Ive watched children attack each other at the age of 2 for no apparent reason, its instinctual. How many of us can say we never stole? We want stuff and there are ways to get it that arent legal. Nietzsche was right, but that doesnt mean that we cannot train it out of ourselves, though when you drain your lust, passion and hunger you might find yourself weaker and loving less (feeling love, not being love). At the height of the mind comes the true will to do what is right, but it is not the Will that we are used to, its the Will of intelligence. Evil is everywhere.

If you believe in Good and Evil then yes, there are Evil Masters. If you think life is just a series of events that are cause effect or determined by animal law, then no.

How old are you? Is it too early in life to settle? Love and sex can be two different things, which do you want or do you want them both? Are you too young to settle?

I dont know. Im a white male living in the middle of the country where there is mostly peaceful Christians so I have no complaints. Im not that sensitive to global warming (or informed enough) to worry about the green new deal, but from what I know about it, it makes sense, and should be a good revenue building industry- though what it would do to the other industries that arent green, IDK (probably why its not happening). I have no complaints about my rights, but I read that the ratio for black people dying at the hands of cops compared to white people is 3 to 1, and that says something, but its not just about racism, its probably got to do with the fact that since blacks have not had the opportunity and history to create wealth like Caucasians, there is more poverty, and with poverty comes crime- not that it HAS to include crime, but those without have to find some means to acquire the goods that they need to live. I was under the impression that we had conquered the school zoning problem but maybe not, maybe poor districts have poorer schools still. It takes more than an opportunity for an education- it requires a safe home environment for learning, and when the house is poor or there is crime, there isnt the chance to learn in peace or be inspired to believe that education is the way out of poverty. Things to address in this light is single parent homes with deadbeat dads not paying child support, so I am all about more welfare for these people, but we all know how the right feels about welfare. Trying to adjust premarital sex or marriage to the father of your children isnt going to work. Maybe if we stopped letting our youth culture promote sex and drugs things would be different. Education is always paramount to adjusting these things, and I am all for contraception education. I came up with a method to teach kids how things work but was told that is already implemented in schools, so Im out of ideas. I just hope the democrats continue with their aiding education and welfare for the less privileged. Its still sad the way the religious right is failing their ideals with their voting measures, mostly because they are against abortion, but also because they believe that the little man needs to take care of their lives and livelihood on their own by adopting the morals of the religion. This is true to some degree but not everyone takes this on, and in the land of the free, we have to take care of everyone from a religious perspective, and not hold to the belief that if we take care of the Man, the Man will take care of us. Its written into our constitution that we should be taxed to aid our people, and there should be enough money to go around to help everyone. As far as health care goes- I dont see a way to stop them from raising the costs so high when it is covered by the government. Unfortunately people with free health care go to the doctor a lot from what I have seen. Who am I to tell them they shoudnt be concerned about their health? Its too bad that the health care association takes advantage, but health care has always been expensive.

In order for one to become Divine, one needs to know what is Divine. If Christ appeals to you as Divine, then Christianity is the place to be. If Anton Levay seems more Divine to you, then join Satanism. When you break it down, nearly anyone can be declared a prophet if they can explain themselves and their way well enough. So what is Divine? Is it love? Power? Creativity? Mercy, as Christianity suggests? I believe that most sane, sensible people with an average IQ are already enlightened. I believe that we all have our choices, and should we not find too many reasons to break laws or harm, we have reached a point of gnosis that works for us, and could work for others. We see this in open society, with a lot of people with their opinion. Is there a static condition for society? Can we name the rules and obligations, behaviors that are absolute? We certainly try, but history would tell us that this is not a static condition after all. Perhaps if we could all agree on the same motive and practice, and that is why we have organized systems. Does the occult provide for this? No, it is the possibilities presented and we make the choices, from there creating new systems.

Ive come to find that at the end of contemplation lies the awareness of Nothingness. The mystic will find that there is no more Will or want, and that All is silent. But Nothingness is not life, and so the mystic must turn back towards life- which is desire and duty. What does the encounter with Nothingness bring? The mystic has three choices: Acquisition, chaos, and kindness. In Nothingness is no meaning, and in a meaningless world, one is free to have no Law- and so they could choose Chaos. But that is not so productive as the other two options, which are acquisition and kindness, for in life there is a need for meaning, and the meaning is found in duty and desire. Acquisition of the experiences of life and the material, and or kindness, which is the result of knowing that behind all of this is a form of chaos and suffering which can only be aided by kindness.

Oh, how Ive mourned our condition. Mourning our fragility, and our belief in immortality, that we are impervious to the dangers that we face. Mourned that we cannot agree on order, mourned that we cannot live up to the word kindness. Mourned that we allow our lives to pass us by without taking the actions to make it what we choose to be.

Speaking of enlightenment, I see oodles of truth now. The most important of which is that I now understand Law, though not in quite the detail that it can be understood, I have a grasp on what is right and wrong in our world. The biggest disappointment with becoming knowing is that I realize we all have the right to choose how we want to live. This should be a good thing, no? Well for me, it means that people can be indifferent or mean, or angry and abusive (though not truly abusive, but still ignorant in light of kindness), people are free to live and be who they like, and as far as order on that realm, there will be none. I can imagine a perfect path through life but if it falls on deaf ears then it is nothing. Surely all wisdom cultures feel this way. When it comes to personal choice about how to live, there is no right or wrong. The only right or wrong is when it comes to other peoples rights and property.

Im reading the Penguin History of the World and noticing that the history of the world is all about war, mostly. I find it funny that there are "barbarians" and then there are "civilized", when the civilized were war faring too. Its all barbaric if you ask me. Im about a sixth of the way through it and its all war war war, with a little advancing of religion sprinkled in. Havent even gotten to the science part yet. Makes me think about how we invaded a few places or make airstrikes on targets (people) and just randomly kill. America isnt that just, when you think about it. War should be waged in cultural form only, with the evidence that our way is best converting the other ways. If only we could get rid of the military <sigh>.

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Historically speaking, a God is born in an Age, and in that Age certain things are discovered which are attributed to that God. As time moves on, past discoveries are also attributed to that God, until it seems that that God was God all along, destroying the memory of the other Gods. This would be true of Thoth, and many others. In the end its all GOD, a God with many names and faces.

Its depicted in the tarot- indeed, its the main theme of that tool. When you think about life, you can imagine that it is just birth, growth, learning and completion- but a hero is something different. A hero is someone that has a quest for something, and its pretty easy to see that a quest requires a journey, and a confrontation, and a resolution (should the hero be successful). When applying this to the mystical, you have things like the underworld and spirits/gods. In this particular diagram there is the theory that the hero is not infallible, having to realize their own imperfections and make atonement for them. This is life; we are never perfect in the eyes of the gods, though the highest height of our understanding of perfection led us on the quest, we have made our share of mistakes, especially in retrospect after having learned "the truth" from the journey.

I am no knower of Christianity, having been raised in the church and what little knowledge I have being drawn from my meager experiences as a youth and listening to my parents constant awareness through Catholic radio programs. Well, that's only partly true, I've investigated to some degree as an adult. I recall a program that quoted Christ as saying he has come to make us gods. I personally believe that in order to be one with god, we need to know gods Will and want. That means know the rules and follow them. I do believe there are certain laws to things that we cannot cross, but I don't believe it is as strict as the Christian moralists want us to believe. So far as the fall of man, Id say that the fall is birth, having been a soul drawn from Heaven and incarnated. Have you watched children grow and experiment? Do you recall your own childhood? We are not wise, we are daring and foolish, and we indulge in things out of curiosity- things both good and bad. It is life experience to trial and error, and when you consider that this is how we actually are without education and advice, you have to consider that, if we are part of god initially, that any person at any time is with god, or like god. That each person is already enlightened by their lives and are correct in their interpretation of life.

Hi. I don't know where else to post so I'm going to post here because I know that a lot of the modern occult world is so focused on the Will. I just wanted to say that there is no absolute Will of mankind, everyone finds their reason. I think life is mostly about want and survival, with a lot of neglect to our safety. I recall watching them build a large building in my town here and thinking how amazingly daring it is for mankind to try to do such things at such heights. We naively believe in some kind of security but really we are at the mercy of the environment, and one another. The environment we cannot really do anything about but the one another part we can. I guess I am becoming very conservative in my age, where in my youth I was much more brash and daring- reckless in some ways, and inconsiderate in others. I was never a harmful person, but I could have been more attentive to people's needs and where they were at in life. I've since learned my lesson. I don't do much now.

What do you think is the source of Will? The closest I can come is that its in the root Chakra and is linked to lust. I dont think the heart is the center of Will, but I think it has a Will and is guided by the mind. Its not the stomach, but the stomach supplies a motive to use Will. Will is lower, I believe. Actually, I think the Will is the whole body working in unison.

True knowledge is what works when you interact with an object, though considering the variables the outcome isn't always the only one. Trial and error is what its all about, documenting the process and compiling data to presume knowledge. When it comes to people, true knowledge is based on their actions as well, and there are many ways to act and react to situations. It helps if a person has rules, but in this Age, that may be asking too much. Even bible believing people miss steps, and the words of a prophet are always open to interpretation.

The Serpent of Wisdom walked me into a grove of trees. "This is a place of Wisdom" it said. "Tell me what I see" I replied. "It pointed to a tree with a rabbi sitting beneath it "That is the Tree of Life". Then it pointed to a tree with a magician sitting beneath it "That is the tree of Chaos and Order" "My kin sits beneath the tree of Knowledge" it pointed towards a rather well develped tree of great strength. Then it pointed over to a tree sitting a bit farther away from the others "That is the Bodhi Tree, it is the tree of Desire". I walked first up to the Tree of Life, because I was raised Christian and wanted to understand the Wisdom of the Rabbis. "Tell me what you know" I asked. The rabbi smiled and said "Life is about beauty and strength, and the Wisdom to attain what life holds for us and enjoy this place of wonder" Then I went to the Tree of Knowledge, apprehensive because of its rumored dangers. "What truth do you tell wise one?" I asked. The Serpent smiled and said "What is good? If it isnt good for all, it is flawed." It frowned and said "I dont understand the Rabbis with their opinions on beauty, how can suffering be beautiful unless it brings you to your knees begging for mercy? They think they know the good, but they only know what is good for them, go ask the magicians". I went to the magicians and asked "Why are the Rabbis wrong?" The magician sneered at the rabbi sitting happily "Because no one thing can satisfy all people. It is we who have learned from the Tree of Knowledge, ours is the greatest truth." "And what is the greatest truth?" I asked. "Chaos is necessary for the growth and appreciation of life. In it all things are renewed". I thanked the magician and turned to depart, but the serpent from the Tree of Knowledge came to me. "You have not learned the greatest secret. Do you not care about causing suffering? Go learn from the Buddha." I walked up to the Buddha, confident that I had attained enlightenment. The Buddha gazed at me with sympathy. "Do you feel empowered now?" He asked. I said "Yes, I see that in order for life to move about and grow, Chaos is a necessary element." He looked down and a tear fell from his eye. "An enlightened soul understands, suffering is an Evil, and in Chaos there is great suffering." I searched my heart and knew he spoke truth, I did not want to harm people. "Tell me what I must do wise man". "You must give up Desire". And so I decided to sit under his tree and consider what I had learned.

Youre right. Something has to be watching over us, we should have destroyed ourselves by now (or been destroyed).

There are things we can know, and things we cannot know. We cannot know God, or what God intends with His actions. We cannot know if God is pure mercy, or likes to see our suffering. We cannot know what God does and why. We cannot know what Heaven is like or how to get there, though we can assume that it is by good virtue. How do we assume this? Because collectively, for our survival, it is evident that we rely upon one another, and so, to be a philanthropist of some kind should be expected, and probably rewarded, considering that much of our life we are selfish creatures, having to learn to share coming with wisdom. There is also the belief that contradicts the aforementioned theory. It is the belief that we are meant to oppose one another for our own good. This was especially the focus with Nietzsche and has been more or less backed up by secret traditions, which say that evil and good and chaos are necessary. When it comes to Gnosticism, it depends on the answer that appeals to you, because mostly it is relevant to your experience and the Age you live in what is truth. I lived a vigorous youth, reckless to some degree, and have since learned that being a powerful force can make it difficult for others, and so in my aging I have learned the value of prudence, and no longer go to extremes. Did I enjoy a wild life? Yes, I enjoyed it though it was struggle, until I fell in love and realized something more true- that love is what we yearn for in our struggling. I believe people need this to be satisfied before they can move on to anything concerning acts that involve more than the self, I believe that we need to know love first. I also believe we need to be satisfied in our talents and work.

What gets to me is the frailty of our condition, how truly vulnerable we are yet pretend not to be, leading into dangerous activity.

Thanks for that bit. I am learning to see the sweet, already been through the sour and the bitter.

Thank you for reading my post. I think we take for granted that people spend the time reading what we write and considering our thoughts. I think too, that we take for granted what we know on forums like this, things that would be so revealing to the world. I do not write for myself, though I should. I imagine a trove of writings on my death, discovered or discarded, that might bring some truth into peoples lives, but lately the truth has been silence, and I am not sure who wants that. I am not so despondent these days as when I wrote this, as the welcomer said, you find things to do and ignore some of these deeper issues. I am learning to come to terms with the fact that we are like the ocean with the tide coming in and out, and the water ever present. I just cant bring myself to contributing to what could potentially lead to illusion (making art).