Khun Paen

What is the commonly accepted location? I see some teachers that say it's directly behind the belly button. And other teachers put it 2-3 finger widths below the belly button, directly behind the lower dantian

I mean, when you take the index finger, and middle finger, and put them under the belly button to measure 1.5 cun. Do you focus into the stomach exactly at the level where your middle finger is touching. Or, do you take the index finger of your other hand, put it under the middle finger, and focus into the stomach there instead. I've seen acupuncture videos measuring 1.5 cun both of these ways.

is 1.5 cun behind the middle finger, or below it? Because behind the middle finger for me is only one inch. And I rarely see the lower dantian described as being one inch below the navel. I mostly see 1.5 or 2 inches below

Yup, some teachers teach the dantian is already there. Other teachers like adam mizner say it doesn't exist before you create it Some people put the lower dantian at the navel level, and ming men at the navel level. Some put the lower dantian below the navel, and the ming men at the navel level above the dantian. Some people put the lower dantian below the navel, and the ming men below the navel too at ren6. Confused yet? Ya I read that. But I thought it was just in the context of focusing on the lower dantian at the perineum. Not just 2-3 finger widths below the navel. Anyways, interesting idea.

After talking to a few teachers in Zhineng (arguably one of the most popular qigong styles in China) there seems to be the idea that you can cultivate the lower dantian at the navel, or below it. However, building the dantian below the navel causes an energy loss. So that's Dr Pang Mings logic behind building it at the navel center. Has anyone ever heard of this idea anywhere else?

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In Zhineng, the lower dantian is behind the navel, in the center of the body, on the taiji pole. Not toward the front like most descriptions explain it. I've also never understood why so many people teach it so close to the front of the stomach, like two finger widths behind the skin. Seems like a waste not killing two birds with one stone by visualizing it on the central channel.

Some acupuncturists put it at Ren 6 (sea of Qi). Some put it at Ren 4 (Guanyuan). And then others like the acupuncturist/TCM doctor below put it directly behind the navel. And say ren4/6 are wrong lol.

I'm researching different lineages/teachers that put the lower dantian at the navel level, instead of below it. So far I've seen Zhineng Spring forest qigong Mantak Chia The Chinese Chan monk Hsuan Hua, that founded the city of ten thousand Buddhas Alex Hui. A Chinese medicine doctor on Youtube. Anyone know any others I can add to the list? Thanks

So I just started learning this Qigong style. And all the teachers in this lineage teach the lower dantian behind the navel (not below) directly on the taiji pole. Does anyone have any quotes from Dr Pang Ming about why he chose the navel as the lower dantian instead of below it? More and more teachers/chinese medicine doctors seem to be putting the dantian at the navel these days. Curious why

Yo, whatsup guys. I did a retreat at a dhammakaya temple once. And I've learned from a few monks in the tradition. Basically, you visualize a shining sun, crystal clear sphere, or buddha image two finger widths above the navel, directly on the taiji pole. (not toward the spine, or front of the stomach, but directly in the center). Anyways, I've been a Buddhist for around 11 years now. I've practiced basically every single meditation technique in Buddhism. And this was the only technique I've ever practiced that gave me so much bliss. And in such a short period of time. When I started doing this technique, only after about 2 weeks I activated an immense bliss that radiated directly out of the spot two finger widths above my navel. It was like I just did heroin lol. It was incredible. And it wasn't from samadhi. My concentration wasn't that good. It was just from activating this spot. I don't think that it's the lower dantian. I haven't experienced anything like this from the dantian. And dhammakaya meditators usually describe seeing Buddha images, or Buddhist stuff, radiating from this center. Haven't heard anyone say that about the lower dantian. The founder Phramongkolthepmuni did say once it's the spot where the breath enters into from the two side channels, similar to the lower dantian. But I think whichever spot you focus on in the body, if you focus there long enough, you'll feel the breath energy going in and out of it. Not sure though. I've always been curious if it's creating the lower dantian at a different spot. I actually want to restart the discussion on this topic. Because this is the most powerful technique in Theravada Buddhism. When you stay at a dhammakaya temple, it's really common to hear lay people that only meditate 20 minutes a day talking about wild experiences they have while doing this technique. The results are incredibly fast. Anyone know any Taoist sects that talk about a spot two finger widths above the navel?

Can I have my name changed to Khun Paen? Thanks

Hey. Nice to meet everyone. Just signed up to ask a question on the general forum, about an energetical imbalance. Have to make a post here first