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智者弗言 - knowledge they not speak it That’s all you got, the “nonsense” is made-up. 老子 homophone 老師 lǎoshī , homophone lousy teacher.

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That’s what I wonder too https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53664-origin-of-daoism/?do=findComment&comment=982422

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Kroll mentions both intellect and emotion. Kroll 心 1. the heart, as the centre of intellectual and emotional activity 2. the centre 3. (Budd.) the mind Henricks reduces it to one aspect only. He uses the Buddhist meaning. The character used (心) is a pictograph of a physical ‘heart’.

@wandelaar you might find this interesting: Henricks used a meaning that is Buddhist.

5. 知 之 者 弗 言 zhi1 zhi1 zhe3 fu2 yan2

Kroll 心 1. the heart, as the centre of intellectual and emotional activity > 2. the centre 3. (Budd.) the mind <Kroll> 虛 < empty; unassuming, self-effacing, humble > 實 < full; honest, sincere > I think this rules out ‘pride’. Lin Yutang in his book ‘The wisdom of Laotse’, Ch 3, note 11 : “Empty-heart” in the Chinese language means “open mindedness” or “humility”, a sign of the cultured gentleman. Sometimes used to mean “passivity.” Throughout Laotse’s book, “empty” and “full” are used as meaning “humility” and “pride” respectively. Ch 3: 虛 亓 心 xu1 qi2 xin1 < empty | … > 實 亓 腹 shi2 qi2 fu4 < full; replete with | … > 虛 亓 心 xu1 qi2 xin1 Lin Yutang’s translation: He keeps empty their hearts. English has a similar idiom, ‘full of himself’. “Empty heart” 虛心 (same characters as in Ch 3 虛 亓 心 xu1 qi2 xin1). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/虛心 : modest; open minded

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Thank you very much for your kind invitation, appreciated. Might look into it in future. For now I am very happy with the Dao Bums.

Sorry about removing my posts, I can assure you they were not worth reading.

Wow, rude!

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I agree.

Enough said. See https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53632-ch-3-a-totalitarian-dark-place/?do=findComment&comment=982242

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