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I think what Pak Satrio talks about is also called 靈氣 (ling2 qi4)

What’s written there is: 道 生 一 一 生 二 二 生 三 三 生 萬 物 (ch. 42 Henricks , MWD ) Your translation merely is one of many possible interpretations.

Because I think the visible Tao is the external world; and the invisible Tao is the internal world.

I think the qi CD experiences is part of the “visible Tao” (as in CD’s DDJ ch. 1), while the qi Pak Satrio experiences is part of the “invisible Tao”.

I got in touch with qi age c. 30, I became free of qi age c. 60. Imo qi is breaking into the conscious of repressed sexual energy. A person that had not repressed anything, would never experience qi.

In Aikido (kanji 合気道) the 合 represents a pot and lid above it that fits nicely i.e. not too much steam, just the right amount of qi.

In Chinese Taoist inner alchemy, the concepts of Kan (坎) and Li (離)relate to a spiritual "steaming" process. This practice involves reversing the natural flow of the body's water (Kan) and fire (Li) elements to cultivate vital energy and promote health.

Aikido (kanji 合気道) from (Chinese han4 zi4) 合 氣 道 (he2 qi4 dao4) join qi method

氣 represented steam rising from a pot of cooking rice, symbolizing qi

welcome

I respect your wide knowledge on the subject. I will leave it at this.

Each to his own. I prefer to go with the info provided by Sinologist paleographers.

推拿 (tui2 na3) Tui Na , Chinese medical massage [not to be confused with 吐纳 (tu3 na4) qigong breathing] Idk. I will just translate 氣 (qi4) as ‘qi’ , then everyone can make up their own minds. I think qi is one’s sexuality, healthy sexuality balances yin and yang (dare I say it ) energies.

Could you please give the title and author of the book?

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The idea of an East-West dichotomy imo is a leftover from colonialism (differentiate to feel superior). The more I learn to read Chinese, the more I see there is no difference at all at the core.

Why not ask so yourself?

Hi and welcome. Posting can make one realise one is a fool oneself, and that’s where learning starts.

Possibly it"s being confused with the Christian concept that living requires a soul to animate the material body.

You’re the only Chinese speaking person active on the forum, as such you are our biggest treasure. This forum has a history of banning Chinese speakers (e.g. Awaken). I think some don’t like to hear anything that interferes with their cosy Westernised interpretation of Chinese culture. I think some slavishly belief what their Chinese teacher says, merely because he is Chinese; hearing another Chinese person have different views, that’s too challenging.

Indeed. And as long as the ego has not been cleared, one cannot know about the Spirit Self.

@ChiDragon no need to.

I am only a ‘quarter Taoist’.

Life is simple, it’s just not easy.

all systems come down to that, integrating 性 sexuality & 命 morality