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No. I had no idea.

I do not trol. Never ever.

This quote is from DDJ ch. 77 . Imo ch. 77 was not part of the DDJ but later inserted as a commentary. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/56137-ddj-ch-70-81-a-later-addition/?do=findComment&comment=1039255

I am not a troll. I genuinely think CD has taken his system to the pinnacle. Kudos to him. I respect him for that, although there is almost no overlap in opinions. And it is my experience, as an RC mystic, that at the pinnacle one is without human company.

I second that.

‘names’ is a mistranslation. 正名 (zheng4 ming2) rectification of morals (名 had various meanings at the time, including ‘morals’)

When one gets to an advanced level, it gets lonely at the top.

CD is not a troll, he is very genuine always. And his views are based on a lifetime of serious study and practice. All this agitation about a different opinion - should make you think about your own prejudices. If this was the case, it would be of the utmost importance to study CD's view - forewarned is forearmed. I second that.

Creativity is taking ideas from others and doing your own thing with it. Two pieces of mine are in an exposition at the moment. I don’t work in a vacuum, I absorb the surrounding culture.

duh

I will leave it at this.

I think all “grokking” is done internally, that’s what I call the internal world; it’s not a separate physical world.

Thanks for clarifying that (It’s on the page you posted https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/57604-the-practice-of-neidan內丹/?do=findComment&comment=1068928)

I think what Pak Satrio talks about is also called 靈氣 (ling2 qi4)

What’s written there is: 道 生 一 一 生 二 二 生 三 三 生 萬 物 (ch. 42 Henricks , MWD ) Your translation merely is one of many possible interpretations.

Because I think the visible Tao is the external world; and the invisible Tao is the internal world.

I think the qi CD experiences is part of the “visible Tao” (as in CD’s DDJ ch. 1), while the qi Pak Satrio experiences is part of the “invisible Tao”.

I got in touch with qi age c. 30, I became free of qi age c. 60. Imo qi is breaking into the conscious of repressed sexual energy. A person that had not repressed anything, would never experience qi.

In Aikido (kanji 合気道) the 合 represents a pot and lid above it that fits nicely i.e. not too much steam, just the right amount of qi.

In Chinese Taoist inner alchemy, the concepts of Kan (坎) and Li (離)relate to a spiritual "steaming" process. This practice involves reversing the natural flow of the body's water (Kan) and fire (Li) elements to cultivate vital energy and promote health.

Aikido (kanji 合気道) from (Chinese han4 zi4) 合 氣 道 (he2 qi4 dao4) join qi method

氣 represented steam rising from a pot of cooking rice, symbolizing qi

welcome

I respect your wide knowledge on the subject. I will leave it at this.

Each to his own. I prefer to go with the info provided by Sinologist paleographers.