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The ‘Boxer Rebellion’ used martial arts, they believed they were immortal. From the sorry ending, the Chinese people realised the ‘magic’ was just vaudeville. (according to my Chinese teacher)

The OP makes no sense to me. Is it supposed to be a joke? The rule is imo fine as it is.

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It’s good to laugh. Martial arts has roots in on stage acting, similar to what we would call vaudeville. (according to my Chinese teacher)

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(My highlight) You present your own opinions as facts.

This has happened to me many times. Eventually subsided.

~~~<>~~~ 返 fan3 ~~~<>~~~ I prefer to use 返 as it narrows down the possible meaning. 返 is interchangeable with 反 only in the meaning of 反 2. turn back, reverse, go back, revert, return; repeat, do again. (Kroll page 106)

Dao cannot be put in words (start Ch. 1); Ch. 40, lines 1. and 2. are Laozi’s opinion. 也者 “… in sentences where speakers offer their own interpretations of a concept, 也者 rather than only 者 can also be used after the subject., http://sinoglot.com/2010/04/the-differences-between-也者-者-and-者也/ Guodian: 1. 反也者道之動 2. 弱也者道之用 1. Reaction is imo Tao's action. 2. Weakness is imo Tao's function.* Wang Bi: 1. 反 者道之動 2. 弱 者道之用 1. Reaction is Tao's action. 2. Weakness is Tao's function. ~~~ * other characters CD translation ; I’m only interested in 也者 here.

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I prefer to see Ch. 1 as the start of the DDJ. Various arguments (Henricks xvi-xvii), I favour the “result of packaging” idea; also Ch. 1 (MWD A) starts with a black dot; Ch. 38 does not.

I think so yes. Awaken (now banned) said that at the time of writing of the DDJ, it was customary to start a piece of text with what’s most important; and typically they would start with the conclusion, only after that came the arguments.

And Ch. 40 is much shorter than most of the other chapters; it might originally not have been a separate chapter. Ch. 40 (Henricks MWD) does not start with a black dot. See Henricks page xvii, re. black dots.

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~~~<>~~~ Re. 于/於 ~~~<>~~~ I prefer to use 於 。 Kroll pages 566 and 567, “cognate yu2 于/於 in, at, from, to, on, with regard to, etc. N.B. From the Warring states period on 于 yu2 and 於 yu2 are generally interchangeable, …; prior to the Warring states period they are not equivalent to each other.” Warring states period 475 - 221BC The Guodian is dated approximately 300 BC Imo the picture on the bamboo looks more like 於 http://www.daoisopen.com/A18toA20Chapters44409.html ~~~<>~~~ Re. 无/無 ~~~<>~~~ They’re not different: The picture on the bamboo is 亡 wang2 http://www.daoisopen.com/A18toA20Chapters44409.html ~~~<>~~~ Re. 有 ~~~<>~~~ Yes. Kroll page 565, 有 3. what there is, what exists; actuality; something.

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