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You’re right, I looked it up: modifiers, such as adjectives and adverbs, precede the word they modify. I removed my posts. I had this in mind: 道善 - the way is good. I looked it up (Bryan Van Norden, ‘Classical Chinese for Everyone’, page 46); my mistake, that’s not an adjective, that’s noun + stative verb.

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You totally failed to get my point. I’m leaving this thread now. Be well.

@Daniel You failed to get my point: You are arguing with ‘stirling’ while actually there is no argument, you are talking about different things.

That depends on which team you’re on (Daoist or Buddhist).

The same goes for the concept 無為 wu2 wei2 - wuwei. This too is also used by Chinese Buddhist. So again ‘stirling’ (within his tradition) probably is right in what he says . 無為 originated (around Laozi time) in Legalism.

In China ‘Dao’ is not exclusively used for the Laozi Dao. Kroll dictionary listings for 道 dao: 2. … conceptual term used by all schools of thought, with same root metaphor but varying connotations: Confucian ‘Way’ incl. norms of social responsibility and personal conduct exemplified by ideal worthies such as King Wen of the Zhou, the Duke of Zhou, etc.; Dao. ‘Way’ points to absolute and ineffable reality behind flux and modalities of the world, and advisability of taking it as model; Budd. ‘Way’ incl. possibility of release from the round-of-birth-and-death (samsara) and recognition of contingent and impermanent nature of human existence.

Daoism as Laozi stuff, then yes. But in China ‘daoism’ can also refer to Buddhism, and then what ’stirling’ says probably applies. It can also refer to Confucianism, ‘Zongyongdaoist’ would probably know what it means there.

I was sorry to read this, for purely selfish reasons. You gave me some excellent feedback as a mod, which has been very useful to me in my life. But of course you have to do what’s best for you in this. Thank you Steve, for all the good work. Wishing you well.

This is 觀音 guan1 yin1, Bodhisattva of compassion, of Chinese Buddhism. She holds a bottle of water in the left hand, and middle finger and thumb of the right hand hold a willow tree branch. Guan Yin originated in India as Avalokiteshvara, the male bodhisattva of compassion. He was introduced as a male deity, early centuries AD. Later on he became androgynous, and by the eighth century had become female in China. This change because he merged with the indigenous Goddess 西王母 xi1 wang2 mu3, Queen Mother of the West. As Mahayana Buddhism began to filter into China from the 1st century CE, Taoist deities were co-opted into Buddhism.

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