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“People who need people, Are the luckiest people in the world We're children, needing other children And yet letting a grown-up pride Hide all the need inside Acting more like children than children …” (Bob Merrill)

Just not so “open minded” that your brain falls out. (Richard Feynman)

Hi Tianzun. Welcome to the forum.

Hi Insta. Great, that’s the spirit. Looking forward to your comments. Welcome to the forum.

Yippee, now I know something for sure

I might be glad too, just 2 questions first: What is “carrying method”? What is “transfer method”?

Chu - Daoism Qin - Legalism Han - Buddhism/Confucianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Gate_Taoism ~~~ the end of the Han Dynasty In AD 184, plague spread throughout China. Thousands of people were cured after drinking Zhang's ash water. He sent 8 major missionaries and his followers covered around 2/3 of China. They then became the major army of the Yellow Turban Rebellion. This rebellion led to the end of the Han Dynasty. “

esoteric Daoism In ‘esoteric’ Daoism, the DDJ is considered a manual for ‘alchemy’, and assumed to contain lots of hidden clues. The literal meaning of the characters in the text is in this view often not what it’s about, so the dictionary definition is irrelevant to them.

@Master Logray very informative, thank you very much.

Hi Delta_Wave. Welcome to the forum.

Righto. Thanks for elucidating.

Wow, looks very impressive. Unfortunately my Spanish is insufficient to understand any of it.

Thank you very much for the info. You say, “drawing Chi around”, could you please describe what “Chi” means according to you?

Thank you very much for the quote. You really must post more! @awaken seems the Buddha did teach breathing: Ānāpānasati (Pali; Sanskrit ānāpānasmṛti), meaning "mindfulness of breathing" ("sati" means mindfulness; "ānāpāna" refers to inhalation and exhalation[1]), paying attention to the breath. It is the quintessential form of Buddhist meditation, attributed to Gautama Buddha, and described in several suttas, most notably the Ānāpānasati Sutta (MN 118).[note 1] Derivations of anāpānasati are common to Tibetan, Zen, Tiantai and Theravada Buddhism as well as Western-based mindfulness programs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anapanasati @ChiDragon the above quoted “ānāpāna" refers to inhalation and exhalation”, this seems to me to be exactly what’s now called 吐纳 tu3 na4. @awaken could it be the qigong special exercises are based in Daoyin, and the qigong breathing was added to it later by Bodidharma?

No, you “need” not imo. You bring good info, I did not know re this sutra; thank you. Could you post a relevant quote please?

A knife can be used for good (surgery) or evil (murder). Imo best not to give a knife (science) to a child (humanity).

How come Bodhidharma taugth breathing if the Buddha did not teach it? ~~~ 佛陀 - Buddha fó tuó bù jiào hū xī ， fó tuó jiào de shì zhù yì lì de shǐ yòng fāng shì

Why do you think 氣功 (qi4 gong1) equals 導引 (dao3 yin3)? ~~~ qì gōng zài huáng dì nèi jīng chen4 wéi dǎo yǐn

Hi Alexa. Welcome to the forum.

Deleted. Thought better of it.

Religious persecution by a Taoist emperor. “Emperor Wuzong of Tang (814–846) indulged in indiscriminate religious persecution, solving a financial crisis by seizing the property of Buddhist monasteries. Buddhism had developed into a major religious force in China during the Tang period, and its monasteries had tax-exempt status. Wuzong closed many Buddhist shrines, confiscated their property, and sent the monks and nuns home to lay life. Apart from economic reasons, Wuzong's motivation was also philosophical or ideological. As a zealous Taoist, he considered Buddhism a foreign religion that was harmful to Chinese society. He went after other foreign religions as well, all but eradicating Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism in China, and his persecution of the growing Nestorian Christian churches sent Chinese Christianity into a decline from which it never recovered.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

Everyone is free to believe whatever they want, knock yourself out! Just keep in mind that what you believe is not necessarily reality.

Hi Galactic Traveler. Peace to you too.

@ChiDragon is there anything known about the earliest roots of qigong? Or do you think the Shaolin monks invented it?

Yeah, that’s how it often goes, people will take an ancient art and do something else entirely with it.