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Yes I agree, I always use the Guodian script if available. Most academics assume the Guodian script found is an incomplete script. This is a list of the chapters that are (according to Henricks) in the modern Laozi but not in the Guodian: 1,3-4,6-8,10-12,14,21-24,26-29,33-34,36,38-39,42-43,47,49-51,53,58,60-62,65,67-81 In all the Guodian does only have 31 of the modern chapters. Do you really think that none of the 50 chapters left out are part of the Laozi?

Lol, it was torturously longwinded but I listened to the whole thing. And I have to say, the young “whippersnapper” has his heart in the right place. E.g. - keep “nuance” in opinions - re personal problems: find the root inside yourself - exercise, then use the stronger physique not to dominate but to protect & provide

Not me. Possibly @Pak_Satrio or @Vajra Fist can.

No need to apologise. You do you.

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I have been reading the DDJ since 1972. I have no interest in the Zhuangzi.

I look up the possible meanings of each character in the Kroll. Then see which choices make a coherent whole of a chapter.

Hi Stars. My advice: best to leave practice till you are much older. Welcome to the forum.

Great you study Classical Chinese as a hobby, so do I. Welcome to the forum.

Hi Philippa. Welcome to the forum.

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Then there are the Uyghurs Muslims. I only know what I read online, so may not be true. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

Should we stage an intervention?

Hi muscidae. Great you know Chinese, I look forward to hear your views. Welcome to the forum.

“You’re not an adult at all - you're just a tall child holding a beer, having conversations you don't understand...” (Dylan Moran)

I prefer pinyin. I think the same applies to the Laozi.

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Deleted, changed my mind on this.

Sarcasm, conveying contempt, imo used by people that feel insecure.

I would agree. Hi be48. Welcome to the forum.

@ChiDragon

Hi Christopher. Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the link. Very interesting indeed. … I interpret the large bird Of a Flock (Chapter 1.1) to be a metaphor for awareness, … Wonderful to see you give the characters. Your explanation makes sense to me. I think you’re onto something. … No native Chinese scholar has ever interpreted Of a Flock in this way. (For that matter, no Western scholar has either.) They all just copy the received translation, because to really read it (like you did) takes too much time. Kudos to you. ”We translators, Chinese and English alike, are on equal ground here. We are archaeologists doing the best we can, as studiously as we can, to recreate a lost world. I like the way you explained why you think so. And I agree. Great to have you on board.