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That explains a lot, you just didn’t have the time to learn about neidan!

Yes I know as I have experienced it.

They knew next to nothing about the body, e.g. for about a thousand years, they were poisoning it with mercury and lead.

Yes, I remember you said similar before in this thread: I have found the ‘inner child’ a very helpful concept in healing. Also integrating male and female aspects of self, I have found very helpful. I mainly used the chakra system. These things are all mental constructs that become superfluous when healing has been completed.

Righto, no info; then I will have to fantasise. Conceivably in primordial times, people thought the stomach of a woman of itself just swells up and a birth follows. Taboos around birthing, top secret. But someone made a big discovery, the role of men in this and how long gestation is. He wrote it all down: The Complete Reality First there is the elixer (semen). After that the embryo starts in the dantien (stomach). After 10 months the embryo is ready. Then it leaves the body and can travel the world. As these things go, other people took his writing to be metaphorical and read a great many things into it.

Those who know don't talk about it; 知 之 者 弗 言 zhī zhī zhě fú yán those who talk don't know it. 言 之 者 弗 知 yán zhī zhě fú zhī (Start DDJ Ch 56, Guodian, Henricks)

“people” … hmm … that would include me. An egg telling a bird how to fly. This egg is rather hegemonistic. @MetaDao has it occurred to you other people are other people with other requirements? If I learned one thing in my life, it was to not waste time on the sort of teachers you are talking about.

Righto. @Taoist Texts what comes first, the elixer or the embryo?

Thanks for elucidating.

Righto. So what is the pivotal difference?

Truly admirable.

@Taoist Texts Your respond made me laugh. Thanks for your reply. Is ‘embryo’ another name for ‘elixer’?

Hi Archi. Welcome to the forum. Sounds alarming re spine, hope you are doing alright regardless.

Does it have anything to do with the ‘inner child’, as in

Hi SHeretic. Welcome to the forum.

Us and Them. And after all … we're only ordinary men

Mr Khokhlov Mr Cock-love Sometimes con artists on purpose aren’t very subtle. The idea is to weed out all the people with half a brain, and be left only with people that can be easily exploited.

@Taoist Texts Hmm … So you are making unfalsifiable claims. Cheap. ‘Females’ can have a child, very important for the survival of the tribe. The idea of ‘males’ usurping the reproductive function in a mystical way? Imo it is bollocks made up by very immature men.

So we get: 夫道以无心为体 … the essence of Dao is to have no “thoughts and emotions” Ridiculous. Pathetic.

In this context, please tell: What is a ''pearl''? As in What is an ''embryo''? As in What is a "heart"? As in

Hi Dan. Welcome to the forum.

If you can remember it, you weren’t really there.

Admirable indeed. How did you learn to read the characters?

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