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Thanks for sharing your 2 cents @Shakti Abby

Thanks for your response and positive feedback! There were 3 major milestones in my own journey, that gave me a lot of relief: Purify And Protect Yourself and Your Home (sufi method) 1) Sufi mantras (11x ayatul kursi, 11x surah nas, 11x surah ikhlas, 11x surah falaq, 11x surah kafiroon to form protective circle around the home, then 11x ayatul kursi to form protective circle around particular person, 21x ayatul kursi blow on water and sprinkle in house). Do daily. Protect Yourself, Strike Back (sufi method) 2) Sufi amal/wazifa (like a prayoga or kriya), Surah Ta-Ha ayat 68-69 "qulna la takhaf innaka anta'l a'laa...." said 100x each night before sleep, blow on the affected person 3x then make du'a for healing and protection, continue for at least 21 days in row without fail. Complete Self Healing, Self Protection and Stoppage (stambhanam) (hindu method, Varahi Devi) 3) Varahi Tarpanam, Puja and Homam complete stopped everything for us. The 41 day mandala invited some real challenges, especially around the 21 day and 29 day mark (negative energy try to stop you), but we kept going and suceeded in the end and found great relief. After this everything stopped permanently. Help from the outside is awesome, but for me I felt the universe gave me a big signal that I should also increase my own spiritual practice to always keep my protection strong. First step, work with yourself practically (do good deeds, avoid anything negative) So first tips would be for both you and your sister and her family to make sure you avoid all kind of sin that could attract negative energy; e.g. conceal your blessings to avoid jealousy, abstain from meat and alcohol, don't commit any sin, respect elders, don't backbite, do any kind of negative thoughts, words or deeds, make sure all your affairs are 100% in order, nothing illegal, concealed etc. forgive each other in family, maintain family harmony, be good to each other and so on. Second Step, daily spiritual work, personal connection with the Divine When that's done second tip is for all involved to level up their daily spiritual practice ; ideally we should all set aside some time daily to connect with our Creator, be grateful, pray, and also cry when we're helpless and ask for help and protection, cultivate that personal connection, love and humility as much as possible. Third step, help from outside Then third tip is to get extra help from the outside when faced with grave spiritual issue. In that regard I give some suggestions below: If you're open to sufism, you can contact brotherrahman.net - he's very heartful and sweet, very helpful, give you a lot of rituals for free on his site, gives free advice via email. If you study with him, he really helps you and does rituals and mantras for you. Depending on your budget he can be both very economical all the way to quite costly. Sometimes he has a bit of mood swings, temper and can be a bit grumpy, but it's usually just 2-3 days, but no matter what he always helps. Otherwise for Varahi, I didn't get anyone to do homa or anything, we did on our own (after we got sri vidya mantra diksha from Karunamaya at the time, later Devipuram also) I know Karunamaya is in UK right now, but I don't think he really does things like that (help individuals out), he's mostly about getting followers who complete all his modules, work for his organisation and build his peetham in India. You can give it a go, but he's usually quite inflexible and not that easy to talk to person-to-person. Lastly there is a very expensive guru in India, he has solid energy, if you pay, he gives (e.g. give mantra diksha, do yagnya or puja for you etc), but as soon as he has done the thing you paid for, he's still very quick to respond on whats'app, but he's very slow to do any related task (e.g. send yantras, malas, kavach etc). But you will feel his energy, he has done very solid sadhana, even quite non-trained people here in Europe felt energy 2-3 days before his yagnya, on the day of his yagnya, and were pretty spiritually impacted for months after. So he has a lot of powerful energy. I can share his contact privately with you if you want, just be warned he's pretty expensive. Let me know: 1) What makes you think they're suffering from black magic? 2) How would you like to proceed from here? (vis-a-vis all I wrote above)

Hey @Luharj, Thanks for your message Yes of course! What's your ethnic and/or religious background? Just trying to see who could be a good match

Dear Dao Bums, Has anyone here on the forum done SFQ level 5? I remember looking at it many years ago, where it boasted of secrets of connecting with ancestors, prolonging life, increasing jing and longevity, supercharging lower dan tien and kidneys for vitality, rainbow energy bone marrow cleansing, opening all spiritual senses and much more. In the commercial films from the retreat people were meditating in front of a large lake, with Chunyi Lin empowering each one-by-one using sword finger to their 3rd eye. When I look at the official page today, it's much more modest in its claims; now it's called "beyond qi" and talks about "advanced qigong", "advanced tian mu", "opening spiritual senses", "increasing healing power". However, I still would love to go for a sense of completion, having done SFQ level 1-4, and having used his qigong and meditation for many 49 day cycles, having had several very expensive one-on-one sessions with him, as well as healed maybe 20-25 people using his system. I always get a deep sense of personal satisfaction and delight when completing something, and taking level 5 would give me that. Further, it would of course also be super interesting to sample and experience first hand the "qi menu" offered (the tian mu and spiritual senses methods). So, looking for experiences here; anyone ever attended? If yes, what was your experience? God bless you

Update I've since this post explored more regarding yakshini sadhana. I will say that if you get diksha from a true guru or gurvi, and you follow the guru's instructions, there's no danger involved in yakshini sadhana whatsoever. As long as your intention is pure, of course, as well as your general energy and the way you live your life. Further, I will update and correct what I said about how easy it is to get siddhi. I've managed to read very small bits of Udameshvara Tantra, and the general mantras and prescriptions for yakshini sadhana found online are NOT the ones given in Udameshvara Tantra, even if the online page list this Tantra as source. For instance in the case of Kapalini Yakshini, you will actually need a guru to get you a Kapal, the actual skull of a deceased Human Being. I nearly fell from my chair when the Indian-based guru I spoke to suggested this to me. Further, the Kapal Siddhi Kapalini Yakshini gives is not just lucid dreaming, it transforms the Human Skull to a kind of portal to other worlds - you can communicate with deceased people, you can contact yogis, you can reach any astral being and you can also see the past and future. Regarding Sulochana Yakshini, you need to wear red and say 300.000 mantras on a river bank, only after completing that will you offer the 30.000 mantras into the fire (also on the river bank). Then she will present you with Paduka Siddhi or Seven League Boots, that will allow you to traverse the Akash, aka astral travel. Plus the mantra itself is different from what you can find online. Two pics of Sulochana Yakshini, wearing red, 2 arms, one holding a red rose for love, health, energy and vitality, and one holding the golden padukas (in some versions these carry wings, like Hermes in Disney's Hercules movie). The other pic there are 6 yakshinis present in the background and herself in the foreground, symbolizing that she energizes all 7 chakras in your astral body.

Hey @centertime, Bija mantras are like "basic building blocks" of energy. So yes, repeating the bija mantra of a chakra will activate the energy of that chakra. Bija means seed, it's the seed level of energy. E.g. 100.000 reps of "lam" will energize your root chakra. However, deity mantras do more than just that. On top of unblocking your chakra, the effect of repeating the mantra will fructify a whole host of benefits in your material and spiritual life. A deity is a living being. So bija is a seed in potential, latent and unexpressed form, deity is a full grown, living tree continously bearing a wide variety of sweet and nourishing fruits.

If you're from the first world with a high school education / upper secondary level education, you should be able to manage. I've been in contact with 3 Sri Vidya teachings so far: 1) Karunamaya, 2) Devipuram (same lineage as Karunamaya, actually Devipuram was founded by Karunamaya's Guru), 3) Sri Vidya Tantra Peedom (different lineage, south India). The materials from Devipuram were prepared by western people who are also western educated. They must have had a degree in design or something similar, the materials are of exceptional quality. Super clear, beautiful and well-structured. Similar to what you would read from a professional academic in the West - illustrations, set-up, mini-explanations, color-coding, the whole she-bang. Any person could pick them up and follow them - they're that good. The materials from Karunamaya are (sorry to say) quite poor. Without the oral explanations and visual demonstrations, you will most likely not be able to just pick them up and do the rituals. However, of course, if you do the online workshops, you can (with some strain). Sri Vidya Tantra Peedom are somewhere in between - pretty clear in explanations, however they usually don't provide materials for everything - only sometimes. They give the explanations, but it's usually up to you to take notes. If you follow the classes and actually practice what is taught, you will pick it up. If you're looking to start Sri Vidya, here are my pros and cons for learning from each: Karunamaya Pros Quite frequent online workshops Cons Indian-ly strict, not that friendly, loving, understanding nor compassionate from a westerner's viewpoint of a Guru Little bit expensive Mid to low-level quality of materials Cannot really be personally contacted and have one-on-one dialogue for guidance etc Mostly looking for donations, building his organisation and personal brand, increasing number of followers and making a name for himself Devipuram Pros Exceptional materials Guru Amritananda (even though passed away physically or in "maha-samadhi") is very high caliber spiritually When you connect with his energy it's very noticeable and really helps your sadhana Just 3 levels to get all dikshas and rituals The 3D Meru specifically designed by Guru Amritananda is really good and beautiful to use for puja and for meditation First level is free and online If you travel to the physical site, you can connect with the energy of a 3D Sri Yantra (Devipuram IS a Sri Yantra) Level 2 and 3 on site is exceptionally fairly priced, even though of course you will have to physically travel there Their live teaching is also very good - well-structured, evenly spaced with breaks, focus on hands-on training alongside theory, very good and friendly community - you can feel they're well-educated and used to westerners. Cons Don't host programs that frequently, so you have to be patient You can't really have a one-on-one personal relationship with anyone for on-going guidance in your sadhana, it's all somewhat mechanical teaching-wise "this is the program our guru set up, this is what we teach, nothing more, nothing less" and no space for a personal guru you can talk to, cry with, get guidance and reassurance Doesn't focus on occult skills or practical applications (prayogas) - everything is a clear-cut system you simply follow in a bhakti (devotional) manner Sri Vidya Tantra Peedom Pros Good technical explanations FREE 1 year program including initiations Can be completed online Focus on occult skills and practical applications (prayogas) Cons Depending on where you live it can more or less difficult time-zone-wise for the online courses You need to be very mindful in how you personally interact with the guru - the pro is that you can indeed contact him directly (whatsapp), however in 90% of cases he will wave you away with standard copy/paste responses - which can be very frustrating. However, every once in a while he gives pretty good and helpful personal feedback - he might even do a prayoga to help you with your issues. I felt this the first or second time I contacted him - he gave a pretty good, helpful and heartful personal response, and after a little while I felt a Narasimha energy come over me (which was an energy we discussed could help me with my issue, however I am not yet initiated in it, and as I live in western country there are no temples to go to). So I felt he did some small Narasimha prayoga and sent me the energy, which I thought was super nice and helpful. So with these high hopes I've contacted him once or twice more (over maybe 1-2 months), however all the other times he waved me away or semi-insulted me. So that was kind of a bummer. I think it depends on whether you get him on a "good day". But compared to the others, at least the possibility of personal contact and help is there, which it is not at all with the others. Wrap Up Depending on your personality and likes/dislikes, I would most likely recommend you not to start with Karunamaya, but opt for either Devipuram or Sri Vidya Tantra Peedom. If you like low-risk high reward, I would recommend you to simply sign up for the free 1 year program starting next month: you can see the 2 posters at the end of this post https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/56087-update-new-experiences-of-sri-vidya/ Then you can try it out and see if you feel it will be worth the wait to do Devipurams 3 levels (1 level online, 2 on-site). All the best! Sri Matre Namaha

Dear Dao Bums, Many of you might have read my former posts on Sri Vidya. I've since continued my journey. As always I'm looking for deepening as well as adventure. My adventures have led me to test out new avenues in Sri Vidya, namely occult spiritual skills. I've learnt one skill I'm now experimenting with, and am in the process of learning a second. This post will contain 3 parts: 1) Occult Spiritual Diagnosis Using The Goddes Bhadrakali 2) Occult Spiritual Protection As Well As Removing Negative Energy Forms 3) Continued Scope Of Occult Skills In Sri Vidya (Including Nagas or Snakegods) 1) Occult Spiritual Diagnosis Using The Goddes Bhadrakali I've spent now nearly 6 months learning this. First you get a Bhadrakali mantra initiation. Then you do daily mantra japa for some months. When ready you purchase a vamavarti shankha (left-hand natural conch). You then do prana-pratistha (infusing it with life force and Kali energy) on that conch for 8 days; 1 day with a big ceremony (2-3 hours), then 7 days with a smaller daily ceremony (about 1 hour). After having established a connection with Bhadrakali through mantra diksha and mantra japa, and then using this connection to do prana-pratishta on a natural conch, you're ready. There's a whole Kerala tantric system of using it. You simply need the conch, red flowers and a 5 wick diya (lamp). You can use it to get guidance and direction for life questions. You can use it to identify energy blocks holding you back (in money, health, love, sex, spirituality, any field), as well as get instant answers for which energy forms to use to remove those blocks (whether it's black magic, evil eye, evil spirits or a relationship issue). So far I've used it for myself, my wife and my wife's sister. Me and my wife asked it different questions, yet we both had the same energy block! That's was a huge shocker, as probability-wise the chances of getting the same answer using the conch is exceptionally small. So that means we've both been touched by a similar negative energy, it was the energy of a deceased person, who had been a great tamasic yogi during his life. However, we got different remedies to do. It's was super hard to go through with, but we managed. For my wife, we went back to the conch after doing her remedy for 3 days to check if it was fully cleared. However, only a layer of the block was cleared. The next layer was a different energy related to relationships. So she was directed to re-connect with 2 of her girlfriends. After doing that for 2 days, we checked again. This time the block was fully gone. She then asked about whether there was any energy block in another area of her life, but there wasn't. So she was all clear to move forward in a normal way. In my case I had to get a specific Rudra mantra. I will detail this in the next section. For my wife's sister's case, she asked whether she had an energetic block in her aura regarding finances. She got a yes. We then asked the nature of the block, it was something called "murti dosha". I was shocked when we got it. My wife and her sister were raised muslim, and murti means an idol. Murti dosha is when you daily and in a disciplined manner pray to a specific energy. You ask it for help, and in exchange for your dedicated worship, it helps you out. Murti dosha is when you suddenly and abruptly stop connecting to that energy, and the energy form gets offended. So I had to interview her a little bit "did you ever pray diligently to a specific energy form, asking it for help often, and making promises in return for that help?" - to my great surprise she said yes. I then asked her "did you then suddenly and abruptly stop connecting with it daily, and just leave it, even though it helped you, and you promised to give something in return, yet you didn't?" Again to my great surprise, she said yes. I was shocked, it didn't make any sense. No muslim prays to an idol. We then found the remedy for her, which was a specific Surah of the Qur'an she should recite 7x daily for 7 days to counter the block. After the reading ended, I asked her: "what energy form were you diligently praying to? And what did it give you, and what did you promise in return that you didn't deliver?". She explained that in a certain period of her life she was hospitalised and things were very bad. She then did diligent salah (muslim ritual prayer) and du'a (supplication or what we would normally call a prayer) to Allah, stating that if Allah helped heal her and get her out, she would always pray. Turns out she got well, yet after she was released she stopped doing salah and did other new age spiritual things instead. So the "murti" she had offended was Allah, who is a faceless and formless Divine Energy. I was really surprised and kind of shocked. But it made sense in some way. She had made a promise in exchange for getting well. She got well, yet she didn't deliver her part of the deal. It's really mind blowing what Kali can tell you through these rituals. Now for the next section. 2) Occult Spiritual Protection As Well As Removing Negative Energy Forms This is a 2 month training where mantras of Tvarita Rudra as well as Aghora Rudra are given. You also get Kavach as well as prayogas for using these mantras in occult ways. There are 3 modes: creation and the energy of sattva (the god Brahma), sustaining and the energy of rajas (Vishnu) and destruction and the energy of tamas (Shiva). Shiva takes many forms, again in 3 modes sattva, rajas and tamas. Rudra is Shiva's tamasic forms. So Rudra is the destructive energy (tamas), of the destructive energy (Shiva). I was told by Kali that Tvarita Rudra (meaning SWIFT Rudra) would help alleviate my personal energy block. I just got the mantra a few days ago and have been saying it all the time. So today I checked with Kali if it was enough and whether my energy block was cleared, to my great surprise I got a yes! Tvarita Rudra is indeed swift! Later in this course Aghora Rudra (Fearless Rudra) which is a very aggresive form of Shiva will be taught, Kavach which is an occult shield or armour of mantras will be taught, and finally prayogas or means of using these energies for protection and removing negative energy forms from yourself, others as well as places will be taught. Will keep you updated how it goes! 3) Continued Scope Of Occult Skills In Sri Vidya (Including Nagas or Snakegods) After experiencing succes with these occult skills, I've decided to learn more from this Kerala based Sri Vidya system. The next class is a yearlong free class: one is on Sri Vidya, the other is on Nagatantra. I'm very interested to connect with this specific lineage, as it seems it's a bit different from the other lineage I've been in. Karunamaya and Amritananda of Devipuram are more bhakti focused; simply do the rituals and daily japa to clear your karma, connect with Divine energy and in the end get spiritual liberation (moksha). So far it seems of course Moksha is also the final end goal, however this Kerala based school has also maintained a lot of its occult practices and skills (e.g. Bhadrakali conch spiritual diagnosis as well as Rudra for spiritual protection and removing negative energy). Further, I've for many years been curiously interested in understanding what all this "snake" business is. In South America they had snake gods, the vikings had the Midgårdsorm, there are many snake gods in Africa, there are snakes around Hermes' staff which to this stay still symbolises healing and the medical profession. In India, Nepal and Tibet they speak of Nagas, and in China they of course have the flying Dragons. The strongest and most powerful qigong I've ever learnt was Wu Long Gong or 5 Dragon Qigong from the Dragon Gate Lineage through Master Zhongxian Wu. Further, the Kundalini force is also symbolically depicted as a snake, and the most powerful meditation I ever learnt was Simplified Kundalini Yoga (SKY) by Vethathiri Maharishi. The young Guru from Kerala specifically says that Naga Tantra is exceptional for health and healing, so it's seem there's a connect with global snake cults (South America, Africa, Scandinavia, India and China) and health, power and healing (qigong, kundalini and now Naga Tantra). I'll keep you posted how it goes! If any of you are interested, here are the sign up posters for both of these 1 year long free online trainings.

Hey @snowymountains, thanks for sharing Very interesting stories indeed! I deeply appreciate the nuance, one story from "each side" of the question (it's psychological vs it's demonical). Super interesting. Seeing is believing! I didn't believe in any of these things and viewed it as complete superstition until it all happened to me. Luckily most of us don't have to go through these kind of dark experiences, hallelujah

Hey @Chang dao ling, he does come to India every now and then. Also sometimes Nepal and Bhutan. You can check out his tourplan here https://tulkulobsang.org/en/tourplan

Hey @Pyramidalcow, thanks for sharing your interesting perspective and curiosity. 1) There are indeed living traditions of exorcisms being done among the different Christian denominations. However, simply being religious or reading from a holy book is one thing, seeing and dealing effectively with the unseen world is completely different. It requires specific training over a long period of time to be effective. Just like knowing how to drive a car and having your driver's license is great, but rally racing is a completely different level. If a normal untrained person attempted to do a rally race at similar speed to the others, at best he would fail, at worst he would severely hurt himself or even die. 2) Yes, it's true that celebrities and influencers have a lot of people focusing on them, including negative attention. Many of them are also incredibly rich, just like you mentioned. However, interestingly, many celebrites are also incredibly miserable. They kill themselves, self-isolate, have severe drug and alcohol addictions, in and out of rehab, divorce here and there, affairs, marriage-hopping etc. Will Smith was seen to be a happy, healthy and well-liked celebrity for many years - then he slapped Chris Rock. A normal person wouldn't do that, it showcases a lack of inner stability. Similarly if you look at Ariana Grande, she's incredibly beautiful and has had success since a young age. However, I saw her at some evening talk-show, where she was incredibly anxious and talked in depth about her anxiety and about panic attacks and not being able to breathe. Those were just 2 quick examples. Look at sport-stars - even though they make more money in their 20s and 30s than a normal person could spend in their entire lifetime, many are broke, fat, injured, worn-down and miserable at 40. Of course I'm not saying that this is all due to evil eye or black magic, however I'm simply trying to nuance your perspective. You mentioned celebrities as a kind of argument against the dangers of drawing attention to oneself, citing their financial success as the main argument. I agree that many are financially succesful, however finances is just one domain of a succesful life. Love, relationships, meaning, happiness and inner wellness are some examples of other important domains, where being a celebrity doesn't necessarily guarantee sucess.

Hey @dindin, thanks for your message. Yes, anger was also something my paternal grandfather struggled with a lot, as do my wife and her entire family. I definitely think you can start to make peace through these rituals. We've both felt a change since we did the rituals last year. Her general family dynamics have also improved and become more harmonious. I know in the subcontintent there is a tendency that everything needs to be "a specific way", usually by your forking over your cash and surrendering your power to someone outside yourself, usually a guru or priest. If this authority truly has your best interest at heart, and they have knowledge and power, they can help a lot. Unfortunately, due to poverty and corruption, that is usually not the case. The vast majority are just mindlessly and mechanically "going through the motions" to take your money. If I were you, I would advice you to take matters into your own hands. Take the time to learn japa, puja, tarpana and havan yourself. Take responsiblity for your own life, empower yourself. No one from the outside is going to come and save you.

Hey! I really enjoyed reading through this thread I've watched all your youtube videos and read everything on your website. I personally know several people IRL who've taken and been very happy with your course. I really like your approach on everything being simple, physical, tangible, long term as well as the focus on health, tcm, herbs, lifestyle and so on. I would love to ask you about 2 things in your teaching system, namely 1) astral travel, 2) seeing the energies in the patients' meridians, organs, dan tiens as well as of course around the patient. What are your personal experiences about the above 2 things, what are your thoughts on it related to health, cultivation and dan tien development? Will definitely get in on the action and join your course probably the one in august. Look forward to hearing from you, All the best!

Yes, it's very true. I too didn't believe in any of this... until it happened to me! Thanks for chiming in

@idiot_stimpy That depends on the definition. Some systems will say yes, some will say no. I wil personally say no. In Simplified Kundalini Yoga (SKY) kundalini is the life force energy experienced as a vibration. It's of course somewhat related to breath and heat, but it's independent from it. Compare this to tummo and lower dan tien, which is related to blood and food qi, cultivated specifically by holding the breath again and again (thereby over time building more red blood cells). It's much more physical and related to the body.