Shadow_self

Theres multiple ways it can happen In fact the typical "cloud to ground" is only one type of several. Anvil crawlers would be one such demonstration If you've ever seen ground to cloud lightning, thats pretty cool as well

On one level the relationship regards causality in irrefutable But deduction to causality is a bit narrow in my opinion (due to the fact that karma can be inter-generational). Somebody else can do a crappy thing, and you can be on the end of that... Im not all that sure of your background, but are you familar with what happens when conciousness does a 180? But that "person" when removed from that which makes them "them" would have an extremely difficult time being smug and happy when being on the recieving end of their own actions Im sure, given you background you are most familiar with death process (conceptually speaking if not practically) An important point here being karma creates those states (though both are temporary, in a manner of speaking)

The two are routinely conflated, but are distinct categories. Karma is basically that which fuels the soul to reincarnate Habitual unconcious processes are what create karma and give it weight. It does not need to be a interpersonal thing. Where morality and indeed ethics come into play is that when we operate according what spiritual traditions would refer to as objective moral values, these are (or should be at least) encouraging one to operate from a place of selflessness. The act of karmic accumulation is usually a result of all the aforementioned unconcious behaviours reinforcing the sense of self and the acquired mind which are strengthened via repitition and a lack of awareness This is why mindfulness is given so much weight (real mindfulness not the modern mcmindfulness). To become aware of the unconcious processes governing our thoughts, emotions and behaviours, and to root them out. When this happens one can then start to get at some of the karma. The deeper stuff gets esoteric, when you need to start targeting heridetary karma and so on. Most would do well just to work with what they are creating for themselves and society in the here and now I think the above touches on that.

You need to reconsolidate/build the dantien, it disperses after you hit puberty. Theres a ton of free material online that anyone can use to get started with a practice, no teacher required. Heres a video which explains some of the mechanics And here is a playlist of good exercises you can work on to get started. Theres actually a video in there on how to locate the LDT (video 5 and about the false and true LDT) There are also some excellent talks here on Nathan Brines channel. His talk on pore breathing is interesting

Maoshan is a lineage, it has various methods and whatnot, and these would depend on what one is trying to achieve Far I can understand, it relies a lot more on transmissions, rituals, mantras, talismans and calling upon various "beings" For example, someone might be required to wear a fu on their body for an extended period of time, to allow it to alter the energetics of the body and have the desired effect It also has neigong etc There are some very powerful methods within the schools with actual abilities, and a lot of work is done with the upper field and central channel Not uncommon when trying to visualise things, it basically sends qi into the head. Not really a helpful thing to do if one is is a beginner in my opinion. Lots of people who practiced the Kunlun method (derived from a Maoshan sect) worked with the upper center and had a lot of issues For the vast majority of people, better to work with the lower field, and work their way up in time Ajna Chakra and the Upper Dantien are different things, they are separate. The physical correlates are in and around a similar region (the latter covers more area), but they exist on different frequency (there are some tethers)

Yes Maoshan is more in the realm of sorcery and magic, I can discuss the little bit I know about it, but its not something I am overly concerned with regards practice. What exactly is it you'd like to know? I do like to understand some of the mechanics (for example, how talismans work, and certain rituals), but practically speaking, magic isnt really my forte

It would depend on who you ask, and what they are doing it for If you were to ask a Maoshan practitioner for example, they do use mudra, visualisation, mantras and talismans etc. However, my understanding is that this is all somewhat impotent without tranmission and empowerment (and in some cases literally becoming a vessel) as it pertains to this use Another point is that this in the realm of magic, It is somewhat divorced from meditation proper per se, It does require certain states to be reached. Trance would sometimes be one (trance is also not meditation, no matter how people throw that word around) The second use you have is for those who use visualisation for concentration development. This can be useful, and there are practices taught for this purpose Where there seems to be problems comes in is when people try to build dantiens and qi and move and open channels by imagining lights, tree roots rivers and scenery and all other manner of things. This is something better avoided.

I appreciate the post Ive learned a few bits from different teachers, I just prefer Damos terminology as it seems to be the most straightforward in terms of whats required regards prep work for neidan specifically. Of course not everyone is interested for foundations regards neidan, but the reason I asked about those was because Nathan Brine recently vouched for Nelson so thats where the questions regards the prep work for neidan came in Some focus more on certain components, I had one person show me methodsfor 3, 5 and 6 , but nothing regards the rest (and maintained that 7 was not possible without an advanced practitioners intervention, though I know thats not the case. Thank you, and its good to hear someone else vouch for Nelson LHBF is not something I am familiar personally, hence the question

http://ithacaneigong.com/ Talk to Mark, he will help you out https://integrativehealthstrategies.com/qi-gong/ Josine Nelson is in VIrginia Both are students of Damo Mitchell's They'll see you both in the right direction im fairly certain

Ive heard this gentlemans name a few times over the years, its very nice to see someone else get into the teaching space online Would you care to discuss this a bit further? Foundation is a bit of a broad term. As I understand it, it would be multidimensional and related to Sinking and Anchroing the Breath, Mind and Qi Learning to control the awareness Reconsolidation of the Lower Dan Tien Opening the Spine, Joints, Kua and the extremeites Creating the Qigong Body (Having the connectivity of the Huang established) Learning the basics of building more qi Purging the Pathogens via practice Just curious which of the above boxes this ticks. I think it might be informative to others who may be looking to pick up something new

Astral attack incoming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

Oh you're just guessing? You mean you didnt astrally traverse the planet (as per your claimed siddhi) to investigate this first hand? How disappointing...

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Oh it's this guy again... People can draw their own conclusions from the above

You forgot practice spontaneous gong

Looks suspiciously at Viviani bars on the counter that are a daily.....

Normally it seems to be straight cacao powder as opposed to the formed bars themselves, as far as my understanding goes at least

Tenega Dalam as far as I am aware. Powerful stuff This group?

Aum/Om harmonizes Yin and Yang and allows one to move closer to spirit Very profound stuff Can help with all manner of mental issues too Certainly something seriously overlooked/underutilized by a lot of people

It also wouldn't work one someone who actually had them While true that it can rule out fraud at the level of someone using a device or props, it still does not give legitimacy to the practice imo at least Recall, that is not the only way of generating the effect via an alternative cause. You would still need to rule out an external source (such as the rather questionable practice I linked earlier) or taking external pills etc. Its possible that these may be controlled for too, though it is a bit trickier, especially the latter At this stage self experimentation becomes more important to legitimize something, imo at least

Kostas represented it quite well here imo, noting it is rather like the second, not the first

Its not that its ignored, its just not really a valid reason to not seek out something you state genuine curiosity about. Fleeting interest? Sure, but a genuine curiosity warrants a bit more imo I really don't mean this in an bad way, but it comes across like you are saying "I am not discerning enough to figure out whether im being fooled or not". That's a pretty bleak view to take of oneself. These people aren't all master manipulators believe it or not. @Pak_Satrio is trying to tell you that whatever reason you give to yourself not to go searching, is something that can be dealt with in person. Take freeform's many accounts of what he's left behind in pursuit of such things. Things are far more accessible now than they were a decade ago, and WAY more than two decades ago. We also have the time and experience of people who did go out and waste time, money and effort, who fortunately tell us truths to save us the same struggles. We owe them a great debt imo. Minefields without such guidance Outside of monetary shortages, health reasons, family commitments etc there's really no reason why someone cant go do a bit of search and exploration, if its what they are really interested in. It makes no difference to us. We have teachers, practices and know the actual truth of the matter But like I said, people will either find a way to dig deeper, or find an excuse not to. And that's fine From what I've seen, people that fall into the latter category tend to be protecting some kind of deep seated emotional belief or something that forms a core part of their identity, and so it is easier to avoid challenging that. Before anyone goes there pointing fingers, Im not saying that's you, However in my experience, people who have tended to shy away from confronting this in my circles, have generally been of that makeup

Because of the nature of the effect, it is very simple. There's only so many variables here People all over the forum have mentioned the various ways you can do so. None of them are experts really, they just understand the properties. I still don't think Yang Qi is a great measure though. The effect of Yin Qi is a lot better imo. Id be really interested to see someone replicate that effect internally with trickery What is a lot harder to figure out, is whether the practice itself works. The only way to do that is to actually do it

This is really why you'd need t go yourself, where you can control said variables I'm not familiar with Jiang per se, not my teacher. But to the best of my knowledge someone stripped him down and did all that stuff with him to rule out these kinds of explanations. You'd need to ask those who were closer to him. He's been dead quite a while, though his successor still does the same kind of stuff