Hey thelerner thanks for the welcome and the link im already a step ahead ive read through lots of daobums threads concerning the golden flower, and some about qi gong neidan neigong quanzhen chan buddhism and im afraid the more i read the less i know.
Your collection was really interesting to read through and also the anwsers we got from jj/april but its still a mystery to me and it seem like the more i read about different paths to enlightenment or x goals there more it seems that its the same in all teachings just differently packed.