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So sex or anger by definition throws body out of balance ? I am not sure, it seems to me, that anger and sex is a way to keep the body in balance. So, why people age, if their health returns to them ? EDIT: It is funny, when I conclude that "anger is a way to keep the body in balance", I get wave of feeling of heat in the muscles of shoulders and lower back. It is like I need only to reach a conclusion with thinking, then the Qi moves accordingly to suit me.

How can seriously malnutritioned, bullied, beaten, disgraced people for 5+ years live longer than my countries average life span, when merely having sex or anger reduces Jing ?

Was this a joke ? I see that @freeform had fun with this comment.

Hello, how much Jing is spent living 5 years in Nazi concentration camp ?

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I wanted to make sure that I understand what @freeform tells in his post. @freeform states, if I understand correctly, that: Logically it means(to me), that when a person's action is " truly ‘spontaneous’ ", that means that the action comes not from "acquired mind" and that is "true virtue". So, I presume, that what action is done, does not matter anymore, because "there is no correct and incorrect action". So, it does not matter if you beat or caress another person, as long as two statements above are logically true. I think a person is able not to do action based on decision which is defined as violence. For example, when someone beats him, he can just relax his muscles and wait. It looks like you interpreted my question in your own way. Your statement does not make sense to me. I am not sure how your word "natural" is related to my question. Could you clarify ? I think "instinct" is not an useful concept if you want to modify the human behavior, because it gives a feeling that "it is what it is, so accept it".

So if a person in truly ‘spontaneous’ manner starts to beat the pregnant lady instead of letting her to sit, he is a sage and does a positive effect on the pregnant lady's Ming or Karma ?

What do you mean - that we are straw dogs, or that choices are made for us, or something else ? When ?

So, if I sit and she stands it is the same in virtue as if she sit and I stand when we are Enlightened ?

Could you cite specifically ? I see only mind as to "where" in that post.

What do you mean "where" ?

What effect Samadhi had on you ?

If true virtue is: Then what you should do with the pregnant lady ?

Can you describe your experience in Samadhi ?

Hello, the use of word "intelligences" does not make sense to me, could you explain what is meant by word "intelligences" in this sentence ?

What did I write ? Define what is wisdom for you, then maybe I could answer. I do not know what is OCD. I know how to heal with TCM, but I only have little experience. I think I was able to play with Neidan, but I fear to proceed in a solitary manner.

Did you write this honestly ?

Your profile picture and name, shows what you value. What you value is what you do not have. Also, I am the real Owl, not you. And I vibrate with color brown, not you. Hence, you beg me to continue.

Reverse your statement to know the truth.

Oh my god, so complicated.

Truth is the reverse.

Outer depression happens, when you are too happy inside.

Thanks. Ok. I really want to share. As I stated above, I had and still have many health issues. The majority of symptoms can be put in the field of psychiatry, hence I take some antidepressants. The symptoms are: depression, strong fatigue, social phobia, anxiety and similar. This state was not acceptable to me and western medicine could not help me. So I started self studying TCM. This was several years ago, primarily I tried self accupresure based on my knowledge of TCM and also I went to one TCM practitioner, but it looked like I knew more about TCM than he did. There are not many TCM practitioners in my country and I live not in capital, and I do not have sufficient funds to travel frequently. Also, I wanted to have knowledge to help myself and others if needed and not to depend on other person for my health. Thus I chose to self study TCM. My first attempts were to press points to restore kidney yang/qi and spleen qi, but the effect was very small. Also, I was interested in Alchemy, with a silly thought, that I could achieve perfect health and extreme longevity. I doubt there are any Alchemist in my country and, also, I do not trust people and trust myself, so again started reading information about Daoist Alchemy. Also, I did read the text which are labeled as to be of extraterestrials/entities of higher densities(ET), which I did because I had fun reading them. Also, I think, that my metaphysical experiences, like seeing UFO's and light balls in my room which target me, are related to this desire to read the ET material. So there is information from TCM, Alchemy and ET which I have. Then this information joined with my nature and I experienced similar symptoms to what I was reading about Alchemy. About this experience I wrote in my first post in Daobums. I felt that I could continue what I at that time was experiencing, but I was afraid to hurt myself. I did the right thing, but the underlying desire to have strong health and long live did not dissapeared from myself. So I continued to study. Last month I was determined to gain as much knowledge of TCM as I could, so I read books, studied the patterns and pressed the accu-points to gain knowledge. I think it was last week an "Enlightenment". I realized the underlying patterns of my health issues regarding the TCM. Earlier I thought that I should press vital kidney, spleen, stomach and ren/du meridian points and health will return. But now I realized that there are many "blockages" in other meridians. So for example, I have a strong accumulation in sanjiao 3, even the muscle there is a bit risen, so when I press that point I experience some lightening feelings, but also I feel other accu-points. For example, I have dampness, it is only in lower burner, so the way to reduce dampness is not only clear the spleen, but to clear the sanjiao, which is responsible for fluid drainage in body. It was very enlightening to read about accu-points and feel instant relief when pressed in the correct spot. For example, I pressed sanjiao-15 and my whole side ribs relaxed, because I think fire as a child of wood is rebelling. So it was not to long, before I was aware of some other feeling, that which prompted my experience about which I wrote in my first post. I realized, that I feel pressure above the skin, I do not know, but I guess that I feel Qi. So when I realized that I can feel that pressure, I also started feeling breathing in lower Dantien again. So, as you, correctly pointed, I tried to experiment with stopping the breath with nose. So then I experienced the symptoms I wrote in this thread. It was different than the first time, which I did wrote in my first post in Daobums. Again, I do not fully fit in this forum, because I do not idealize the traditions people discuss here. My only focus is to be a good person, to experience physicality with less pain and live a normal life like normal people live. I thought about your words. I think "qi reversal" is a correct term about the experience I did have, which I wrote about in this thread.

Could you describe what is qi deviation? It would be very helpful. I will consider this, thank you. To find a western medical doctor is easy. But there are not many TCM doctors in my country and now I do not have sufficient funds to travel abroad. I think visiting both types would be beneficial. I had trouble with health most of my life, but now I think I realized how to smooth the meridians, now the term blocked meridians makes sense to me. When you unblock the meridians, body starts to feel lightweight. Now my muscle are much lighter, bone strength feels to need to improve, lungs should be bigger. But there are still some not healthy signs: under eyes and eyelids are still reddish/purple, the nose is stuffed and bleeding, the lips have sores, the sclera still has red blood vessels and so on. The tendons are the most unhealthy and also myopia, but I feel that I am improving my health. I would want to share, but I am not sure. I do not want to obstruct other people ways. If I say the ways, I think people will be able to experience this, because I think it is purely technical. I hold your view that this can be very problematic. Hence I ask for help. Thank you for responding to me. Can you describe what is qi reversal? I feel like I can control this experience with mind. I feel like a normal person when breathing through nose. Just that my dantien feels like a balloon full of air. Also, I did not vomit, just that I lost desire for food and water and when I tried to eat I felt like vomiting. Thank you for your care.

Hello Arisol, I do not know any proper meditation, so I use mind.