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Great! I made someone laugh, - again. Well, if anyone has something to add about TCM - feel free to do so.

sad! I didn't get that. Our diagnosis session was interrupted at least five times with the telephone ringing (I don't know if his secretary was ill or something, he seemed comfortable / habituated doing that all by himself.) and him running towards the alarm clock, to take out the needles of some other patient. never watched one of these... should I?

Thanks for that hint, @Trunk! With those keywords I might have found someone, with whom I'd feel comfortable with. Although it might take me a while to get there! This and this made me wonder, if there can be also harm in seeing a practitioneer, who might - get you wrong or treat the wrong acupuncture points... If the method has the possibility do good, it also has the possibility to do harm, of course. If the diagnosis would be a "kidney weakness on both sides" and "heart being out of balance / energy", - is that sufficient? He said he would go for the general meridian (on the back - Du meridian) and the bladder meridian first. If that wouldnt help, he'd go for the kidneys and heart more directly. He couldn't tell me the numbers of the meridians, as he learned the points by their chinese names (...) He also said, the wouldn't needle more than the chosen points, because If he did, I might not come back. Is there some inital aggravation like in homeopathy common? Is the phantom needle phenomenon a common one? Does it say anything if and how the needling worked? He didn't use plastic tubes to insert the needles, but checked the skin for how deep the needles should go. Of course it's weird to cast doubt about someones expertise who is in the field for several decades. (I know.) Just don't know if I feel fit for the follow up acupuncture session as previously arranged last time and whether that might kick me outta balance even more. Or whether I should wait (a few weeks) and take the time to see the one with the japanese style? Thoughts?

yes, for 2 seconds. just before he didn't say that much but asked a lot of questions about what the allopathic/western medicine found out (nothing much that I didn't know, despite MRT + ultrasonics + blood level tests having been made.) great, now you make me wonder why I should interfere with the natural way of life at all. that alone might be quite challenging. edit: are there any contraindications, where one definitly shouldn't see a TCM practicioneer? (just found pregnancy, seizure disorder (as in epilepsy?), skin disease etc.)

He has decades of experience and still let me talk a lot. Then giving a (rather vague) diagnosis, concerning the weakness of two organs. Had roughly 8-10 needles for 20 minutes, - when I asked which, - he named one meridian, but explained that he didn't learn the system with numbers like Du3 or BL10, but the original system in China which has specific names in chinese. He said he'd try that one meridian first, if the body does regulate itself, - if that wouldn't work, he'd needle a meridian, where the body would 'force itself'. My age seemed to amuse him, also my interest in his work he seemed to find rather peculiar (obviously nobody asks as many questions as I do in his practice...) There was no pulse taking during the treatment, but warming lamps. I didn't feel anything during the treatment. At night it seemed like I had some phantom needles at points he hadn't needled at all! What you mean is, you had a skin reaction to heat inside your body? This is interesting. So, if I wake up a lot between 3-4 a.m. in the morning, without knowing why, this does tell me, I need to detox my liver and blood? Or how can I interpret this, really? Thanks!

To differentiate between good and evil there has to be some kind of „projection surface“ or „witnessing element“. Judgement is usually a comparison of at least two options made by some instance that is not a part of those or can detach far enough to put those outside of itself by methods of thinking (evaluation). This „projection surface“ can be one individual, a group, a country, all mankind, - in theory. So there is awareness and methods of coming to a conlusion of good and bad / right and wrong within some strand of causal chains. --- --- - good and bad exist in our perception, but are often perceived different by the parties involved. These different perceptions of the same (or other) observed facts give need for regulations, might those be religious, spiritual or those of society (= laws) that show those who are subject to it which consequences the legislature and iudiciary (and sometimes the majority of people) deems right. Written law therefore might be a (good or bad) indicatior for right and wrong (just and moral behaviour) for a specific group of people at a specific timeframe under specific circumstances. Something to orient towards while making decisions about good and bad, right and wrong, maybe. (Written law being independent of justice and moral, as this is the only way to consider a law being right or wrong and correct it.) So what is the ‚right’‚good’, the ‚true’? Who may be authorized to say "this is it! and not the other." and why not somebody (individual or majorities) or something else (artificial intelligence, heavenly signs through the flight of birds)? Western philosophy of the law has discussed this and came up with two major theories… One: there is some objective higher natural (moral) law that is acknowledged by all beings and somewhat present in all cultures while expressed differently ( = theory of natural law). Two: law is that what is written down (manifested) as such (subjective values within specific time frame, place and group) and exercised by ‚authority’ both via due process and with exeptions of hardship and accepted by those subjected to it (= legal positivism). In regards to the theory of natural law, there is the difficulty of how to fixate this ‚rather intuitive feeling’? (The same difficulty appears for consciously chosen subjective values of humans that are set ad absolutum.) The closer you get, the more blurred and refracted it gets... Is it possible for the individual to follow this process of consideration (in accord with perceived higher law, in accord with surrounding people, in accord with subjective values) while deciding what is good and what evil? Or are these challenges too high to demand of everybody all the time? Probably. That might be why natural law is usually embedded in the constitutions of the people for everybody to voice their opinion and be heard before a court of law (with hopefully due process and competent, attentive and incorruptable judges!) and why it influences the interpretation of laws. And that is why law is usually written down, so that one has some orientation to ponder on (and discuss!) while wandering around here, while looking at it through individual experience and cultural lenses etc. And yet again there arises another question: when determining right and wrong or good and bad, are we looking at intentions or outcomes? Or do we need both? The trouble with looking at intentions is the lack of proof to determine (for yourself and others) if what happened was due to wilful intent or conditional intend or gross negligence or carelessness? (Isn’t the mind with it’s thoughts and feelings a flaky unreliable thing?!) The trouble with outcomes is, how far and deep can we estimate the results down the causal chain? Can we elaborate all conditions and forsee and evaluate all elements in the chain, even those yet unknown? And what about acts where a will was missing? What about acts where I feel that I have a justification for my actions even though the outcome was as expected? What if I was under the influence of substances or manipulated by somebody else while making my decision? There’s help with the concept of „attributability“, - thus which is not foreseeable, which is not within normal life experience, cannot be attributed to you, (is without your accountability) – and of course help with the concept of self-responsibility and limited areas of responsibility (delegation). Which leaves us with a need for structure and a lot of work for the synapses if we want to consider all of that, while evaluating what is good and bad, within a limited frame of time and reference via forseeability and cultural lenses of the individal person. Usually of course most of us just run on autopilot... For some element that might be beyond such limitations, I suppose, it would still be difficult to determine in the whole context if one act of will was good or bad, as the outcome in all directions on all levels must be taken into account: a minus there, a plus there, does it make it equal on a wider scale? In which frame of time and reference is something ‚good’ or ‚bad’, ‚right’ or ‚wrong’? Maybe it’s more ‚good’ for someone, ‚bad’ for someone else, beneficial (or not!) in the wider (but perceived limited) scheme of things? It sure is easier to determine within a limited context what good and bad is! At what point in which dimension do qualia become indifferent and just act and react within particles and waves? It might be true that it looks mesmerizing and beautiful, this 'belle indifference'. But it doesn’t help much solving everyday problems (e.g. conditions of unrest in movement) in everyday life, especially if you have strong feelings about the specific problem and the readiness to act accordingly!? Interfering with causal chaings outside of your sphere of responsibility might backfire and set you (and those you interfere with) in a greater state of unrest (unforseeability of all effects your action has in the long run, more responsibility, steady assessment etc.) and further away from one desired equilibrium. So if you evaluate a complicated matter and come to the conclusion, that you are willing to take the risk and accept the consequences of your action despite possible fallout, I would argue, that this is the closest way you can come to your personal definition of ‚good’ and ‚bad’, ‚right’ and ‚wrong’ in the specific context.

interesting, that this is considered a symptom ! so you hopefully did find out what caused that? So there's practically no way of checking how good they are before I signed their treaty and agreed to be needled? Apart from going through their CV, see whether they did the A + B diploma of acupuncture, how long they have already practiced? Most have an allopathic medicine doctorate as main business. There would probably a higher chance of competence if they grew up with the culture - have asian background, no? Or not necessarily?

Should they practice only TCM? Those I come above, - not tried yet - either just stopped practicing last year or do a mix sort of. I did stumble upon an indian acupuncturist - haven't tried that either - and someone who only sells ten obligatory sessions priced more than double on what I pay monthly rent. that would be impressive indeed!

yes please. ('read only' was only to mark my intention not to be a troublemaker there.)

So what comes up in your posts is like spontaneous gut instinct insight or creativity or what is it? So far I was not able to detect a pattern or contextual relationship. Still there are bits who might get attention ... if you'd only elaborate. Your canaan comparison for example I found to be quite an intriguing hypothesis... (where'd you get that?)

For academical purposes, would you mind citing your source? Experiencal knowledge? Study? You are quoting a law and I'd be interested in which one you are talking about.

For "read only" I'd like access to current events too, thank you.

Trying to make this post less obscure: I'd like to know if you believe in NLP (or black magic or black tantra) if you believe in that: I'd like to know if there's a decent way to get aware of such stuff if one is susceptible to this stuff and to repell this influence and how that is possible. (and no, I don't wish to go into the abyss of reddit and read occultist works!) This is because when several women mentioned specifics of sexual abuse in a town nearby, there were men who spoke up and said, they might have been psychologically manipulated via hypnotherapy or neurolinguistic programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming and this sounds just very disgusting and I wondered if that might be a real thing and how those could be helped, if that wasn't in their benefit but for egoistic purposes of the perpetrator. Maybe those men had no idea, was hoping for a 'reality check' on the daobums. Thanks a lot!

this seems contradictory. and you don't give a plausible reason why. I prefer the extreme ownership approach: whatever is in my life is there for a reason, and even if it is that I have a faint resonance for it, e.g. wanting to have that experience, even despite it being against my truthful will and benefit. If I got myself into a bad situation, I can get myself out of it, or die trying. The ignorance of the consequences or indifference of non-acting despite realizing the infringement seems to be a sin towards the higher Self of the person. Even if unaware, that's what I dreamt, when I fell asleep while listening to music last time.

Thank you again for your answer, @Nungali! I'm not at all tuned into this, I'm quite blind concerning those subtler levels. Just on few days, - where there's some astrological transit emphasis on my natal Neptun etc. - I do get different dreams at night than usual. Else, those outer planets effects (and levels) are mostly hidden or - well overshadowed by the others. (Although dreams have usually always been helpful to me, those times now I sometimes have to check, - oh yes, it really was just a surreal dream - - uff! ). That's why I prefer psychology, science, proof, perceivable cause and effect, laws of nature instead of tricks and - for me - unexplainable, might those be simple manipulation or subtler. However there's times, when I feel intuitively that I'd have like to have an explanation for some of the things I do not understand (...) as there's something that's going wrong, and it's not wrong because of me or my perception. Like the cases I wrote about, and some other experiences. My mind strongly overwrites those as figments of imagination and oversensitivity of the senses. Maybe Occam's razor is the best solution here, - unaware stupidity (like the assault case) of people is simply awful! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor) Worse might be only aware stupidity and hurtfullness. It might very well be all there, but you cannot fight with monsters you don't see? And the occult isn't really my choice of playground. For now I go with Ronald Weasley, - I'd rather like to chase butterflies than spiders (if I have to chase anything at all) and so I'll stick with the advice in 1 + 2 try to deliver it to those I have in mind as far as that's still possible ...(preliminary research and getting to know self better). I might get back to you about that topic at some time, thanks!

Yes. There's the obvious, that which you can deduct by simply looking at people and questioning their motives. What is paradoxical to me, is how it is possible to influence people against their will and benefit... Thus why I mentioned probabilities before... If one is aware of their will and benefit, they just wouldn't do it, no? Why should they... So they are only halfway aware ? Just wanted to know if there was some managable action, still trying to make an analogy with the bird example... but fail miserably.

Thanks, @Nungali, - - to speak in the terms of spells and magic, rather than NLP and anchors, hypno'therapy' etc. etc. ... in your words... (trying to summarize) it would take a "white magician" (with some experience like that they strive for in the eleusian mysteries) to break the "spell" of a "black magician" or egoistic unaware manipulative wicked bastard, so to speak? Or the "spell" didn't even result there but was there all along? Irritating! How would one ever know the intent...? How then trust...? --- Well, in the case of the assault I was mentioning, - the woman mentioned, she couldn't mumble a "NO!" but was strongly unwilling to intercourse when it happened, and let it happen, - happened when she was still half asleep. I found that pretty shocking reading this today... (shocked not by the sexual assault, that happens often, but that she couldn't or didn't express her explicit will. - and she wasn't the only one there saying this... oh no...) So never mind, if it is black tantra, NLP, hypnotherapy or else... without the realization of being manipulated into something you initially don't wish to do and the will to do something against there's no way out for those? (Asking because there's another, who didn't get what the matter over the outcry was, as her boyfriend would usually take her, when she was still asleep / not conscious and often couldn't say if it was reality or a dream, - even though building of a will is not possible in that state and it is prosecutable!) Not sure if I understand this correctly... do you mean - like the average consciousness is a near type of hypnotic programmed trance?

The how and if of the influence of occult magic(k), NLP, black tantra or whatever they call it... You, @Nungali, always mention Aleister Crowley... I know you hold him in high regard, but I do not and do not wish to get into his works, just asking, in your opinion in a few words, if that stuff works and how it could influence people on a subconscious level or else - people under the spell - so to speak. - if it is even real (that's what I dunnot know).

Why isn't that what is perceivable and influencable by word and deed alone (no tricks) not good enough? Why does there have to be (what I'd call) undue influence to live a great or good life? Why can't that which is haunting you just be some ultimate real part of you that wonders where your true path is and work out stuff from your past that didn't went that well? I truly believe you can still find the miraculous elsewhere, macrocosmos of nature, relationships, science, astronomy, arts, music, people, history or whatever you choose if you actually wish to!

Cannot contribute anything about asian worldviews and concepts that isn't already known here - what comes to my mind is what Mozart and Schickaneder did with the 'Magic Flute' Opera, if anyone is into music here... (which is set before ancient egypt) At some matinée at the theater they told before, that in fact originally they had it planned out differently before the publication. Queen of the Night should then have been King of the Night, - as the greedy, passionate, angry, vengeful, distrustful, scheming man instead of woman. Sarastro, with his (strange and easy to risk someone's life and sanity) brotherhood (who doesn't seem to support free will of the individual either !!) stands for the light, the humanistic ideals, benevolence, should in their plan have been the female character. For whatever reason - don't know if this is even true - they were obligated to exchange the male / female parts, - (doesn't make quite sense to me, however should any man be ever able to sing the "Queen of the Night Aria" ? Or did they really change that much ? ) Once I wondered, if the Queen of the Night should have been a symbol for the catholic church and Sarastro with his 'sevenfold sun circle' the liberty, truth, reason and individualism of the siècle du lumière, - 'age of enlightenment' which started with the Diderot, D'Alembert, Rousseau, Voltaire, the first encyclopedia, science development and voices against the cencorship and abuse of power by the catholic church and the respective ruler of the countries back then in the west. And this could be of course an analogy to the individual and Kant's self imposed immaturity. But then again: one can interprete almost anything into music and poetry, no? Far fetched for sure. Anyways, the whole thing always irritated me. (It seems something doesn't fit in the opera.) However, - one does seem to find both concepts (male and female) in males and females. As well as darkness and light. About the divine, - somewhat I'd equate consciousness with light, and birth / creation with the darkness, but more intuitively so, quite surely influenced by legends and stories told from a young age on. Consciousness would need something to be put into, creation without consciousness might be quite destructive in the long run... one not without the other. Still, one seems to be more perfect accomplished (polished) than the other, I'd say... but couldn't exist long without the other? --- Edit: and about the not so accomplished imperfect evolving 'darkness' (in case of the flawed individual and the flawed (?) evolving world in general) I'd let Leonard Cohen answer to your foremost question... "there's a crack in everything, that's how the light get's in" - so to speak a necessary process somewhat (lyrics from anthem, see also it's torn by him, if you're interested. remarkable artist indeed!) --- @forestofemptiness could you please get into some more details, this sounds quite interesting, or maybe just send a link or so.

Don't intend to conquer and drive the thread away, but would anyone know a less invasive resource for metabolism regulation (= balance?) for those who don't react that well towards modern medicine ? ? Yes, I know, if serious I should see doctor or TCM practicioneer. But just in case, that'd be great! Edit: never mind

what's been of use to me - lately: ginger water black tea with milk reishi - THE one thing that gives me focus and stability these days acaia gum - as dietary fiber guarana ginseng zeolite - in case of detox need ashwagandha - also for concentration and nerves vit b12 iron kalium vit d3 in oil vit k2 in oil rubia cordifolia - agains burning skin issues pomegranate juice a mixture of dry fruits, flower pollen, legumes, herbs herbs in tea, depending on the current conditions. very rarely black chocolate apart: clean eating. meaning no processed foods and absolutely no only few sweets.

Haven't been able to eat the last few days. I realized something that makes me feel internally sick to the innermost, causing me to vomit. (sorry.) I tried tea (salvia officinalis). Anything that I can do ?

to find trust in myself, the wisdom of the way and kind strangers even if both seemed rather hard for some time. thanks to those with whom I could connect here. glad you were and are there.

just imagine the dancer being blind !