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Hey everyone! I just took the Saturday class on Zoom today and got tons of corrections from Sifu Terry on Silkweaver's Exercise, Short Form Power Yoga (Tao Tan Pai), and Moonbeam Splashes on Water. Highly recommend. One thing I'm wondering but forgot to ask in class -- @zen-bear you mentioned before that whenever I move my hands, I should feel corresponding energy movement in the body mass. Is that specific to Flying Phoenix? Or does it apply to other Bak Fu Pai qigong systems too? (10,000 Buddhas, Advanced Flying Phoenix, etc.) Thanks, Alex

Just got a ton of corrections from Sifu Terry in the Basic 31 for mistakes I had no idea I was making. I feel a ton of energy everywhere - the devil is definitely in the fine points.

No. Both have been extremely safe for me. (assuming you do the form and breath control correctly for FP)

I also practiced Flowing Zen for about 4 years before getting into Flying Phoenix. I noticed that the qi didn't mesh that well when I practiced back to back, so now I wait at least a few hours between the two.

Just took Sifu Terry's beginner qigong class today and got a ton of useful corrections on the Basic 31. Really opened things up and I could feel a ton of energy in my whole body. We ended with Flying Phoenix and I could feel a lot of the catalyzing effect of Tao Tan Pai on Flying Phoenix. Overall I'm feeling more progress and enjoying TTP more and more. I didn't feel much in the beginning compared to Flying Phoenix, but it's gotten a lot better as my skill improves. The Short Form Power Yoga is now one of my favorite things to practice. 1. Some open floor space is needed, maybe like 8ft by 8ft? That's usually how much I need for the Cane Form. Not sure about the other ones though. 2. They're completely independent. They do complement each other really well though and there's a catalyzing effect of TTP on FP as Sifu Terry has pointed out in the other thread.

I can attest to the same thing with Moonbeam Splashes on Water. Got a few subtle corrections in a private lesson and it made a huge difference.

I went to the in person workshops taught by Sifu Terry. They were Zoomable though. I can't speak too much to the time requirement since I'm just a beginner, but if I'm super squeezed for time, I still get some effect from cutting my practice short (e.g. just do 1-2 rounds of Cane Form and a couple exercises from Short Form Power Yoga). Not sure if doing just that every day will lead to long term progress though.

I just realize that one potential interpretation of the I Ching reading was staring me in the face the whole time. Richard Wilhelm's translation of the I Ching says for the changing line: I think this conveys the importance of softness and breaking up one's external tensions in Tao Tan Pai practice.

I learned from Sifu Terry (@zenbear on this forum), both through in-person workshops and on Zoom. Takes me at least 30 min a day I’d say (kung fu forms plus basic neigong). But that’s the bare minimum and I usually do longer.

I am starting this discussion thread with Sifu Terry Dunn's approval -- here to discuss Tao Tan Pai Kung Fu and Neigong. I've been practicing Tao Tan Pai since April of this year (8 months now). Have had many benefits already: - more energy -- especially when I'm feeling dull or tired, TTP has been a great waker upper - mental clarity - relaxation - catalyzing my practice of Flying Phoenix I recently asked the I Ching about Tao Tan Pai, and the hexagram I got was 34 (Great Power) changing Line 5 to 43 (Breakthrough). Judgment: Image: Changing line 5: Curious what it could mean 🤔 Anyways, I'm excited to get this discussion going!

No, but I probably should have. Nice - any specific meditations/breath controls that you use?

Two interesting developments with Flying Phoenix: 1. A few Thursdays ago during a work meeting, I accidentally ate pecan ice cream which I'm very allergic to. I was about to go grab my meds and suffer for the next 24 hours. Then I had the idea to do the FP Long Form breath control sequence, sit for 30ish seconds, then do the closing breaths. I immediately felt a wave of FP energy that engulfed the swollen areas and alleviated much of the symptoms. I was in awe at how quickly and effectively that worked. 2. A couple nights ago, after playing basketball in the cold, I felt a tickle in my throat. I drank a preventative formula from my Chinese Medicine doctor, chewed some ginger, and did an hour of FP (Long Form, Monk Gazing at the Moon, all of the 90s meditations, and some seated meditations). I immediately felt the cold symptoms dissipate and the urge to go to sleep. The morning after, I felt completely recovered with no trace of the cold whatsoever.

Interesting - have you gotten acupuncture before? If so, do you also not feel anything during acupuncture?

This is my long overdue review of Sifu Terry’s Flying Phoenix workshop on 7/19-21. First, a bit of background - I've been training in FP for the last year and Tao Tan Pai since April. Previously I'd attended 2 workshops in person - Tao Tan Pai in April and Flying Phoenix in May. I can say that this workshop was absolutely amazing. Sifu Terry once again acted as a fountain of knowledge on every possible subject. He gave us each detailed form corrections on all FP exercises, which really enhanced the effects. This was also the first time I truly felt the catalyzing effects of Tao Tan Pai on Flying Phoenix! Right after doing the Short Form Power Yoga, we moved onto Flying Phoenix, and I felt like I was immediately propelled into a trance-like state where my consciousness was bathed in the FP energy. I can only describe the experience as profoundly ethereal. Later, we watched various footage of GM Doo Wai, some of Sifu Terry's old kung fu demonstrations, and made a foray into other arts like 10,000 Buddhas and 8 Sections of Energy, which was an awesome treat. Sifu Terry also provided us with an arsenal powerful warmups from tai chi/bagua, Qing Dynasty imperial stretches, and various kung fu forms like Shaolin Five Animals, which helped further supplement our qigong practice -- in fact, each warmup exercise felt like a complete qigong exercise in its own right, with its own energizing and aligning effects. We also got a crash course on using the I Ching, which was very helpful and enlightening. I can testify that I felt packed to the brim with newfound qigong knowledge, and this workshop took my practice to the next level! Alex

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