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Kunlun system. What are your experiences with it? Positive or negative?
Sahaja replied to Oneironaut's topic in Systems and Teachers of
The Yi Gong part of Kunlun can trigger zi fa gong and if you havenāt opened this door there can be a benefit to experiencing how yang qi manifests in you. Actually the ZFG process can be triggered by many qi gong practices, not just Kunlun/yigong. Itās just a phase you should move through and not attach to. . In my opinion Kunlun sensationalized ZFG into something more than it is when it came out which I think was inappropriate. Itās just a normal bodily process triggered by qigong that can have some extremely weird manifestations. In my opinion itās no more magical than belching or farting. Best to treat it with the same irreverence and laughter to help keep perspective. However if you are under a doctorās care for psychological issues I advise against any qi gong practice including spontaneous qigong like Yi Gong as they will just give more energy to the illness. While I havenāt practiced Red Pheonix, I think youād be better off studying processes that lead to the Microcosmic orbit with a guide than practicing unknown systems on your own. Here I am referring to a process that leads to the MCO rotating on its own (not one artificially created and guided by the mind). This circulation should naturally arise on its own based on developing the yin qi fields of the Dan tians, opening the channels and building qi, not be imposed by the minds intent. The MCO is a very old tradition. -
Effects of the Eight Brocades vs Five Animal Frolics
Sahaja replied to markern's topic in General Discussion
Yes my understanding of sounds is they are more naturally arising outcomes of organ system clearings/balancing than something you consciously practice. To some extent they (along with certain naturally arising movements )can represent specific organ system imbalances being addressed. -
Kunlun system. What are your experiences with it? Positive or negative?
Sahaja replied to Oneironaut's topic in Systems and Teachers of
My guess is that this is part of Kunlun system. I found it posted on Scribd when I was trying to see what was referred to as red Pheonix in the Kunlun book as nothing was written there describing what it was other than that it was an important exercise. -
Effects of the Eight Brocades vs Five Animal Frolics
Sahaja replied to markern's topic in General Discussion
That can trigger spontaneous movements, sounds etc. -
Effects of the Eight Brocades vs Five Animal Frolics
Sahaja replied to markern's topic in General Discussion
My understanding is that Animal frolics trigger internal mechanisms related to specific organ systems, sort of a version of spontaneous qi gong. Brocades are good for supporting Jin and zhong ding mechanisms for taiji but you have to be able to use the Yi to connect the qi and the fascia to make the brocades work. . If you canāt do this (donāt have sufficient qi developed to make this connection) then they end up just as external stretches that miss the point. -
Kunlun system. What are your experiences with it? Positive or negative?
Sahaja replied to Oneironaut's topic in Systems and Teachers of
Here is something I found on the red Phoenix a few years back. Unknown - Red Phoenix Meditation.pdf -
I can only share my experience. There are many possible signs of qi and there are specific markers on the path of development depending on the path /guide you follow.. I think the 8 signs of qi described above is one classical attempt to articulate them. However there are differences from person to person both in what arises and how one subjectively experiences/describes them. While itās easy to get excited by these manifestations, itās important to keep oneās perspective to avoid attachment to outcomes. If one gets overly attached to a specific outcome oneās body may respond by replicating it over and over, creating a rut where development stagnates. My understanding is that these manifestations should change as you progress through the process. Best to work with a guide to help you understand and respond to what arises. If nothing else responding with indifference to the effects is often the most powerful path to take. I am actually saying this as much to myself as to you. This week I started some new practices and the effects were new and quite strongā¦this is reminding myself to be casual and accepting of them. Itās easy for the mind to take these experiences, get excited and run with them which is not very helpful in the long run.
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in my work on genealogy I came across the Mormon genealogical database called FamilySearch that goes back crazy far. Someone related to me might have been Mormon so one part of my family line was there, and I traced mine back to some interesting famous historical characters. Need to take it with a grain of salt as lots of the layers were problematic . JC himself was there with a daughter named Sarah Damaris bat Yeshua. I teased my daughters that based on this they were DaVinci code material. Of course the Roman emperor Caligula was there too..haha. Worth a look if you have lots of time to scroll through all the generations.
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After doing the haplogroup thing on my parents and seeing the maps that showed the movement across the world of my ancestors from their source in east Africa I found that one could argue that indigenous really only applies to these original people in East Africa. However if you reduce it that far in search of a pure definition you miss out on many interesting and informative steps in evolution of religion, culture, cultivation, healing modalities and philosophy. To me what makes this topic interesting is asking the questions - what was there before what we are familiar with now?, how are these things connected? and what can we learn from them? In my posting on the Babaylan priestesses I tried to make the point that the view of the Philippines just as a country that is predominately Catholic with enclaves of Islam in the south misses a lot of important influences and cultivation phenomena. Some young people in the Philippines are attracted to the Babaylan/hilot culture to find who they are and to overcome their own programming as a colonized people. It has helped them to connect with something through a community mechanism that was there before the modern world that can help them work through their own issues such as trauma, relationships and dealing with gender identity issues. My own interaction as a cultural outsider meeting with it in my own family has created growth for me including getting me to go beyond the thinking sense that is so predominate in modern culture (a work in progress, lol) and to better see how people are affected by the colonial mindset. It also has given me a perspective on what lineage transmission is in an esoteric sense that not many outsiders get to directly experience.
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Thought Iād share this on the Babaylan indigenous culture of the Philippines. I have participated in some of these rituals and found them both powerful and fascinating particularly seeing the connections to Indian and Chinese language, physical and spiritual cultivation and healing cultures that are part of it. My wifeās grandmother was a traditional practitioner of this and the capabilities of her lineage appear to have been passed on to the women in my immediate family. The video talks about the indigenous experience in confronting Christianity and Islam as well as the role of gender including transgender there. My guess is that many indigenous practices in other parts of the world went through similar processes where they interacted with/were changed by outside cultures trying to control them. In the modern era the Babaylan culture mostly manifests as indigenous healing practices like manghihilot which are still widespread in the Philippines but there also still exists behind this those currently following the culture and practices of the Babaylan. My understanding this tradition was not only affected by Catholicism and Islam but also more recently by American Protestant missionaries who carved up the Philippines in the 20th century into areas of authority to proselytize and before Catholicism and Islam by Buddhist and Hindu influences. These earlier Indian influences can be seen in the language, traditional scripts, as well as in the healing practices. https:// 1 justjoseph responded to this Quote Edit
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Thought Iād share this on the Babaylan indigenous culture of the Philippines. I recently participated in some of these rituals and found them both powerful and fascinating particularly seeing the connections to Indian and Chinese language, physical and spiritual cultivation and healing cultures that are part of it. My wifeās grandmother was a traditional practitioner of this and the capabilities of her lineage appear to have been passed on to the women in my immediate family. The video talks about the indigenous experience in confronting Christianity and Islam as well as the role of gender including transgender there. My guess is that many indigenous practices in other parts of the world went through similar processes where they interacted with/were changed by outside cultures trying to control them. In the modern era the Babaylan culture mostly manifests as indigenous healing practices like manghihilot which are still widespread in the Philippines but there also still exists behind this those currently following the culture and practices of the Babaylan. https://
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Congratulations! Well done.
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I think that is what happens when men get old though I thought it was spelled differently.
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Perhaps what we need is a water horse to balance and calm things down a bit.
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Iāve been doing his stuff awhile (longer and more in depth than anyone here has practiced his stuff based on the comments) and I think itās great. I like that it is so physical and I like his irreverence and that I can do it online but also in person. . I think making things light actually helps when the practices can be very intense energetically. Sure he says things that trigger people (me included) but I think developing the ability to deal with and respond to people with different opinions and perspectives is part of the path. I think there is also some method to his madness as he wants his students to develop into independent practitioners not just yes men and yes women dependent on the teacher . Also I am definitely from a different generation with a different perspective than his. However his politeness, ,kindness and humility translate well for me. My background was both external and internal martial arts then yoga and now back to neigong and IMA with Lotus Nei Gong. I actually chose him because what he teaches was what my body was already showing me in martial arts, yoga and then in qi gong (e.g flying Pheonix, Kunlun, Kwan yin magnetic, rudi and others) before I started or really had any awareness of his program. I donāt think I would have tried it if this was not for my experience with the energetics of these other practices. When I tried Damoās practices it seemed like my body already knew the cues and internal connections that he described. . Now I can clearly see what and how things have changed as a result of the practices. Also his explanations are quite thorough and he shares things that arenāt available in any texts Iāve seen and Iāve read a fair bit and been involved in these practices most of my life. Itās also humbling for me to continually realize how much I donāt know. At this rate I will soon know nothing at all..lol. However i think if he turns you off then I agree itās better to find something else. Just felt I needed to be honest about my experience rather lurking at the periphery of the discussion. Hope my comments are useful.
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I think your fire horse looks good. Here is one that includes the heart/mind fire, giving it a bit of alchemical flavor. Not sure this fits the astrological view but itās a good reminder to not to be emotionally carried away by the changes the year brings. Horse is surrounded by fire but is still pretty chill for a horse surrounded by fire.
