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Drugs are bad m’kay?

Yup nothing beats first hand experience, especially in these matters. It has to be felt to really understand.

@PestiferMundi see, this is a prime example on why learning from books alone won’t get you far

I thought you said you haven’t found anything about neigong in books?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_tradition

Hi @PestiferMundi, As per our discussion on Reddit, here is more info on the teacher I recommend: Hopefully it can help you reconsider learning only from books

If you want to find out for sure, just travel back along the timeline and ask Tesla yourself

Pass me the blunt my dude Also I wonder how high you get when you smoke during full lotus

Find one then

Maybe he tasted some of his wet chemicals and had an inner experience

I’m sorry but even equating meditation and getting drunk/high is a massive disservice to meditation and honestly quite infantile. It should not just be reduced to “it feels good plus no hangover”. Whatever happened to enlightenment, spirituality, escaping samsara etc, or something more worldly like better health, clearer mind, no bad habits? Is the bar really so low that you have to compare meditation to going to the pub?

I don’t think it’s a good idea, it is both misleading and false advertising, but worst of all taking advantage of using people’s addictions and escapism to get hooked on his practices. Meditation should be used to help people get rid of their addictions, not become one.

Yup I would have advertised it as MDMA without a horrific comedown if I was him. Hehe

Ok for a serious answer This whole thing is very simplistic. Being drunk and being stoned are both very different things, you have a different state of mind for both and your body is affected in different ways. Even with cannabis you have a different effect if you are using a sativa plant or a indica plant, one is more of a head high and more THC, the other is more of a body high with more CBD. Now if we look at cocaine, crack, heroin, opium, meth etc you have even more different effects on the body and mind. It’s too simplistic to say “meditate instead of taking drugs”. You can and will reach other states of mind by meditating, I’m not denying that. I just think it’s a silly comparison because what you can feel during meditation will ultimately be different than what you feel taking different types of drugs. This is also quite an incredible claim, would need to see definite proof of this for such a statement.

Relax it’s a joke

Can someone teach me a meditation that gives the same effect as crack? asking for a friend

I started learning volume 3 around 2 months after I started volumes 1 and 2, just for your reference, was also doing at least an hour a day.

Until you feel ready. There’s no need to rush, you can go as slow as you like or you can go straight into it. What I would recommend before you start volume 3 is have a private lesson with Sifu Terry so he can correct your form before you get into the more complicated sets of volume 3 onwards.

Doing good things repeatedly will create a habit of doing good things and change your mindset, eventually it will make you good. Post this question in the Flying Phoenix thread so Sifu Terry can explain it to you

Because one can actually get you results, the other way will at best just waste your time and at worst do damage to your body or mind. I’m not trying to discourage you or hide anything from you, I just don’t want to see people hurt themselves by trying out random practices that they see online.

I and many others managed to do it, why can’t you? I’m not going to reveal teachings, you have to learn the proper way.

Find a teacher who can teach you these practices properly, don’t learn from reading random people’s text online.

You need to do other neigong and waigong practices as well as meditating on the real LDT

Welcome! Sounds like an amazing experience!