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Teach teach teach, preach preach preach, what is the big difference? Fine and blurry line in between the two. Just because you are typing here for Free does not mean you did not become Mr Form to the visitors who deeply believe you. I can see you 'not asking for people's time, money or effort'. Even it is true, you use your eloquence to dangle big promises of far away magic in front of hungry people. If they want to satisfy the hunger you help stimulate then......"I keep my teacher's identity quiet because that's what I've been asked to do" (but you can go to Mr Mitchell he is teaching the same stuff, even also has secret esoteric buddhist teachings) (however he is like Mr Franztis, take little bit of this join to a little bit of that: now a complete 'system' with a lovely web site ) U don't owe me information------but I dont owe you not to smell some fishy overlap~~

you too We know that you have a verrry good teacher. To what extent?? Practitioners all over Asia know him, and they will come to him for advice, even help and medical treatment! And the teacher is proficient in English. But besides you, does anyone know him? It just so happens that the method he teaches is terribly similar to that of Damien Mitchell, and he also happens to think that Damien Mitchell is a highly qualified practitioner...So if people want to learn more from you or him, actually best to just join Lotus Neikung. Your teacher...quite a character

Oh no I think this is my mistaken understanding.......in the history of Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholicism I thought they are synonyms. He did not say he is a big deal in Catholicism......."only" said his family a big deal in the Orthodox church. Sorry!! Today heard some more: he is also a master of the stock market and high level poker gambling! Hiked in the himalayas (including Mt Everest) in flip flops and T-shirt! Quite entertaining but also a bit crazy. He has a story about a woman who was being raped by 100 or 1000 men. Lots of his stories are lots of violence, sex, sex+violence. I think we can divide his numbers all by 10 or 100 and maybe he has some reality in his stories.

If you listen to the first 50% of the interview you will know your ears a blessed with the tongue of a master! Of: Advaita Vedanta (he invented this method on his own...meditating for two hours a day as a boy..."I heard Maharashi was kind of a big deal in India") Chan Buddhism ("I even became a Chan Master for awhile") Jiu Jitsu Aikido Karate (the US government kidnapped him in Japan and forced him to teach a suicide squad???) Some secret Japanese Taoist priest sect? (So much a secret it hasn't any name) Pranayama Yoga Kriya Yoga (1 year locked in cave in India) Greek Catholicism ("me and my grandfather are a big deal in the Orthodox church in Greece.......") I-Kuan-Tao (inside of this: Fighting to the death or maiming enemies too many times to count Having sex with more than 1000 women (luckily in Scandinavia different women brought him for sex every day!!!) Taoist ritual (bit strange because I-Kuan-Tao is different than Taoism but close enough hmm) (never heard in Taiwan that I-Kuan-Tao is a fighting and sex ninja cult but okay, these are the deeeeep secrets) Taoist Nei-dan (one time meditated for one week without moving?) Tai chi chuan (Can cure disease worse than hepatitis but it is called hepatitits) Pa kua chang Hsing Yi Chuan Dzogchen Did I miss anything??? Stay online for the second 1/2 of the interview!!!! So I was a little bit surprised he wasn't this man when I checked on his photo: Even more he pushed a Turkish soldier from a locomotive at a top speed because the soldier was going to rape him, while other soldiers are raping 'everybody in the train', something to do with the Ottoman empire? And the other soldiers didnt shoot him?

So you made this discovery? How tall you are now???? How much regeneration did you do already? At least 30 ft??

Ya seems a same writing style

The photos are because the discussion is......ovvvvveeeeerrrrrr.......no more need to try to discuss with a man who will tie himself into any ridiculous knots of poor logic and just sit in the middle of his bundle of confusion and self contradicting while reminding everybody: "I am a master of the Nei Dan!" Yah yah, we see we see, and we also see the naked king is wearing beeaaauuutttiiifffuuullll robes! So I mean to say......You were already out. So the bow is actually a little bit unecessary... But the politeness is appreciated~~~

No no no not the 3rd eye... Different... I used the four eyes! I told you----Lee Fong-mao is a Taoist, but I learned from him the scholarly way, not some Taoist magic. Anyhow what I was saying about you seeming confused or changing your mind~~ Not so hard to demonstrate, only needs a bit of time. But I was pretty busy lately, using my four eyes for other things. Sorry for delaying! So: The reason I am doubting that you really think anger is okay is because of...The words of Mr. Joss Beaumont the Master of Taoist Texts himself!! In other places Mister Beaumont is frequently very much anti anger and anti rage... Even says lots of quite wise things about this. But then for some strange reason when it is Awaken who is the angry one......Very different opinions, then Mr. Beaumont is quite supportive of Master Awaken's regularly showing plenty of firey temper! Why? {maybe I can answer this tooooo, later } But first---what are the wisest things Joss Beaumont the Master of Taoist Text has warned us about anger?~ Section 1 The first part is where Taoist Text gives us translations of ancient teachings---- 100% of them I can agree on! 1~Not Taoist but Christian Bible teaches on anger: It is going to lead people to downfalls and self destruction Very true! 2~Real sages who know using 'the mechanism of Tao' will accomplish their goals {even it is a decisively violent goal} without anger......not put themselves above other people......not spread harsh Qi....... That is another good translation by Mr Beaumont, and a teaching that is excellent! 3~Limiting angriness is the foundation and root......Liu I-Ming lived a long time after Qiu Chu-chih, but they agreed on this. Also a good translation! Maybe you forget some details of what you translated because your work is very prolific? 4~This one has obvious implications that anger, conflict, strife, fighting, blaming......all prevent people from ever finding the Tao. Another important teaching for reflection by all people taking the Path~ 5~Even 內業! This one is also a beautiful teaching from the sages of the faraway past~Good karma and merit for you to share it in translation!! Section 2 The second part Taoist Text has shared his own thoughts about anger, not translating---- lots of wise points as well! 6~Here, Mr Beaumont tells some descriptions of symptoms of "走火入魔 zǒuhuǒ rùmó ‘roving fire, entering demons’": This is some pretty good observations too. We could apply it to anybody with these symptoms......so why doesn't he apply this diagnosis to Master ______? 7~This is straightforward and simple I think (I didn't cut the list, there was only #1 & #2. According to Mr Text, anger is the 1st 'red-flag' ) 8~West and East? Sounds like familiarrrrr description of ______~~so it is OK if it is an eastern Taoist, but not a western Taoist?? Seems unfair to western ones if they are not allowed to do what Taiwanese Taoists can do!! 9~Succinct Really really. Really sad. 10~Some medical advice Good point. Very angry people probably can have some Qi imbalances and should perhaps watch for their health a bit. 11~medical advice part II Have you warned your friend yet? 12~All about: "super angry outbursts of neidan gibberish laced with insults" (Never seen this before......) Well, Awaken does not do those orbits, but......otherwise......Aren't you kind of describing some very similar things?? 13~Anger and paranoia: Yes, seldom too much of one without some of the other~~we have seen that here too~ 14~the Eloquent Conclusion...... Very well put indeed,indeed,indeed。 Luckily we have seen no 'wishing death' but plenty of 'being extremely angry' with 'an opponent in a dispute or on a competitor in the spiritual services marketplace'. ~~~~~ If we study the 14 quotes of Taoist Texts about anger, we will learn quite a bit. If we apply it to the person who he is always saying is being a very normal and typical Neidan master with all of her anger, actually we should be very worried about her, and very concerned. So something is a little bit confused, or somebody has changed his mind...... *Or somebody has maybe a philosophy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"*

Okee, but it's just that by using one of the Taoism skills imparted from Dr. Lee Fong-mao (the one who we talked about) it seems maybe you are not being totally....... Straightforward or honest?...... Or maybe there is a little bit of confusion or changing in your mind recently? I am very sorry to be rude and I try to choose the words extra carefully. I am not just randomly saying stuff. Actually: I can really demonstrate what I mean exoterically. But also I can drop it if you want. Mr Beaumont! As they say in France: Ooh la la! This question is very private, even more private than to ask a man what is the size of his 'little chicken' I guess this website isn't so good for shy people! But in fact, no problem. It is already 2022, no need for everybody to be shy and secretive like the ancient period. I can answer you, but I want no confusion. I visited many different neidan groups and temples before, also consulted many different relevant books. The simple fact is not everybody agrees on what is 'THE neidan' or 'i have the neidan' and so on. Some concepts are quite crazy. I need to clarify that we are talking about the same things, please clarify for me these questions: Please define in plain language what your exact meaning of 'the neidan' is Do you have it? What are all of the signs of having it? Which signs did you have? How did you verify it is not the delusion neidan [幻丹] Who has confirmed your neidan? What is the name of the person or the people or Hsien [仙] who confirmed for you? I think that is it, enough to have no confusion or miscommunication between anybody. I promise to reply to you after you clarify with 100% the same candor and directness as you, no funny business. This is not so hard to establish, but needs work. We can finish #1 and #2, then get to the #3 task after

The hasty hasty hasty boy You are welcome! For.......? Didn't you learn in lots of stuff in life it is not good to "come to conclusions" prematurely? That is a good way to make your companions and colleagues a little bit let down. It's the same rule in: Conversations Researching Making sweet sweet love I am observing that so far you are missing the ball in #1 and #2. Hopefully that only is because you are very focused on saving your patience for #3----you must have a verrrry satisfied lover, Mr. Joss Beaumont of Spying & Walnuts........ ............................... My point was: 'Taoist values', it is not possible to define, because the scope of Taoism is too broad and too old. Some people think anything from the Monkey King stories to the Book of Change can be "Taoist values." Some people think Kong Ming in a novel is Taoist values. I can even tell you a famous Hanlin advisor to the Kang-hsi emperor was also a Taoist 'neidanist' who thought buying fourteen years old sex slave girls for yin-yang practice is a good 'value'. Awful but true. Over 3000 years Taoist values is a big messy soup with any ingredient we can think of. So---- I'm just focusing on the basic 'values' of the founders of the Way that Awaken (and you too?) claim to have mastered and represent. Congratulations to you too! I am pleased to notice you concede this problem. Modern politicians are showing us every day: Any so-so mind can find a way to {appear to} win a debate, but only a great mind can see when he has lost one I can tell Before I 'go on' and explain the story of Sun Pu-er throwing rocks and some other stuff let me ask you one question: Do you really mean what you are saying about anger and Awaken now? I don't want to waste time to explain some things if you are just joking and will say 'actually I never meant what I am saying' or something like that ...... Is this sincerely what you believe about these things? Or simply a position in a debate for a little amusement? Sorry I want to be sure

蛤~~~~~? Did you become a member of this website by accident? And repeatedly join the threads about neidan to try to... Disinterest yourself??? Or maybe just here to share some feelings of passionate love for somebody special? No problem with that, Qiu Chu-ji is not here at the moment, and I think we are not monks and nuns, it's ok to have a little crush Actually when you meet a sentence like the one that you rejected it is always best to ask: -Was something lost in translation? -What is the context? What-who-when does it apply to? -What is the meaning in between the lines? -Does it means something different than I think? Thennnnnnn you might start to know if this 'philosophy/religion/whatever......proclaims this', or if we need to keep digging to discover what it is really proclaiming. Mr. Texts wrote '貪愛' as 'passionate love' but that is not the only way

Ha ha, yes I think you are right on that! It's ok, I will stay here since I don't think this thread can "unclog" any more and we are discussing about some things that still relate to earlier pages on this thread. Dr. Lee is a close friend of some neidan teachers in Taiwan. This is public information but I can't tell you what he is learning from them. The only reason is I don't know, because I have learned other things from him quite a long time ago, not neidan. We are not close, so I can't telephone him to say 'hi some people on a website would like to know if you are a practitioner of this or that thing'! I hope you understand I have learned some practices from different neidan teachers in my time researching in China and also in Taiwan. Actually, no you don't understand If you want to know my P.O.V. if a story reflects Taoist values, please say to me: "do you think it reflects Taoist values?" If you ask me this about the flood story, I will say: But what are Taoist values? The Taoist Canon has Hanfei-tzu, Sun-tzu, and Lieh-tzu inside of it! Just from these three books you can find all kinds of strange and even crazy ideas. Lots of people say the Legalist Hanfei-tzu is a favorite inspiration of harsh policies of Chinese communism, which is not so much what we usually think of for Taoism. But if his book can be in the Taoist Canon, this means Taoist values are not too easy to determine......Maybe almost impossible. For this discussion I am only interested in the flood story because you brought it to us to say that Qiu is not teaching some "mundane" 慈悲 (English: compassion) as we think... And you brought this story to justify Awaken being quite cruel to people here, suggesting getting angry and showing cruelty is ok and normal for Taoist masters. But if this story is just some modern comic book, or maybe just some random mistake on a Baidu page (perhaps based on a Jin Yong novel??), or some Buddhist story or folk tale mistakenly assigned to Qiu Chu-chi, then I think your P.O.V. is a bit wacky. This is why I ask you: besides Baidu and a comic book, what is your source for this tale? Does any Complete Reality book contain it? If so, please tell me which one. Then we can have a real answer for the real question I am asking: does this story reflect taoist values Does this story reflect Qiu Chu-chi's or Complete Reality values? For below: you did a very good job in your translation!!! I'm excited to see that. I removed the top and bottom paragraph to focus on the stanza which has the sentences I begged you to review. And you did do very nice work capturing their essence! here is what i have: 其五 神光灿 The Spiritual Light’s Radiance 推穷三教，诱化群生，皆令上合天为。慕道修真，行住坐卧归依，先须保身洁净。内常怀，愍物慈悲。挫刚锐，乃初心作用，下手根基。 欵欵磨砻情性，除贪爱、时时剪拂愚迷。福慧双全，开悟自入希夷。灵台内思不疚，任纵横，出处何疑。彻头了，尽虚空，裁断是非。 Explore the three teachings to the end, they are about the salvation of all living things, everything is given from above by Heavenly will. Those who perfect the truth, admiring the Tao, walking, sitting, standing and lying down should practice it single-mindedly, keeping pure peace in the body from beginning to end. In the bosom constantly there must be mercy and sympathy for all beings. In the beginning, you should remove your hardness and sharpness, this is the beginning of work and laying the foundation. Slowly and relentlessly polish your character, uproot feelings of passionate love, cut and sweep away the fetters of ignorance every hour. Combining both the good deeds and prajna, realization will open, entering into the invisible and inaudible. Then the abode of the spirit inside will not be ill, it will unfold freely along and across, based on this, there will be no more doubts. Having reached the end, exhausting the emptiness, the truths and lies will all be forgotten,. Maybe you are tired of me talking about Awaken. Actually I am too. It is sad we have to have this discussion. But......It's important. Because she is coming here to tell people she can represent the real understanding of neidan (and Buddhism too), and with her confidence and energy and seeming language expertise, I can see she has some people believing her. Please remember that you entered Qiu Chu-chi into our conversation as you were saying that her behavior is normal or at least has precedents for a master and teacher of neidan. But I disagreed with you, and then I reminded you about this poem by Qiu Chu-chi. And look at what he says! In the bosom constantly there must be mercy and sympathy for all beings. In the beginning, you should remove your hardness and sharpness, this is the beginning of work and laying the foundation. Slowly and relentlessly polish your character, uproot feelings of passionate love, cut and sweep away the fetters of ignorance every hour. Combining both the good deeds and prajna Only this simple advice that you expertly translated is what I wish for Awaken to consider when she is so angrily telling people they are wrong, evil, liars, and so on.

Actually Weng Pao-kuang(Baoguang) explained things very clearly in 悟真篇注釋 in the Sung times. In the Yuan times Chang Shi-hung mixed Weng's words into the words of Hsueh Shi in 紫陽真人悟真篇三註. Also Tai Shun-li who slightly changed Weng's words in 紫陽真人悟真篇注疏. It is true this made things more confusing. But if you just read 悟真篇注釋 there is only one section about something like 'transfer method' of moving Qi with your mind. This section can easily be proved to be added because it was copied from a medicine book that is also quoted in 紫陽真人悟真篇三註 and also 上陽子金丹大要. So we can still learn a lot from Weng Pao-kuang Too bad you will not be able to read my post of over 50 % agreeing with you......Instead you will think I am just here for bullying you...Maybe I am not the only one who needed a beach holiday?