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Not interested. Is it your opinion, or you have read that in a book? It sounds cultish; you create a dependency and imply that someone must learn neidan. From your words, it feels almost as if life would be worthless if one doesn't learn or master those practices. You come across as desperate throughout this entire thread. I don't believe anyone must or has to learn "neidan." I would suggest focusing on basic cultivation practices, such as meditation and energy work, until a solid foundation is built and you begin to make progress, rather than seeking "high-level" practices.

Adding a blend of spices to food nourishes the astral body (the body of sensations), bringing vitality and energy. Adding a blend of aromatic oils and ghee butter nourishes the ethereal body. Indian cuisine is renowned for its excellence, largely due to the impeccable art of mixing and blending various spices and herbs.

You cannot avoid death. When will people stop claiming achievements for themselves for something that happens naturally? The sun rises and sets over the horizon, not because of any "secret" alchemical practice you may have performed. All these self-proclaimed masters will die just like all other humans, and they will age in the same way. There is no extraordinary or "secret" teaching that sets them apart. If there is one thing you can do with your life, it is to live it free from attachments, obsessions, and regrets. This will dramatically improve your day-to-day experience and prevent you from becoming a dependent slave to a particular teaching, guru, book, or any other kind of imaginary idea.

How do you know you are talented?

Years of practice and training do not necessarily materialize into practical results. Some people spend 50+ years practicing without achieving anything worth mentioning. There are plenty of methods out there that don't result in substantial changes in a person's inner self, even if they spend their entire life doing those; they are superficial. We have had people come to us who had been practicing for 6 or 10 years or more and some who had been teaching themselves. They were told that they had to do the basic exercises again with everyone starting the course, and upon doing so and writing initial reports, it was obvious that they were lacking the skills to even properly complete the beginner exercises. You could make a simple thing: sit down, relax, take a piece of A4 paper, and write in brackets all the abilities or 'siddhis' you have obtained from your cultivation training that a normal person in a mundane life cannot have. What did the cultivation give you? It is generally considered bad manners to brag about how many years you have practiced or about your age in cultivation circles. Both of these things are overshadowed by the level of attainment. The one with a higher level of cultivation will be treated as an Elder with a certain degree of respect. How many of them are real, and how many are fake, pretending? If you had third-eye development, you could at least investigate and check the spiritual development of 'masters.' I have observed far too many cases of underdeveloped, untrained, and unawakened individuals taking on the circus 'clown' role of a sage or guru and successfully fooling tens of thousands into devotion and submission.

Having cute names for the practices is not - everything. I would personally judge based on tangible results people gain and how it transforms their being, not on how they name their practices. Cut off bullshit should be among the early stages of development a prospective awakened being goes through. At this stage people lose appeal to mysticality, copulating dragons and tigers, riding heavenly chariots, and entering reversed seventh elixir celestial kingdoms in search of purple flower of neverending stupidity. Nobody is using Facebook in 2024/2025. It has been dead for a decade. They go there to advertise/sell courses. That is how I saw that as well, a quick cash grab. The first course curriculum teaches nothing but breathing. The lecture on third eye mentions nothing in relation to real third eye cultivation training.

Esoteric practices are not safe. It involves the alteration of subtle bodies and mental faculties. There is a risk of developing mental instability and schizophrenic symptoms. If foundations are weak, people may even lose control over their perception channels. Such channels will have information and signals that can materialize as voices or sudden ideas, which the host may turn to believe as being factual/real. This risk is with almost everyone who is dabbling with esoteric; there is less risk if the practice is skewered towards the physical body (neigong, qigong) and more risk if the practice is mental or intellectual. Think of a broken mechanism; you can have hypersensitivity, but instead of a proper ESP ability and skills that produce valuable - genuine information, they would randomly give signals based on internal deviation. One of the most effective methods to avoid problems is peer review. Have someone to keep you in check. That person must be skilled and mentally sound. The second is building a solid foundation, with gradual unlocking of the third eye and complete control over thought processes and brain capabilities. Think about five to ten years of daily training, rather hard for most people. But if you want to have powers and have them under your control, and not the vice versa, a sacrifice is necessary.

Karma exists, it is just different from what most people imagine or think it to be.

I know this user got banned again for something else, but this should be an example of a poor behavior and bannable offense. Adding nothing to the discussion. He tries to launch a personal attack because his beliefs/ideals are doubted/questioned. What Is comical is the degree of self-certainty and delusion. Did he really think sharing a screenshot of my article from our website would be an effective attack? The stuff written on the website is not only non-imaginary; we actually teach this. I am the living practitioner and embodiment of Ancient Arts. What we share comes from practical experience, not a cultist theory or "bookworm" knowledge to debate. I fully expect students to walk in my steps, not just think of it as some unachievable story. After some training in a genuine school, you will be able to exit your body on will and form a dense energy body that allows you to travel and explore the spiritual world. Spontaneous movements trigger wherever nerves are getting stimulated. There is a basic neurology test with hammer and knee. If you are having issues arising with your current practices, it would be common sense to stop them, and take a break.

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It is good that people come out and write about their experiences like this. Self-learning and self-initiating, paired with reading random books, is a recipe for disaster, especially when the topic of study is occult and magic.

While India has ancient roots and a lot of advanced cultivators, as far as I know, almost no one of them is publicly available. Those who are public are usually made-up conmen, false gurus who have not even touched internal cultivation practices. They are more interested in a celebrity lifestyle, driving motorbikes and helicopters and enjoying luxury lives at the expense of the "followers." False gurus merely parasitize on ancient teachings; they assume the posture and outlook of a "sage," pretend to be spiritual, and talk nonsense, sometimes mixed with quotes from ancient texts. There is no genuine spirituality behind them; they cannot lead anyone somewhere they have not been themselves. Often, those gurus are leading violent cults, covering up all sorts of crimes. Osho is one of the publicly known examples.\ That said, I would not bother to read anything written by SSRS, Sadhguru, or the rest of all the similar but different personas. Surely, you can find Bhagavadgita, Patanjali Yoga Sutras, and some other original texts instead of opting for new age scams?

I once met a "Master" who claimed that excessive energy and spiritual power converts into body mass. The more lies and nonsense you accept, the further away you are moving from the truth, from ability to cultivate, to open third eye, advance spirituality and anything of that sort. 1. The misguided students who when experiencing problems with their body, instead of seeking solution and change of lifestyle, believe those are signs of "progress" in 2. The Ancient Arts getting desecrated and defiled by trickery, lies and deception, made to pull wool over eyes. Professional swindlers with a tied-up tongue who will claim whatever imperfection and flaw found in them to be a sign of "spiritual development" and "internal attainments."

The masses love to create a glorified Image of a Guru and mythically imbue it with all kinds of enigmatic, mystical, and supernatural qualities, then kowtow to and revere it. It becomes comical at times. You have many threads on this board related to anything that Damo teaches or ever talked about, and they get overrun by his followers praising the great teacher. The thing is, I know plenty of people around me who are Damo's age or older, who look much better than him, have more energy/vitality than him, and have better intellectual and physical body development than him. But they never did: - TCM, Bagua, Martial Arts, Qigong, Daoism, Internal Alchemy, or anything else related to what this person teaches or practices. They never taught and never pretended to be someone special. So, the question is, why even bother? It is unlikely that you will gain more from a system in 5+ years than a person who has taught it for 25+ years. We have an observable living end result of this method. It does not seem to be anything good. It is a clear bottleneck and a dead end. What you can get, however, is one of the many pathogenic qualities the teacher has. Learning is not always a good thing, you can learn bad things, and copy mistakes of your teachers. Not all food is good, not all knowledge and information is beneficial. This is what people see without utilising ESP abilities. You ask anyone who is not related to this school/system and not brainwashed by the cult they usually give out similar statements. To be clear I don't have anything personal against him. It is not my concern what people are doing with their lives. In general views, I am pro-cultivation and I am not supportive of degradation. But I also believe in a freedom of choice, and if people chose degradation and delusion, so be it.

Someday, people will realize that talking a lot about something does not equal competence, knowledge, or skill. Talking is just talking. I would personally avoid people who talk too much, as this would mean instability, deviations on the level of "Vishudha chakra," and lack of intelligence.