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Post your stories of encounters with the supernatural!
Neirong replied to helpfuldemon's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
There is nothing supernatural in this world, only a lack of knowledge or ignorance (or both). For a blind man to see something may feel extraordinary. Similarly, for a virgin to have sexual contact or for a beggar to get wealth. Some people feel special when they sense qi for the first time. For a person who lived thousands of years in the past, airplanes and cars would be supernatural. For an Adept of Ancient Arts, interaction with multidimensional reality, sentient beings of other worlds, higher energies, and having siddhis are day-to-day activities. It is not any more supernatural activity than making a toast for breakfast -
You have not developed any serious issues, yet, just stop overthinking stuff. Practicing out of books is a bad idea in general, that is not only true for Mantak, but for any book.
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Alchemical elixirs exist in magic tradition, and it is not some mystical substance or something as trivial as juice or blood. It is the liquid electrolyte-rich carrier drink imbued and charged with massive spiritual force. It can be scented or brewed with herbs and certain minerals, but those are not the main components. It is hard to come by unless you live nearby with an alchemical specialist, can afford this kind of product, and have access to it with your school or teacher. As Master manually creates each elixir, the charge in a drink does not last long either. There is no way they will sell those to random untrained uninitiated people. Those things are never sold or advertised on open market. Someone who is taking elixir must know all the required practices to use it for cultivation purposes and not just steam with energy overload. Everything you can read in books and myths about elixirs is missing the central part, an enlightened powerful being spending his time to charge and alter the quality of a substance. As for fruit juices, overload of sugar - fructose has similar impact on the liver as alcohol. That's the reason why frugivores age and die prematurely.
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Help with reversing effects of visualization
Neirong replied to Cultivation1's topic in Healthy Bums
Asking questions is the right thing to do, having a critical thinking ability also should be encouraged. So why even go to school? Or university? Why learn maths and physics from Teachers? Why train martial arts or sports with professional coaches? You see no value in it, so why humanity has been doing this "nonsensical pretense" for generations? Clearly you are smarter than everyone else ever living on this planet and can cheat your way through any art or field of knowledge without a Teacher. It's for me however when I go train martial arts I take a service of experienced MMA fighter, and pay 250-300$ per month just for few training sessions. Because I value my time and I want optimal results from training. -
Help with reversing effects of visualization
Neirong replied to Cultivation1's topic in Healthy Bums
No cash can compensate for internal damage, mental deviation, or being stuck in cultivation for a lifetime. Similarly, no cash can be equalized to a genuine siddhi, third eye opening, awakening, or enlightenment. How much would you pay for immortality? Being able to preserve self and continue path through the cycle of rebirth? With an experienced Master, you learn how to become strong, so you can solve your issues and not be a fragile glass cannon, who breaks under pressure, and relies on external help. Who is clueless about the path and does random practices from internet forums or random books. People often come to us with "one or another issue" even before they start training. Mundane life in samsara is a breeding ground for issues. Proper training can correct many of those problems and internal issues on the way, which is priceless and cannot be evaluated in paper value. -
Not all paths lead to the same place, many teachings lead absolutely nowhere, and many others will leave you broken, weak, and mentally unstable. You have logical fallacy in statements that should be addressed. It is the same as saying that everyone who walks on the planet eventually becomes an MMA world champion or that everyone who opens their mouth becomes the greatest singer. Any real achievements on the cultivation path require many right factors and many years of effort.
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Help with reversing effects of visualization
Neirong replied to Cultivation1's topic in Healthy Bums
Practicing without a teacher always leads to one or another issue. You have no idea what you are doing and why, no path forward, no progression, no siddhi, and it will probably take as much time if not more to undo what you have done to yourself. -
I would warn against breatharianism, sun eating, and prana food. This dangerous pseudo esoterical cult has claimed many lives of easily impressionable people. The cult grows on wishful thinking, cognitive bias, and ignorance. Preachers and followers of non-eating autonomous lifestyle religions are unaware of the basics of physics and biology. Scamgong teachers sell breatharianism seminars while eating food, cynically pushing followers into a dangerous lie. OP should rethink his path, as many who followed this one already have tombstones.
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I wrote this article a while ago this year, as we have experienced an influx of new-age star-seed (the chosen ones) practitioners claiming they have "Third Eye" already open without any training and just knew it from reading online articles. So, I thought to share the experience from an actual tradition of Ancient Arts where we develop those skills in Adepts. You can read the Full Article on the website. Those who came to us were thought to have Third Eye open due to having some sensations mid-eyebrow or being told so during a "reading" session by another visionary oracle. So short overview of what Third Eye is not. Sensations of a hole in a forehead. Feeling pressure in the forehead. Sensing Qi. Feeling that something is different. Feeling yourself special, different from others. Emotional Garbage Inner Voices Seeing colors with closed eyes Being able to imagine things Third Eye Development Simply opening Third Eye does not guarantee anything as its function is highly tied to both levels of meditation skill and level of Energy. Opening Third Eye without energy work and preparation is foolish, as you are draining yourself when it functions. Running Third Eye requires a meditation skill; if you have random thoughts in your head, you can forget about having TE. Developing Third Eye potential is done via a particular set of Visualization training. If you never did proper visualization, you may struggle here. Third Eye is a part of Magic tradition training. We don't train in Magic to develop Third Eye, we train in Magic, and Third Eye develops on the way. Third Eye levels overview 1. Fog - the most accessible and easiest level, you start seeing a dense fog; if you make a ball of energy between your hands, you see it; if you make an energy beam between your fingers, you see it. 2. Vibration - you see more than just fog. You see vibrations coming from above and below. You can see lifeforce glowing in objects. You can see other people as vibrating energy fields. 3. Deep Ocean - a state of a true Magus. Spiritual reality becomes denser than physical. You will not only see energy moving and rotating, but all the things moving around, energy creatures, parasites, and microorganisms. There are higher levels as well. But even level 2 is extremely rare, and I think level 3 is enjoyed by less than a handful of high-level cultivators on a planet.
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I wonder how people would proceed with the trial and error approach when it is not something in their imagination but a real tangible chance to die or suffer pain and chronic disease worse than death with each step made, and you have to make more than 9999+ steps. Also, how would one think if they were locked in a closed room with a safe strongbox where you need to enter a code to proceed and survive The number of possible combinations when opening the safe is 9 trillion, and only one of them is opening the door. Both scenarios are reality for people without a path of cultivation and without tradition/teacher.
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Internal Arts and Mental Processing / Intelligence
Neirong replied to anshino23's topic in General Discussion
Yes, through proper magic training. Not possible in Daoist tradition, at least I have not observed any. Meditating on Lower Dan Tien and stretching will certainly not make anyone smarter. Elon Musk is not smart. That is only an image (Illusion) created for the audience, of an "Iron Man", or "Genius Inventor", a lot of people in this world (Idiocracy) don't see reality through the veil of Maya, and buy all kinds of imaginary stuff as 100% truth. That is also why people end up "training" for decades under people with no real skills and qualifications.- 28 replies
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Self-created cultivation manuals are like children's drawings of the universe and discussing the world's principles with someone who believes in Santa.
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That would explain a lot of things about this topic.
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Commiting to a system: Damo Mitchell vs Adam Mizner
Neirong replied to tsuki's topic in Systems and Teachers of
Luckily, there are reviews for both Damo's and Adam's systems. Make your pick. Adam Mizner Damo Mitchell -
The whole reason women avoid you is that you are "Obsessed." Women are intuitive beings and pick up all the false and pretense, and they would feel if a person is a weirdo and avoid him. That is even without you telling anything of the above to a girl. Treating females like an object with some set parameters and types is also a dehumanizing approach, making me wonder why you even want to be in a relationship with a woman if you don't treat them any differently than a sex toy to satisfy primitive urges. All the practices you have done are unnecessary to attract women, and doing exercises with such poor motivation is on its own a factor that can cause internal blockages and karmic issues. Trying to awaken kundalini and other things without a Teacher's guidance is a sure way to break something internally. Once broken, nobody will be able to help you with that.
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Ascension, Galactic Beings
Neirong replied to Cultivation1's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
It would be best to forget the idea of kind, benevolent alien gods helping everyone to ascend. This unhealthy entitlement to other beings doing "your" work is the primary reason many fail at development and cultivation. People don't want to do anything alone, waiting until some deity appears and solves their problems. However sweet the idea can be, it is nothing but wishful thinking. I know powerful beings, and they all mind their own business. Even to look at the hypothesis, "helping humanity to ascend" would be akin to doing homework for your child. In contrast, you can do it once or twice. Eventually, you will get a dependent child who cannot develop and grow skills/qualities, as you have done his homework for him—stolen the valuable experience. -
Initiation in Magic is real thing. It is not passed through "books" and to random people. Thus, you can never learn Magic from reading books or from listening to lectures. Same reason, that you can never learn Magic from someone who is not a Magus himself and not Initiated. The process involves Master transmitting non-verbally qualities and keys to practice directly onto students mental fields. A practice that otherwise would not be possible to make and doors/path that would never open, thus becomes possible to walk. Not everyone is getting initiated of those who seek training, as the traditional selection process is rational and has strict requirements. Applicant has to show all the right qualities and prerequisites, and be capable of doing practices. Someone who shows mental instability for example or lack of ethical conduct would not be given initiation.
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I have checked this Mark Rasmus guy linked above. And he even has 167+ videos course on initiation into hermetic. It is funny how he has no initiation and no level (absolute zero) of development in magic and is trying to teach things he has no clue about. He could have enrolled in our Foundation program at his level, but passing it would be difficult and unlikely. Once you learn too much junk/fake esoteric arts, developing properly can become too difficult or impossible. It is like a broken vessel that can not be filled with water. You have to rebuild the whole structure. Also, those energetic manipulations he has shown on a dummy student are useless. Him, teaching martial arts and fajin is another joke; in any fight with any beginner MMA, he won't stand more than 2 seconds upright condition.
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Experiments in Weather Magic
Neirong replied to Zhongyongdaoist's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Working with the weather, you need to consider the overall balance of the atmosphere. Creating rain in a particular place is not impossible, but it may result in a drought and massive fires in another area. It ends up as in the anecdote, "We wanted to make things better, but it turned out as usual."- 102 replies
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I don't know if you have read our website before posting (it seems like you have been in a rush), but the challenger is a mini-course that costs less than $50. It was free at first until we saw that people join and do not do any work, thus wasting our time and failing their opportunity to develop. There seems to be no discipline or respect for the practice when people get it for "free." They also get zero results and zero progress anywhere. The mini meditation course is NOT the Foundation program. The Foundation program is five years long and spans over 16 complete modules (courses) and about 4000 hours of dedicated training, with 2 Masters watching you and making adjustments/corrections when needed.
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The Hermetic Tradition or Lineage
Neirong replied to Apech's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Masters of Magic tradition were able to carry bits of knowledge through the process of reincarnation; thus, it would be hard to track any particular roots or place. Most things were never recorded or shared publicly, and those that were, as usual, are missing the keys and critical pointers you can only obtain in tradition and through direct teaching with the Master. Instead of a lineage like in Chinese arts from teacher to student, that is subject to death/corruption/lost practices over time. Masters of Magic cultivate full consciousness, or immortality of self, and pass the knowledge to themselves, continuing cultivation through centuries. When you cultivate dan tien, it does not matter if you get to a level of John Chang or above; you will lose it and everything accumulated upon death. High-level Masters of Magic can save their crucial progress and spiritual qualities in the tradition and progress further with each consecutive rebirth. Most importantly, starting to develop at a young age and being in control of your future life. It may seem that Magic tradition is dead or non-existent sometimes, but Masters reincarnate and don't bother teaching or being public. -
I am coming from the Magus esoteric tradition. I am an active teacher and practical researcher of ancient arts. Following the path of wisdom and internal power, and helping newcomers to start walking this path developing real abilities and meaningful changes in life. Daoism is also one of the fields we studied. I may share some of my knowledge and experience on the path.