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explanations can be found here http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21301&page=1 YM

A report about last year seminar http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/jan/13/notes-chinese-cave/ YM

Here we go again, what a sad story ... http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Pai-Nei-Kung-ebook/dp/B006NZWUUE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top YM

The begging requirement is not "an aspect of Daoism" but a requirement in certain sects, in particular the early Quanzhen and derivated like Longmen. Every school has its methods to attain its goals and, all long Chinese history, there has been quite a debate between schools that considered themselves "orthodox" against what they perceived as "unorthodox". So there is not a ''single way" but many ways, each one with its characteristics and methods. It suffices to find one which has produced good results/masters and follow it's requirements. YM

My friend, one can certainly try to twist words in order to try and make them fit their wishful thinking but that doesn't change the facts. The early Quanzhen masters were ALL beggars and were required to give up their wealth, in case they had it, as been extremely poor and begging was one of the MUST in their Way of attaining sainthood. So extreme poverty was a requirements to be pursued THROUGHOUT their lives, it suffices to go through the works of Quanzhen founder, of his first line disciples and the many second generations to find concrete evidence to put the words into correct perspective. Best YM

I was replying to Ish, as you can see from my quote above, similarly to what you replied to the "200 y.o. master" allegation YM

"One of the most prominent traits of the early Quanzhen school was its ascetism. Hagiographic sources and personal testimonies indicate that all of the early Quanzhen masters lived austere lives and underwent periods of intense self-denial. Throughout their lives they followed the ideal of 'pure poverty' (qingpin) and relied on begging as their primary means of sustenance. " http://imageshack.us/g/824/001dmxg.jpg/ YM

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All daoist teachers teach for free, but they do not teach "the public" and instead only pass the tradition to the few who have the destiny (緣分) to receive it. So you will hardly read about them on the web YM

As taught by Quanzhen Founder Wang Chongyang, teacher of Longmen founder Qiu Chuji: Someone asked, "What is the marvelous principle of cultivating Reality?" [Wang Zhe] answered, saying "First you must get rid of your nameless confused thoughts. Secondly, give up coveting, attachments, liquor, money, sex and anger. This is how to train yourself. A person's whole body completely has in it the principles of Heaven and Earth. Heaven and Earth contain and nourish the myriad things, and therefore the myriad things abound between Heaven and Earth. [...] 或問曰。如何是修真妙理。 答曰。第一先除無名煩惱。第二休貪戀酒色財氣。此者。便是修行之法。夫人之一身。皆具天地之理。天地所以含養萬物。萬物所以盈天地間。 Chongyang zhenren jinguan yusuo jue 重陽真人金關玉鎖訣 YM

Wow, I guess he should get enormous money for seminars then ... I did not say if he dies his hair or not as I don't know, just like yourself, I just reported a common Chinese custom. Maybe you should try to ask him at next seminar and see what he tells you? YM

Hu Jintao, born 1942 Zhu Rongji, born 1928 And most other chinese men with some money or power (usually both), or even common people, DIE THEIR HAIR YM

http://www.examiner.com/holistic-science-spirit-in-national/new-scientific-breakthrough-proves-why-acupuncture-works?mid=51 YM

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/the-supernaturalist-levitation.html YM

Hello Stig, as I am sure you are aware Master Ni fled to Taiwan (not Hong Kong) where he taught for a number of years before moving to the US. At the time he was a techer of Martial Arts and most of his books in chinese were MA related. For more info I suggest the informative first-hand account in issue 3 (I seem to recall) of the Journal of Daoist Studies (http://www.threepinespress.com/?p=6) YM

If you have no guts, in "close quarter fighting", you will be too busy filling up your underpants to think about your flashy 'fajin' YM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute YM

I am afraid this "simple stage" described by Mr. Phillips does not exist in Taijiquan YM

Basically, this is Lingkong jin I also suggest everyone to go throu all of the excellent Derren Brown videos which very much concern not only to this specific topic but to a lot of posts on this forum IMO Best YM

No, in my opinion this is just wishful thinking but to each his own In any case, even if one has real 'jin' it is still useless in a fight, unless he has the number one quality necessary in Martial Arts: guts If you want to see real 'jin' you better look in this direction YM PS: it seems you are now talking about 'empty-fo(a)rce' so that would be so-called 'lingkong jin' so I think you better get your terminology straight

What do you want to see 'fajin' for, I wonder 'Fajin' means nothing in a confrontation, totally nothing, it has just become a fashionable items sold to the gullible. And by the way some kinds of 'jin' are totally invisible thou of course can ben felt Much if not all 'fajin' that you see on the web is just people shaking Ask them to mesure the impact force of their strikes and compare to those of a beginner (western) boxer ... you will be surprised YM

There are dozen types of 'jin', which is simply a 'trained/integrated' kind of power which has also different characteristics in different martial arts (Taijiquan does not have exclusivity of 'jin'). The different 'jin' can be 'fa(ed)' (issued) in many ways, resulting in a huge number of combinations. Chen Yanlin lists, I seem to remember, a couple of dozen 'jins' in his Taijiquan book published in the '40. Anyway, I see the logic expressed in the method and stipulations describes in the original post has having very, very little to do with actual 'fajin' ... if any YM

With all due respect it seems you guys have no idea about what 'fajin' is YM