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There were actually threats of a lawsuit the last time we tried this. The assumption is that they will only agree to the publication of a video if it appears that they have discovered fraud; if the video is used to validate something of this nature, it will harm their reputation. We had a legal contract drafted. This was done to protect us against such a thing in the future. By signing it, they lose their ability to revoke consent to publish and their ability to sue if we did so against their wishes. This seems to be very off-putting; we've contacted a few dozen people, but none are willing to sign it as part of the demonstration. We have also contacted every single paranormal challenge we are aware of and have been told that, because the human body can act as an antenna, EMF is the most likely cause. We have demonstrated in national forest service land, far, far away from any power line or power source, in places where there is no cellphone service even. This does not seem to affect their decision not to investigate.

If the evidence we can provide convinces them, great! If the evidence we can provide does not convince them, then that's unfortunate. We do the best we can with what we have.

The motivation here is to convince serious seekers that this is real.

He's got a fleet of old Ford Crown Victorias he maintains, he seems extremely intelligent and articulate in his interviews. I am a huge fan of him now even though rockabilly isn't my genre.

Our demonstration requires a location with no power lines nearby to minimize emf, a grounding rod, and an LED.

We've been in contact with Jalen, the person in this video, and his heart is in the right place. He desperately wants to pursue training in Mo Pai. I think deep down he knows there is a greater potential that humans can aspire to, and pop culture like DBZ and Star Wars speak to the deeper parts of his psyche. I think he is a bit misguided, but probably not a bad person.

Our group believes that the risks outweigh the benefits. We will progress as far as we can with our current system and keep an eye out for evidence of something better. In the history of mo pai, it took hundreds of years and hundreds of men trying different methods and dying when they discovered incorrect methods to figure out the correct path forward. Many men died to blaze this trail, and we are not too keen to re-invent the wheel at our own expense. We will either continue with what we do have until we can no longer move forward or locate an alternate system to move to.

Maybe this one?

I want to jam my foot down on the accelerator, full throttle. I am ready for an intelligence explosion of cambrian proportions. There are infinite solutions to our problems, some more elegant than others. France, for example, recycles its nuclear waste; the vast majority of it can be reused as fuel, and only a very small amount needs to be vitrified in glass, which renders it safe to handle and stable for long-term geological storage. In 300 years, it will approach normal background levels of radiation. The type of reactors we use today were designed to be small, 60 megawatt reactors for use in submarines, and the inventor expressed serious concerns when they were scaled up to 1000 megawatts as containment and safety could not be guaranteed. He lost his job at Oak Ridge National Labs for advocating for design changes to prioritize safety. We could make smaller, completely safe reactors and recycle our nuclear waste like France does, but it would cost more money to do it the right way, so we don't. We could make all our waste streams recyclable, pass strict laws, and mandate that the laws be enforced. It is possible for progress to happen while protecting the environment; we live in a culture of laziness, greed, and corruption, though.

Looking at the fossil record, this swarm of nanobots has been laser-focused on recursive self-optimization for billions of years. It seems crystal clear where all this is headed, what the point of all this is, and what the end goal is; no question whatsoever remains in my mind. Of course, just like in a Rorschach test, people tend to see patterns emerge from the noise that reflect what they wish to see.

I'm not omniscient; I wasn't there when John spoke those words, nor when Kosta wrote them down. I can only assume Kosta didn't lie; John actually said that, and John probably believed what he was saying was true. John was human, and humans make mistakes and believe things that aren't true sometimes. That said, John's opinion holds more weight than most due to the evidence he's provided.

Maybe I misunderstood what you were asking. You asked me originally what the point of Mo Pai was, and I did my best to try and answer that. This short story by Isaac Asimov, read by Leonard Nimoy (Spock), might help to answer that question better than I could. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54415-the-last-question-isaac-asimov-read-by-leonard-nimoy/ The vast majority of people spend their lives watching garbage television, eating garbage food, staying drunk and high, and doing anything they can to disconnect and distract themselves from reality until it's their time to die or get tossed into a nursing home to be forgotten about by society. I believe there is a purpose to all this, and that's not it. For any problem, there are an infinite number of solutions, some more elegant than others. Mo Pai is just one possible answer, and probably not even the most elegant one.

I can't get into that for the reasons stated previously. It's not my intention to be rude or curt, so please don't take it that way.

May I have access please?

John said there were 10 others like him alive, but that was 20 years ago; who knows if that figure is still accurate? If so, that means there are at most 10 other systems that do what Mo Pai does. This all, of course, assumes John's claim was true.

It's amazing how many people I and others in our group have argued with over the years about how we're all power-hungry Son Goku wannabes who want to fly and shoot fireballs from our palms. That's not it at all, not even a little bit. The end goal of Mo Pai isn't enlightenment either. Consider how the earth was once a barren rock, similar to how the moon or Mars are now. How amazing is it that the earth is covered in solar-powered, self-replicating nanomachines that harvest energy from photons to self-replicate and modify their own structures to better adapt to their environment? With all kinds of amazingly complex feedback loops and webs of interactions between different types of nanomachines, these nanomachines eventually figured out the advantage of computation to better adapt and respond to the environment. This has led us to where we are now, and hopefully things keep moving in the same direction they have for billions of years. It's absolutely dumbfounding how amazing that is, because it would sound like science fiction to me if I couldn't look out my kitchen window and witness it first hand. That's my opinion: life is pretty @#$ing amazing. I do not follow any organized religion; my view is that something beyond what could be called a miracle is happening right now, right here, but am I like an insect that is too stupid to grasp its profundity, just as ants can't work differential equations. Since I was a child, though, it seems obvious to me that we are meant to be doing something, like there is a point to all this, some collective goal this swarm of nanomachines is working towards. That end goal is not watching Honey Boo Boo, Duck Dynasty, the Kardashians, NASCAR, the NFL, WWE, etc. The end goal is not to stay drunk on cheap beer and microwave meals and work a 9-to-5 till we wind up in a nursing home. We are supposed to be doing something, and when I look to nature, it becomes crystal clear what that something is. If you watch a time-lapse video of an acorn growing into an oak tree, it's fascinating to see the process by which it absorbs energy, pulls water and minerals from the earth, and CO2 from the air, and uses these things to grow and expand. Life is absolutely wild; think of the energy coursing through that tree, powering it. Mo Pai is focused around the extraction, collection and fusion of yin and yang energies, much like a tree does for much the same reason. Like I said earlier, I don't follow any organized religion, and I am not a man who likes scripture, but this bit right here really makes me think that maybe Jesus, if he said these words, really understood the point of Mo Pai: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html The Gospel of Thomas ... These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded. ... 1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death." ... Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move." ... Jesus said, "When you make the two into one, you will become children of Adam, and when you say, 'Mountain, move from here!' it will move." ... Damn the soul that depends on the flesh." ... Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]." ... Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit

We know of no better options. Our choices are to give up or make the best of what we do have.

Then, if every teacher who is able is unwilling to do so, I guess we have to hope another person like John shows up or stick with what we have. We've all spent tens of thousands of dollars chasing fake systems and teachers.

Certainly, a private demonstration under controlled conditions would be better, but if we are talking about evidence that can be mass produced and transmitted, that's as good as it gets.

If we had been wealthy, retired, 18-year-old, ethnically Chinese Indonesian citizens who began training with John in the late 80s and early 90s and had been able to dedicate 100 hours per week to training until the present day, we might have come away with a lot more opportunity than we have now. Many of the criticisms you and others throw at us are not without merit. Jim only gave us training and video of John up to level 2b; that's as far as his knowledge and experience went. Even now that we do have video of John teaching later levels, which has been translated from Indonesian, we don't have people who can answer questions for us if need be. That being said, what other choice do we have? We have looked high and low for good evidence for other systems and not found it. Give us good evidence for a system like Mo Pai, and we'll jump ship. I think the only reason a person should pursue Mo Pai is that they've examined all the alternatives and found nothing comparable in terms of evidence.