Zeus

Hi Artiss, After sifu Chang closed the door for all westerners for further training, Kostas presented his own method of self defence called "Pammachon" based on his experience of 35 years on martial arts. The website is www.pammachon.gr Kostas is my teacher, so I got all this info right from the source. Take care Zeus

Of course they didnt know in sifu's house about the special "charge" of Verdesi. Otherwise, they wouldn't throw him out of the house. They are not crazy, you know. As for the "work" thing, if someone has never worked in his life, he has no evaluation for the money. He/she can charge whatever he/she thinks, because he can't understand how difficult is to earn money( in a honest way) I guess this is a matter of ethics too... Zeus

I didnt see you question me, about the amount of Euros Verdesi charged for "tourism" in sifu's house. Though he received teachings from Chang for free, then himself charged money from a "thirsty" student for tutorship. I question his ethics, I question his morality.I'm in no position to know about him and his relationship with his current teacher Jiang. I only speak for the things I know, regarding sifu Chang. How come he is been kicked off from sifu's house, if he was a descent character? Ethics and dignity, is much more important than gaining "power". And this man has no ethics or dignity. I don't question his teacher's power(obviously they are strong), but his lack of morality. He created a bussiness, on Kostas footsteps and books. And I said it's sad, addressing to his students. They can't see that their teacher has the character of a spoiled child.A child that never worked in his life, and raised to be an "anthropologist". Zeus

I see that the purpose of Sean, and his friends of the "immortal" David, is somehow accomplished. A new "army" of potential customers is about to grow up in the near future. The thread started as sifu's Chang debate, but somehow in the way Sean involved in a delicate(or not) manner.Good luck with your "bussiness".I hope that the "immortal" Verdesi, will achieve higher levels in the future, along with an equal bank account. Don't fear my friends! There are many caves in China, and many thousands of candles to be burned, in order to create theatrical atmosphere for the westerners!! The "anthropologist" that the rumors say he charged 500-600 euros just to show sifu Chang to a westerner, has many solutions for the "buyers". The "immortal" Verdesi, was kicked out of Chang's house, because of the "tourist attraction" he created. Beware all,from these "masters". Learn about them. What did they created in their lives? Did they had to work, like the majority of us?Did they ever value the earning of money due to work, or they inherited a large amount, and then ask from us 5000 euros? Did they had to get up early every morning, to get the money to support their families? Enough said about Verdesi and his followers. He is the only to blame,not his followers, because he took advantage of Kostas and his books. Where he was all these years that Kostas was travelling to Indonesia? Kostas travelled so many times, taught so many people, and never got a dime about that. He just wanted to check his future student first, and then accept him. But now, if you have a credit card, then you have a "master". So sad indeed...

Hello to all, I'm new here.Congratulations for this forum.I hope we can have some good conversations here.

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Hi orb, Kostas is no more associated with John Chang, and nei kung practise. He established a system of martial aplications and principles, called Pammachon. The website is www.pammachon.gr. His latest book is about martial arts in ancient Greece and the Mediterranean.I think in Inner Traditions, but i'm not so sure. Take care Zeus