Sir Darius the Clairvoyent

So summarized, wolves in sheeps clothing

In addition, the idea of a middle man (mr pope) is so unchristian as it could be.

Allow me to qoute Nietzche: “All that once was evil is now good; all that once was good is now evil. They seek to transvalue all values – they are the ones who break the tables of old values, the breakers, the lawbreakers; they are the creators.”:

Following Your logic, was it Gods will that made the lutherans victorious in the 30 years war?

Thats beautifull

@Cobie I do not understand much of eastern thought. Where should I begin?

I dont follow brother

Well, instead of focusing on the most violent pre Christian polities, why not focus on the most violent european institution by a long shot? Namley the chatolic church.

I dont know him (or her, dk) after reading this thread. Not that I know anything about him, but he seems genuine and true to himself, with a sense of humour.

@Thrice Daily you mentioned somewhere that christianity created the west… others might say it destroyed Europe. "And so she opens her book with a potent description of black-robed zealots from 16 centuries ago taking iron bars to the beautiful statue of Athena in the sanctuary of Palmyra, located in modern-day Syria. Intellectuals in Antioch (in ancient Syria) were tortured and beheaded, as were the statues around them. The contemporary parallels glare. The early medieval author known as Pseudo-Jerome wrote of Christian extremists: "Because they love the name martyr and because they desire human praise more than divine charity, they kill themselves." He would have found shocking familiarity in the news of the 21st century. Nixey closes her book with the description of another Athena, in the city of her name, being decapitated around A.D. 529, her defiled body used as a steppingstone into what was once a world-renowned school of philosophy. Athena was the deity of wisdom. The words "wisdom" and "historian" have a common ancestor, a proto-Indo-European word meaning to see things clearly. Nixey delivers this ballista-bolt of a book with her eyes wide open and in an attempt to bring light as well as heat to the sad story of intellectual monoculture and religious intolerance. Her sympathy, corruscatingly, compellingly, is with the Roman orator Symmachus: "We see the same stars, the sky is shared by all, the same world surrounds us. What does it matter what wisdom a person uses to seek for the truth?" https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/books/review/catherine-nixey-darkening-age.html

I read a tiny bit on Confucious yesterday. Is this accurate, and do chinese tend to subscribe to it? 5. The Family and the State Early Zhou political philosophy as represented in the Classic of Odes and the Classic of Documentscentered on moral justification for political authority based on the doctrine of the "Mandate of Heaven" (tianming 天命). This view was that the sage's virtue (de) attracted the attention of the anthropomorphized cosmic power usually translated as "Heaven" (tian天), which supported the sage's rise to political authority. These canonical texts argued that political success or failure is a function of moral quality, evidenced by actions such as proper ritual performance, on the part of the ruler. Confucius drew on these classics and adapted the classical view of moral authority in important ways, connecting it to a normative picture of society. Positing a parallel between the nature of reciprocal responsibilities of individuals in different roles in two domains of social organization, in the Analects Confucius linked filial piety in the family to loyalty in the political realm: It is rare for a person who is filially pious to his parents and older siblings to be inclined to rebel against his superiors… Filial piety to parents and elder siblings may be considered the root of a person. (1.2) This section examines Confucius's social and political philosophy, beginning with the central role of his analysis of the traditional norm of filial piety. Confucius (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

I agree. 100% It is terrifying to think of the goblins Out there deciding what events are okay and not okay for children to learn about. Hence why I reccomended Ellingsvåg to @blue eyed snake

Can anyone explain the mandate of heaven to me?

Close your eyes, take a mushroom, weed or beer If youd like. And boom, it is still there.

There is zero controversial. The correct answer is warn shower.

Yes… but no. He is the ancestor of our people. Nothing can change that. Yes, much is lost, but the fire burns forever. corny maybe, but it is from the heart. You to scandinavian? I genuinley belive we have a lot more legacy from the pagan days. Check out Sturla Ellingsvåg, please.

Could you tell me a little about the pyramid, my friend? Not a lot, just a tiny bit. Is it purley a state of mind, or is it tangible as well?

I made a post on politics in the byzantine empire on a history forum I am active on. Nobody seemed to care tho. The reason I found it so intriguing, is the obvious parallels to today. Nothing have changed, seemingly. It is based on the following article: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blue-versus-green-rocking-the-byzantine-empire-113325928/. Either you can read that first hand, or you can take a look at my shortened version of it in the spoiler below. Cant help but see parallels to every society to know to man (in the west at least, a little ignorant on the rest of the world). Bread and circus is self evident. Two opposing parties (the right and the left) arguing passionatley and hatefully, thinking they are right and the other part evil. The two party system giving the illusion of a democracy. But when push comes to show, the man dressed in the finest, royal purple calls all the shots. Also, I have read a little of Platos Republic. The segment on the noble lie gave me the creeps. I know he is an important character in many esoteric circles. Is it social engineering? Could anyone help shed some light on this?

Under edit. Odin is the only deity that truly ressonates with me. An enigma. A man known under 170 names. His "real" name meaning shamanic fury or something along those lines. God of war, god of kingship, god of magic, god of poetry, god of the hanged. King of the gods, first king of my people. Leader of the wild hunt and the beserkers. Responsible for shaping the universe. Breathing life into Ash and Elm. On a constant search for wisdom, willing to sacrifice whatever is necessary in the process. I like to believe that he did it, ultimately, for the good of his people. I know this sounds weird, and that this rant is sort of out of place. However, I found it intriguing that you mentioned him in relation to Hermes, Mercury and Toth. Hermes and Mercury are the closest links I have found, although I have struggled finding a true paralelle. Toth I know nothing about. Tell me please, does he play any role in your tradition? I have posted this a few times before, forgive me. But Nungali, do you see the same thing I see in the text, an initiation ritual? From the song of the high one: I know that I hung on a windy tree nine long nights, wounded with a spear, dedicated to Odin, myself to myself, on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run. No bread did they give me nor a drink from a horn, downwards I peered; I took up the runes, screaming I took them, then I fell back from there.[10] And after that, he learns the secrets. As it says in my signature: From a word to a word I was led to a word, From a work to a work I was led to a work. Havamal Sorry folks for derailing the thread.

I have nothing against you, just some jokes my friend

@silent thunderhow dear you 😡😡

@ChiDragon we have teased you enough by now. Now it is time for some genuine advice. If you feel people are downvoting you unfairly, you should try telling them that it is toxic and that they are wrong. I think that is the best solution

One thing that makes me sick to the stomach, is policing of language. I mean, it is literally Orwellian. 'Fact-checking bothers me a little bit. I want uncensored debate and have trust that people are capable of making up their own mind. From an article on fact checking I read today: Allright... but the thing is, the organizations mentioned here, that push for this, are literally 95% of Norwegian media. Who are they going to fact check? Themself? Each other? I kind of took it for granted that they already did, but... A much more sensible approach I think. What? Nobody is skeptical of verifiability. We love it. We are skeptical of you asking us to believe you on blind faith. A center that controls what information that reaches the people has never been an attack on freedom of expression??? Very reasonable. Only worry I have, is if "behaving maturely" is code for "behave as I want you to." If not, I am good. This caricature is from the article: One term I remember the media introduced when Russia invaded Ukraine, was "angrepskrig." Translates to attacking war. I mean... what else is a war? "peace keeping operation?"

Haha yess, and blessed are tho who giveth to the temple. The gods will reward thy manifold.

Feedback appreciated. So many interresting possibilites to explore. The mysteries, the nature of the gods, relationship with nature, values, after life... Hope it is of interest for some of you as well!