Sir Darius the Clairvoyent

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    For those who dont know what I am talking about, they are the only independent jewish state since Judah and Israel about 500bc, I think, and the modern state of Israel. They have a very curious location however, just north of the black sea.

     

    How did this come to happen?

     

    @Daniel, you know something?

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    414a] and issues from it unspoiled we must establish as ruler over our city and its guardian, and bestow rewards upon him in life, and in death the allotment of the supreme honors of burial-rites and other memorials. But the man of the other type we must reject. Such,” said I, “appears to me, Glaucon, the general notion of our selection and appointment of rulers and guardians as sketched in outline, but not drawn out in detail.” “I too,” he said, “think much the same.” “Then would it not truly [414b] be most proper to designate these as guardians in the full sense of the word, watchers against foemen without and friends within, so that the latter shall not wish and the former shall not be able to work harm, but to name those youths whom we were calling guardians just now, helpers and aids for the decrees of the rulers?” “I think so,” he replied.

    “How, then,” said I, “might we contrive1 one of those opportune falsehoods2 of which we were just now3speaking, [414c] so as by one noble lie to persuade if possible the rulers themselves, but failing that the rest of the city?” “What kind of a fiction do you mean?” said he. “Nothing unprecedented,” said I, “but a sort of Phoenician tale,4 something that has happened ere now in many parts of the world, as the poets aver and have induced men to believe, but that has not happened and perhaps would not be likely to happen in our day5 and demanding no little persuasion to make it believable.” “You act like one who shrinks from telling his thought,” he said. “You will think that I have right good reason6 for shrinking when I have told,” I said. [414d] “Say on,” said he, “and don't be afraid.” “Very well, I will. And yet I hardly know how to find the audacity or the words to speak and undertake to persuade first the rulers themselves and the soldiers and then the rest of the city, that in good sooth7 all our training and educating of them were things that they imagined and that happened to them as it were in a dream; but that in reality at that time they were down within the earth being molded and fostered themselves while [414e] their weapons and the rest of their equipment were being fashioned. And when they were quite finished the earth as being their mother8delivered them, and now as if their land were their mother and their nurse they ought to take thought for her and defend her against any attack and regard the other citizens as their brothers and children of the self-same earth.” “It is not for nothing,9” he said, “that you were so bashful about coming out with your lie.” “It was quite natural that I should be,”

     

     

     

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    This is a fun one:

     

    6.2.3 ||

    3. That Existence decided: ‘I shall be many. I shall be born.’ He then created fire. That fire also decided: ‘I shall be many. I shall be born.’ Then fire produced water. That is why whenever or wherever a person mourns or perspires, he produces water.

    https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/chandogya-upanishad-english/d/doc239262.html
     

    In norse tradition, humans are sort of the middle point between the gods and the forces of chaos, their job being to fight against chaos, If you will allow a very speculative interpertation.

     

    @Nungali what went down in zoroastrian myth?

     

    Also… and this is yet another subject I know nothing about, but in enuma elish, man is created to be… slaves, basically? Part of me feels this is social engineering on another level, but no comment.

     

    The biblical version is kind of like prometheus but in reverse, is it not?

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    Just as an thought experiment. 
     

    One late october night under the influence of a funny mushroom, my friend told me about his conviction of the excistence of God. I very much agree, but that is beyond the point. I then asked him: why did god create us.

     

    He went in to deep thought. After a while he said everyone want someone to take care of, to be responsible for. Beautifull, isnt?

     

    My suggestion was that maybe god is playing music. Creativity is… well, it is that whitch creates. And it is great fun.

     

    Then we have this point of view from Alan Watts:


     

    So, dear bums, magicians and beautifull apes, why are we here?

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    3 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:

    Can I ask what you are interested in , on a thread called Christianity? 

     

    No. I have engaged with the real topic of this thread, now I am arguing about Your increasingly rare rants:

     

    “Thus with their virtue protected they live uncorrupted by the allurements of public shows or the stimulant of feastings. Clandestine correspondence is equally unknown to men and women.”
    [Tacitus, Germania, 19

     

    “Almost alone among barbarians they are content with one wife, except a very few among them, and these not from sensuality, but because their noble birth procures for them many offers of alliance.”
    [Tacitus, Germania, 18]
     

     

     

     

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    Just now, Thrice Daily said:

    We are finally getting to the periphery. 

     

    People are throwing the baby out with the bath water I feel yes. And disrespecting where they came from in the most hypocritical and self destructive way imaginable. Fake empathy is a massive blameworthy phenomena, who knew even Empathy would become weaponised in the way it has of late. We are living in highly deceptive times... as i'm sure you know. 

    From the king of fake empathy: saying Thank you in every comment while continueing to push your unwanted doctrine on people who very clearly are not interrested, in a thread that you have hijacked

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    Wtf does abortion, condoms and womens rights have to do with christianity anyway?

     

    Wonder where rape was more common, in palestine or pagan Europe. 

    «For this point in history, however, Viking women enjoyed a high degree of social freedom. They could own property, ask for a divorce if not treated properly, and they shared responsibility for running farms and homesteads with their menfolk. They were also protected by law from a range of unwanted male attention.»

    https://www.historyextra.com/period/viking/vikings-women-home-matriarchs-traders-artisans/
     

    find me something similar in the bible, please

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    Apart from the lions of the Plantagenet(England and Normandy) coat of arms, 12th-century examples of lions used as heraldic charges include the Staufen (Hohenstaufen)and Wittelsbach (Palatinate) coats of arms, both deriving from Henry the Lion, the royal coat of arms of Scotland, attributed to William the Lion,[b] the coat of arms of Denmark, first used by Canute VI, the coat of arms of Flanders (Jülich), first used by Philip I, the coat of arms of León, an example of canting arms[c]attributed to Alfonso VII (1126), and the coat of arms of Bohemia, first granted to Vladislaus II.

    Coats of arms of the 13th century include those of the House of Sverre (coat of arms of Norway), the Ludovingians (the lion of Hesseused by Conrad of Thuringia), Luxembourg, the kingdom of Ruthenia (Volhynia), the House of Habsburg (the Habsburgs all but abandoned their original coat of arms after gaining the Duchy of Austria in the 1270s, but it remained in use in derived lineages such as the House of Kyburg), the kingdom of Bulgaria and the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia (Rubenids).

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    16 hours ago, Nungali said:

    Even Australia 'appropriated ' a lion symbol -  the classic Holden car

     

    emblem

     

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    'King of the beasts' , and all that  .... they might have used a kangaroo instead , but thought that might indicate 'clutch problems'  ;) 

     

    Dragons, eagles, ravens,  snakes  ; two levels of symbolism

     

    -  a general mythological meaning that the country or area aspires to

     

    -   as part of the myth associated with the founding of the state or country  eg  Mexico

     

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    Eagle, snake and cactus .

     

    The legend says that the Aztecs left their home to look for a place to start a new life. Their god had told them to find a lake where an eagle with a snake in its beak would stand on a nopal cactus growing from a rock. That would be the place to build their new city.

     

    Eventually they saw just that and settled there .

     

    But Lions in particular. I find it so bizarre that they are that common in northren Europe. Could you shed some light on it?

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    2 minutes ago, Apech said:

    I would like to return to the actual 'truth-claims' made by Christianity - such as the virgin birth and the resurrection - and ask a) are they believable and b ) why does Christianity depend on them or emphasise them so highly.  This is the sticking point for me.  It is as if there is a guardian at the door saying 'believe these things or cannot enter' - whereas I d not see this in any other religion (except perhaps Islam - a subject which I have feelings about which I will pass over in silence).

    They Ask you to belive on blind faith (and threaten you with hellfire) because they cant make you know. We all know it takes a man and a woman to make a child.

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    Now ill go play the piano or something so I do not say anything I will end up regretting.

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    1 minute ago, Thrice Daily said:

    You mean your point… I respect that.

     

    in England we call it “different point of view” 

     

    it’s especially a good feature for debates and discussions, as long as people stay at the table for it. 
     

    I’ll be sad to see you go, you have very thought provoking posts with lovely detail.

    Yiu know what makes me sad? Seing my people getting raped and murdered on a scale never seen before and you useing it as an excuse to push your religion.

  22. Posted · Edited by Sir Darius the Clairvoyent

    That comment annoys me more than you belive. First of all, do you think scandinavia was all Rape, murder and without virtue before your little lamb ideology pushed it self up here? Do you think everything became a utopia when it did? Do you really credit christianity with building roads? Do you think we lack conience? 
     

    the reason for the explotion of crime, Rape and murder in scandinavia is VERY simple. If you cant figure it out yourself, I can not help you. Alternativey, you can do a very quick google search.

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