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Posts posted by Sir Darius the Clairvoyent
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@Starkadr is Your name based on the mythical bard? Id love to learn more about him.
On topic: im generally not very serious. I prefer chil people.
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4 hours ago, blue eyed snake said:My eldest sister has been to the Sami when she was a young woman, in the sixties that was. I was a very small kid at the time. She was gone so long, I missed her, many months but she did not winter with them.
When she came back she had changed in an intriguing and nice way. She took that change with her through her life which is now nearing the end.
I still have a knife that was gifted to me later when i was big enough for it.
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Just listen to a podcast from DR1 (danish radio, by the state) about how the odessy fits perfectly to scandinavia and the surrounding region, but not to greece.
anylne knowledgeable about this?
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7 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:
Can you share your favourite line from this Gospel, or two if one is too difficult to pick?Verse 3
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19 hours ago, 心神 ~ said:Of course. What about laws regulating "ethical & moral" behavior? Laws are sometimes rooted in religion / philosophy. At what point does "non-violent" rule become force?
Could question. So good I am unable to answer it.
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1 hour ago, Thrice Daily said:Oh I’m sorry yes of course, I got you mixed up for a minute. Norway correct?
Just one question, do you believe in the power of Jesus in anyway, as a teacher a healer or other wise?
I'm curious as to your view on him as a individual , separate to the Jewish root and the church.
The actual guy and the messages ?
Norway yes.
on christ, I am conflicted. I do not think we know anything «on the actual guy.» Forgive my bluntness.
On the other hand, the gospel of Thomas is pure gold from stat to finish.
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16 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:You seem pretty close to the Aboriginals . It would be awesome if walkabout was a worldwide thing. At least In theory! It would be an interesting practical test…
Wouldn’t fancy my chances in colder climates though 🥶
Unless I was wearing suitable attire for the occasion.
Well, If you dont mind me going in to genetics, non-europeans are ill suited for the scandinavian climate. They get ill due to the lack of sunlight and have a lower body temprature.
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14 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:You seem pretty close to the Aboriginals . It would be awesome if walkabout was a worldwide thing. At least In theory! It would be an interesting practical test…
Wouldn’t fancy my chances in colder climates though 🥶
Unless I was wearing suitable attire for the occasion.
Me? To the aboriginal Australias? Far from it! @Nungaliis the man for that.
If you refer to the sami, my aunt is one. On our 18th birthday, she gave each of my cousins and me a self made «sami» blanket and knife. It is beautifull: it sybolises how with shelter and a tool/weapon you can survive anything.
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9 minutes ago, NaturaNaturans said:During the volcanic eruption on iceland somewhere in the 5th or 6th century, reffered to as fimbulvintr in norse myth, the sun didnt shine for three whole years. The population of scandinavia plumeted. Guess who came trough the catastrophy mostly in tact? The sami.
edit: Ødegård is a very popular last name in Norway (Like that of Arsenals captain Martin Ødegård 😁). This name has been traced to this very event. It translates to deserted farm.
Here you have (on of) the description of fimbulvintr (the great winter) If interrested:
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48 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:like the San (the bushmen from the Kalahari)
(and although i know they had beasts of burden and sacrificed them. I am thinking of the Saami too.
They did sort of domesticate the reindeer, without the reindeer their environment was unfit to live in I think. But they kept following the migration routes and lived as nomads, so they sort of followed the animals in their natural way of living instead of forcing domestication on farms or the like.)
During the volcanic eruption on iceland somewhere in the 5th or 6th century, reffered to as fimbulvintr in norse myth, the sun didnt shine for three whole years. The population of scandinavia plumeted. Guess who came trough the catastrophy mostly in tact? The sami.
edit: Ødegård is a very popular last name in Norway (Like that of Arsenals captain Martin Ødegård 😁). This name has been traced to this very event. It translates to deserted farm.
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12 hours ago, Nungali said:I know you asked BES this but I am going to jump in and hope I dont land on her toes .
First , any 'old pagan ways ' is a tricky term . let's forget that for the moment . people first started learning about this through necessity , mostly food gathering and medicines - via the 'doctrine of signatures' qualified by trial and error . That developed as 'civilization' developed . It arose in the major centers of development and in doctrines and writings of Zoroastrians, Jews, Greek philosophers and pre-Greek Egytptians (and some others ) this got synthesized in the 'Alexandrian Synthesis ' ( they where very serious about this, back then any ship that came into Alexandria would have texts seized, copied in the library and returned - many complained that they got the copies back and not their originals ).
Alexandria declined , the library burned more than once . The tradition ( now 'Hermetics' ) moved to Harran in Syria ( a VERY interesting place , look it up ) . The we had the rise of Islam , they came to Harran and found a mass of people .... to many to 'put to the sword' and besides, they didnt want to convert . If they could be accepted , problem solved ... and imagine the jizra ! (tax on being accepted as a non Moslem ). They claimed to be Sabians , showed their Hermetic texts as 'sacred Book' and claimed Hermes ( as in 'hermetic ' .... Hermes - Mercury - Thoth - Tjahuti , going backwards to the Egyptian version) as their prophet . To cement that the Islamic view flexed to agree as Mohamed does make reference to unnamed prophets before him . They where adopted into the fold and it was soon realized they held knowledge of medicine , astronomy , mathematics, etc and that was adopted. Not long after that Islam culture bloomed into a 'Golden Age ' . meanwhile the Greeks and Jews where developing their contributions .
The Islamics had some input in tying a lot of it together and wrote treatises , many about the things you mentioned above . These translated into Europe via Neo-Platonists and others like Cornelius Agrippa , (see 'Three Books of Occult Philosophy ' ) where a lot of these relationships are listed .
Now that became THE science of the time and the background behind things like the current then evolving Freemasonic movement . ( That increased again in Victorian times when many did the 'World Tour' and bought back new ideas and philosophies resulting in things like 'Egyptian Freemasonry' and others 'unregulated ' or 'spurious' forms of FM ). In Europe it was blended with the Christian outlook - which was very different to that of today , it was underpinned by neo-Platonism , the 'hermetic current' and the world view of the time .
Then came various other developments that created the scientific revolution and the world view changed , so what had been tied to the previous one ( the Neo-Platonic / hermetic current ) got thrown out with the bathwater . ( See The Origins of Modern Science by Herbert Butterfield , even if only the first few chapters , it is CRUCIAL in understanding all this , and how we- ' collective modern culture ;'western' - 'fell' from a tripartite understanding to a dualistic one - in the overall mental paradigm ) . There is a free pdf of it online .
The came the revival of magick where the 'holistic' view returned , along with a development of hermetic kabbalah . Alongside that developments in Freemasonry split off and developed certain traditions that eventually evolved into some of the occult and initiation schools of the west . Eg. one of the biggest international ones of today is Ordo Templi Orientis , whose roots come from 'The Rites of Mephas and Mizraim , 'spurious' Egyptian Freemasonry ' .
I am not sure where one would draw the 'pagan' line in all this ?
And that 'magical technology' was incorporated into the Mass ; the use of special colors for certain rites, different vestments , incenses (here the incense of the 'God' Jesus is considered tripartite; the three gifts of the three wise men (supposed Magi / Zoroastrians ) .. also 'sacraments' can be seen as religious equivalents to the different stages of initiation , especially with the basic ones , which are based on birth, life and death ( its even the same in the Aboriginal initiation traditions here and other places ) ; baptism , confirmation, last rites .
So .... " understandings names, cycles colors, paths… were they not kinda integrated into mystery schools and secret societies over the years are preserved as parts of magical rituals and rites." Yes, 'kinda' . and you will find a lot of that in Agrippa .
Things are classified as 'in a similar vibration ' thats how we get the modern idea that a particular astrological sign for a person gives their 'favorite' gem ... or the one 'best' for them . Thats why the altar of Venus might be based on a green color scheme , require a certain incense , a certain oration, etc . I had to learn a lot of that to pass examinations (in a mystery school ) .
the modern treatise on it would be
https://hermetic.com/crowley/777/index
On colour… I heard something about the green, white and orange in the persian (and indian) flag had some esoteric meaning, cant remember tho?
And do you know anything about the colours of my own as well as many other western flags, namley, red, white and blue?
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1 minute ago, Thrice Daily said:Christianity, the good the bad and the ugly sure, but still trying to answer the question posed?
What you reckon?
What is the question? How weird the dogma is?
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1 minute ago, 心神 ~ said:Also, how is force defined here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden
does this qaulify?
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28 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:4 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:No shit sherlock, so you found out that the most violent tribes were the most aggressive countering the unwanted invasion of christian soldiers and priests. What a surprise, it took em 3 centuries to "convert" my people ( i am from Frisian descent)
also, that lists substantiates my claim that it was fixed policy to convert everybody.
28 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said:And then they suggest that their faith is somehow superior, that they saved you from barbarism. Its disgusting
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Thing is… if you have something of valuesto offer, why do you have to force it upon people?
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8 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:Some say Jesus is the central point of the angels, perhaps like the still point at the centre of a wheel…) have you ever heard that @NaturaNaturans?
To be honest I dont understand you.
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14 hours ago, Nungali said:No
" The Hollow Earth is a concept proposing that the planet Earth is entirely hollow or contains a substantial interior space. Notably suggested by Edmond Halley in the late 17th century, the notion was disproven, first tentatively by Pierre Bouguer in 1740, then definitively by Charles Hutton in his Schiehallion experiment around 1774. "
and then picked up by the modern 'alternative crew' in a hodge podge of anything remotely related ;
including 'Greek underworld ' ( I am sure you can find a podcast or youtube 'proving ' that )
So it is not some sort of esoteric metaphor?
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Just now, ChiDragon said:Let's take care one thing at a time, shall we?
The wisdom of the east
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How do you feel about that?
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8 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:Ah, OK...I thought maybe but wasn´t sure. Thanks!
Yupp, that dogma has allready been pushed on way to many billions.
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Just now, liminal_luke said:Sorry NaturaNaturans! In a very abstracted theoretical way I can get behind what you are saying. But the "Christians" have low-key traumatized me with their bullying my-way-or-the-highway ways.
It was a joke my Friend
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I suggest we all just accept christ into our hearts instead, and never again pass judgement on one another.
thy kingdom come, amen 🕊️
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Just now, Nungali said:Indeed ... even 'Mother Teresa'.
If they would admit it .... I would shut up
I hope they dont, so you keep yapping
why so serious?
in Daoist Discussion
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“I would really allow myself to order the ranks of philosophers according to the rank of their laughter – right up to those who are capable of golden laughter. And assuming that the gods also practise philosophy, a fact which many conclusions have already driven me to – I don’t doubt that in the process they know how to laugh in a superhuman and new way – and at the expense of all serious things! Gods delight in making fun: even where sacred actions are concerned, it seems they cannot stop laughing.”
(Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil p. 294)
he is the greatest philosophef IMO. Not that ive read many others. He liked buddhism, but ultimateley rejected it for being Life denying instead of Life affirming.