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I see. I will do further reading in that matter. Thanks.

Can you please share more please. Something I can read or find?

Interesting. I will be reading about that. Thanks

Yes. There is Hadith that even one person can be called or resurrected as Ummah (nation/community). I will get that at the end of the post. To answer your question I have 2 sources from Quran and from Hadith First: Quran verse 16:120 Indeed, Ibrahim was a nation obedient to Allah upright, and not he was of the polytheists The word here nation is "Ummah" = nation was used to describe just one person "Abraham" because he was an example to others to follow. Second: Hadith Musnad Ahmad (Sorry I could not find an English source to this Hadith): عن نُفيل بن هشام بن سعيد بن زيد بن عمرو بن نُفيل عن أبيه، عن جده قال: كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم بمكة، هو وزيد بن حارثة، فمر بهما زيد بن عمرو بن نُفيل، فدعوه إلى سُفرٍ لهما، فقال: يا ابن أخي، إني لا آكل مما ذُبح على النُّصب، قال: فما رُؤيَ النبيّ صلى الله عليه وسلم بعد ذلك أكَلَ شيئاً مما ذُبح على النُّصب. قال: قلت: يا رسول الله، إن أبي كان كما قد رأيت وبلغك، ولو أدرككَ لآمنَ بك واتَّبعك، فاستغفِرْ له، قال: نعم، فأَستغفِرُ له، فإنه يبعث يومَ القيامة أُمَّةً واحدةً Mohammed is talking about one guy named (zaid bin amro bin nifail) who died before time of Mohammed that he will be resurrected in the day of judgment by himself alone as an Ummah. So yes the word ummah while means nation can be referred to one person too in Arabic. Up to here, this has been suffienct coverage in my opinion. There are further sources from rest of Hadith, Tafsir and Sirah to establish a hateful ideology, but I have no desire to create negative karma for myself or others. I wish peace to all beings.

You probably know that Hadith is graded by Hadith scholars according to the chain of narrators (sanad) into Sahih (well verified) or Hasan (less verified but acceptable) or Daif (weak not reliable). The story in this Hadith came from several sources (chain of narrators) not just one (Sunan Abi Dawud Book has many Hadiths some are Sahih, Hasan, weak or fake). This Hadith you referred me to has Grade Hasan (less reliable than Sahih but acceptable). Here is the link for the grade: https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4449 Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar: A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school. They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee. He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi. This same story was told by more verified and reliable chain of narrators Grade Sahih: https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4452 Jabir b. ‘Abd Allah said: The Jews brought a man and a woman of them who had committed fornication. He said: Bring me two learned men or yours. So they brought the two sons of Suriya. He adjured them and said: How do you think about the matter if these two persons bear witness to the effect that they have seen his sexual organ in her female organ (penetrated) like a collyrium stick when enclosed in its case, they will be stoned to death. He asked: What is there which prevents you from stoning them: They replied : Our rule has gone, so we disapproved of killing. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then called four witnesses. They brought four witnesses. Who testified that they had seen his sexual organ (penetrated) in her female organ like a collyrium stick when enclosed in its case. The Prophet (ﷺ) then gave orders for stoning them. ّThe second more reliable source (Sahih) has different content, as it does not have the highlighted part, but it does not change the narrative that Quran and all muslim scholars acknowledge and believe in Torah, Gospel and other books as divine revelation by Allah, however as stated by Quran verses (posted before) they had missing and corrupted elements and they have been abrogated by Quran itself (posted before) the most complete, accurate and last revelation by Allah. Moreover, Mohammed did not force Christians to convert to Islam even though Christians believed in Trinity and Jesus as son of god, However that does not mean that he approved their belief: 5:47 And let judge (the) People (of) the Injeel by what has revealed Allah in it. And whoever (does) not judge by what revealed Allah then those [they] (are) the defiantly disobedient You have already seen and criticized the Injeel (the Gospel). Yet Quran is ordering Christians to follow it! It does not mean Quran approves the current version as a whole or the Trinity as a valid belief. Again I say regarding defective scripture (corruption or lost portions) No one in the Islamic world can have a say with certainty what exactly has been lost or corrupted, simply because neither Quran nor Mohammed gave specific accounts or details. So all muslims scholars are doing is giving educated guesses. This is similar to the Jews said case of Uzair son of God. Mohammed/Quran did not give specific details so muslims scholars still puzzled by this verse regarding Uzair son of God. Let see some relevant Hadith to our discussion: 1) Theses 2 Hadiths are Grade Sahih agreed upon by both Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (sorry the link does not show the grade and I only have Arabic sources for the grade but Bhukhari in general is considered Grade Sahih) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: If ten scholars of the Jews would follow me, no Jew would be left upon the surface of the earth who would not embrace Islam. https://sunnah.com/muslim:2793 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Had only ten Jews (amongst their chiefs) believe me, all the Jews would definitely have believed me." https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3941 2) This is also a summary of what happened to Jews of Madina, narrated in the Sahih Bhukhari (again no grade shown but in general Sahih Bhukhari is considered all Sahih and most reliable after Quran): Narrated Ibn `Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet (ﷺ) violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet (ﷺ) again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of `Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina. https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4028 3) From Sunan Abi Dawud. Grade Sahih Ibn ‘Umar said “The Jews Al Nadir and Quraizah fought with the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ), so the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) expelled Banu Al Nadir and allowed the Quraizah to stay and favored them. The Quraizah thereafter fought (with the Prophet).” So he killed their men and divided their women, property and children among Muslims except some of them who associated with the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ). He gave them protection and later on they embraced Islam. The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) expelled all the Jews of Madeenah in Toto, Banu Qainuqa, they were the people of ‘Abd Allaah bin Salam, the Jews of Banu Harith and any of Jews who resided in Madeenah. https://sunnah.com/abudawud:3005 4) From Sahih Bukhari Narrated Mus`ab: I asked my father, "Was the Verse:-- 'Say: (O Muhammad) Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of their deeds?'(18.103) revealed regarding Al-Haruriyya?" He said, "No, but regarding the Jews and the Christians, for the Jews disbelieved Muhammad and the Christians disbelieved in Paradise and say that there are neither meals nor drinks therein. Al- Hururiyya are those people who break their pledge to Allah after they have confirmed that they will fulfill it, and Sa`d used to call them 'Al-Fasiqin (evildoers who forsake Allah's obedience). 5) Jami Alturmithi. Grade Sahih Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula." https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1606 6) In every Islamic prayer surat al Fateha is recited which ends with these verses 1:6 Guide us (to) the path, the straight 1:7 (The) path (of) those You have bestowed (Your) Favors on them, not (of) those who earned (Your) wrath on themselves and not (of) those who go astray. From Jami Al Turmuthi. Grade Hasan: Narrated 'Adiyy bin Hatim: that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The Jews are those who Allah is wrath with, and the Christians have strayed." https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2954 7) Mishlat elmisbah. Grade Sahih Abu Huraira reported God’s messenger as saying, "By Him in whose hand Muhammad’s soul is, anyone of this people, Jew or Christian, who hears of me and then dies without believing in my message, will be among those who go to hell.” https://sunnah.com/mishkat:10 8) Sunan an Nisai. Grade Hasan It was narrated that Safwan bin 'Assal said: "A Jew said to his companion: 'Let us go to this Prophet.' His companion said to him: 'Do not say Prophet; if he hears you, he will become big-headed.' So they came to the Messenger of Allah [SAW] and asked him about nine clear signs. He said to them: 'Do not associate anything with Allah, do not steal, do not commit adultery, do not kill any soul whom Allah has forbidden you to kill, except by right, do not speak falsely about an innocent man before a ruler, do not engage in magic, do not consume Riba (usury), do not slander chaste women, and do not flee on the day of the march (to battle). And for you Jews especially, do not break the Sabbath.' They kissed his hands and feet and said: 'We bear witness that you are a Prophet.' He said: 'What is keeping you from following me?' They said: 'Dawud prayed that there would always be a Prophet among his descendants, and we are afraid that if we follow you, the Jews will kill us.'" https://sunnah.com/nasai:4078 9) Sahih Bukhari Narrated Abu Huraira: While we were in the mosque, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came out to us and said, "Let us proceed to the Jews." So we went along with him till we reached Bait-al-Midras (a place where the Torah used to be recited and all the Jews of the town used to gather). The Prophet (ﷺ) stood up and addressed them, "O Assembly of Jews! Embrace Islam and you will be safe!" The Jews replied, "O Aba-l-Qasim! You have conveyed Allah's message to us." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "That is what I want (from you)." He repeated his first statement for the second time, and they said, "You have conveyed Allah's message, O Aba-l- Qasim." Then he said it for the third time and added, "You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you fro,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle." https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6944 10) Sunan Abi Dawud. Grade Sahih Abu Hurairah said, While we were in the mosque, the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) came out and said “Come on to the Jews. So we went out with him and came to them”. The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) stood up, called them and said “If you, the community of Jews accept Islam you will be safe”. They said “You have given the message Abu Al Qasim”. The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) said “Accept Islam you will be safe”. They said “You have given the message Abu Al Qasim”. The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) said “that I intended”. He then said the third time “Know that the land belongs to Allaah and His Apostle and I intend to deport you from this land. So, if any of you has property (he cannot take it away), he must sell it, otherwise know that the land belongs to Allaah and His Apostle (ﷺ).” https://sunnah.com/abudawud:3003 11) Jami el Tarnuthi. Grade Sahih Narrated Abu Hurairah: that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "Do not precede the Jews and the Christians with the Salam. And if one of you meets them in the path, then force them to its narrow portion." https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2700 12) Sahih Bukhari Narrated Anas: A young Jewish boy used to serve the Prophet (ﷺ) and he became sick. So the Prophet (ﷺ) went to visit him. He sat near his head and asked him to embrace Islam. The boy looked at his father, who was sitting there; the latter told him to obey Abul-Qasim and the boy embraced Islam. The Prophet (ﷺ) came out saying: "Praises be to Allah Who saved the boy from the Hell-fire." https://sunnah.com/bukhari:1356 There are many Hadiths that are consistent with the narrative of embracing Islam and following Mohammed to be saved. You have the links Daniel so you can find many more from the websites. I want to add one more Hadith that is creating a lot of hate which will be difficult to change From Both Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim and have been narrated in many Hadith sources Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) said, "The Last Hour will not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews, until a Jew will hide himself behind a stone or a tree, and the stone or the tree will say: 'O Muslim, there is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him,' but Al-Gharqad tree will not say so, for it is the tree of the Jews." https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:1820

Yes. The core message is oneness of Allah, believe his his massagers. and the last day. BUT This core message is wrapped by much further updated and complete and last instructions/revelation (Sharia) which overrides or abrogates all previous Sharias and must be followed. I will get Hadiths to support that at the end of the post. Yes. I will reply to that hadith too at the end of the post. But regarding defective scripture (corruption or lost portions) No one in the Islamic world can have a say with certainty what exactly has been lost or corrupted, simply because neither Quran nor Mohammed gave specific accounts or details. So all muslims scholars are doing is giving educated guesses. Yes. There is Hadith that even one person can be called or resurrected as Ummah (nation/community). I will get that at the end of the post. I'm sure you know this already, but, the Torah doesn't mention Jesus. However. Something that many don't know is... the word "messiah" in the Torah doesn't actually mean what many assume that it means. In the Torah, it means one which is annointed as a savior. There are actually many messiahs according to judaism. There is a messiah in each and every generation. Well. Remember I am ex-muslim and do not approve how Quran views other religions so I am playing the devils advocate here. But from Quran/Islamic perspective the real identity and story of Jesus (Essa) is told by Quran and he must be acknowledged exactly how the Quran or Allah says because Allah is All knowing while both Torah and Gospel have been partially corrupted. No no no, you have confused two different characters. I have mentioned him in one of my posts under the name Yahya as well. The Book of John is the book of Yahya. Not John the disciple of Jesus but John the Baptist (Yahya) he is cousin of Jesus and son of prophet Zacharia (not Jewish prophet Zacharia but a later figure). Both Yahya (John the baptist) and Zacharia his father are prophets however John is also a messenger and he had his own book and he was sent to Sabian. This is a verse that concerns him: 19:7 "O Zakariya! Indeed, We [We] give you glad tidings of a boy his name (will be) Yahya, not We (have) assigned [for] it from before (this) name." 19:12 "O Yahya! Hold the Scripture with strength." And We gave him [the] wisdom (when he was) a child 2:62 Indeed, those who believed and those who became Jews and the Christians and the Sabians - who believed in Allah and the Day [the] Last and did righteous deeds, so for them (is) their reward with their Lord and no fear on them and not they will grieve. I have read the rest of your posts Daniel. I really do not know what to say. My opinion does not matter here. I can only tell you some of what I know. There is a scholar in Al Azhar University in Egypt, his name is Dr. Tariq Nasr. He is reformer and closer in his interpretation of Quran to the new Islamic sect called "Quraini". This Qurani sect rejects Hadith and base their belief on their own interpretations of Quran alone and they have different interpretations than Sunni and Shia schools. They are still a minority group but may be they will grow further and maybe there is some hope for peace and tolerance between these two religions. In my next post, I will start covering some Hadith and other replies.

Hi Daniel and all, Apologies for the delayed response, I was very busy lately and still busy but I can take break to give some more replies. Before I start with Hadith and reply to your posts. There is one more Arabic perspective issue I can share before moving on. The the following was my reply, I mentioned it is much clearer in Arabic context without giving further explanation because it will be too overwhelming. But I think it would be more fair if I did add a piece of information about Arabic grammar In English context the word “you/your” can refer to singular and pleural alike but in Arabic context the word you/your comes in singular, dual, and pleural forms Your right hand (in singular/one person) is yamenok (in dual/two persons) is yamenokoma (in pleural/three and more) is yamenokom Likewise, The verse 29:46 the “you” is pleural In verse 29:48 the “you” is singular directed to Mohammed. Allah is talking to Mohammed. The verses shift from pleural to singular. I hope that any confusion is gone now. Is this a problem of translators or language limitations? not sure what to call it.

I checked all the previous posts. I did not see any new verses to be discussed. Therefore, I will add few clarifying verses to remove any further doubts. 9:97 The bedouins (are) stronger (in) disbelief and hypocrisy, and more likely that not they know (the) limits (of) what (has) revealed Allah to His Messenger. And Allah (is) All-Knower, All-Wise. 9:98 And among the bedouins (is he) who takes what he spends (as) a loss, and he awaits for you the turns (of misfortune). Upon them (will be) the turn (of) the evil. And Allah (is) All-Hearer, All-Knower 9:99 But among the bedouins (is he) who, believes in Allah and the Day the Last, and takes what he spends (as) means of nearness with Allah and blessings (of) the Messenger. Behold! Indeed, it (is) a means of nearness for them. will admit them Allah to His Mercy. Indeed, Allah (is) Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Bedouins in Arabic "A'arab" اعراب They are nomads Arabs as oppose to city-dwellers Arabs such as people of Madina or Mecaa. Quran describes groups of Bedouins. The first and second verses described Bedouins groups as disbelievers. But the last group in verse 9:99, The Bedouins are described as believers and will receive Allah mercy. Are they not muslims? Of course they are muslims but converts from the Bedouins, but Quran is describing their origin Bedouins. One example being a companion of Mohammed called Abu thar Al ghafari ابو ذر الغفاري Just like that, Quran describes the Jewish and Christians converts to Islam as being believers from the people of the book referring to their origins. 4:145 Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His Messengers and they wish that they differentiate between Allah and His Messengers and they say, "We believe in some and we disbelieve in others." And they wish that they take between that a way. 4: 146 Those - they (are) the disbelievers truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a punishment humiliating. Another verses emphasizes believing in ALL Messengers (including Jesus the Messiah) Not some and some. The position of Mecca (Ka'aba) in relation to Abraham (Ibrahim) 2:127 And when (was) raising Ibrahim the foundations of the House and Ismail, (saying), "Our Lord! Accept from us. Indeed You! [You] (are) the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing. 22:29 And when We assigned to Ibrahim (the) site (of) the House, "That (do) not associate with Me anything and purify My House for those who circumambulate and those who stand and those who bow, (and) those who prostrate. 22: 27 And proclaim to [the] mankind [of] the Pilgrimage; they will come to you (on) foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every mountain highway distant 3:96 Indeed, (the) First House set up for the mankind (is) the one which (is) at Bakkah, blessed and a guidance for the worlds. So Ibrahim himself build the Ka'ba (house of Mecca) in his own hand before any other temple and the first one for humankind. In Summary We have Jewish and Christians believers awaiting the coming of Mohammed as reveled to them in the Original Torah and Gospel according to Quran. (believers) We have Jewish and Christians believers became converts at the time of Mohammed (believers) and who did not convert (disbelievers). Over the 23 years of Quran revelation. There were many Jewish interactions with Mohammed cited in the Quran including waging wars and expelling them from their lands. Eventually the last revelation pertaining to Christians and Jews was Surah al Tawabah which is the only Surah in Quran which did not start with "In the name of Allah most compassionate and merciful". 9:29 Fight those who (do) not believe in Allah and not in the Day the Last, and not they make unlawful what has made unlawful Allah and His Messenger, and not they acknowledge (the) religion (of) the truth, from those who were given the Scripture, until they pay the reparation (from) willingly, while they (are) subdued. Last Daniel, be aware that if you confront muslims in the future, with only few verses they might use this verse against you and call you a cherry picker just like Quran described some Jews 2:58 Then you (are) those (who) kill yourselves and evict a party of you from their homes, you support one another against them in sin and [the] transgression. And if they come to you (as) captives, you ransom them, while it (was) forbidden to you their eviction. So do you believe in part (of) the Book and disbelieve in part? Then what (should be the) recompense (for the one) who does that among you, except disgrace in the life (of) the world; and (on the) Day of [the] Resurrection they will be sent back to (the) most severe punishment? And not (is) Allah unaware of what you do. From my side Quran was covered to a sufficient level. I do not think that adding any more verses will have add any further value to the discussion. If you have any questions/comments Daniel or anyone else please post them. However I will only reply after 2 weeks and I will discuss both your questions and start Hadith.

Thank you so much NaturaNaturans. I really appreciate it. I have 3 scientific papers I must publish while trying to make these replies. It is a bit tiring. I will call the day and look at the rest of his posts later. We may go to the Hadith later.

Again Daniel sorry, this same exact answer from my previous posts Jews disbelieved and did not follow Mohammed instead they followed their Rabbis and defective scriptures as stated in many many verses before. Therefore they are either disbelievers or worse polytheists. In rejecting Mohammed, the Quran resembles them to the wrong dowers and disbelievers and killers of the prophets at the time of Jesus and all the way to the time of Moses. That is the "context you are missing", That is why it is important to read all the verses not just some and definitely not only the one that pertain to believers (moderate) who did not reject prophets and believed in all revelations. To make it overly simple if you follow Mohammed all the good stuff will be yours. If you dont then pay Jizya humbly and will be punished in the hereafter (after death). This Sunni and Shia beliefs go ask all the prominent Islamic scholars since 1400 years till today.

Wrong assumption Daniel about Anti-Jewish hatred. I will say this again Anti-Jewish hatred stems from the basis that Jews disbelieved and did not follow Mohammed instead they followed their Rabbis and defective scriptures as stated in many many verses before. Therefore they are either disbelievers and worse polytheists. In rejecting Mohammed, the Quran resembles them to the wrong dowers and disbelievers and killers of the prophets at the time of Jesus and all the way to the time of Moses. That is the "context you are missing", That is why it is important to read all the verses not just some and definitely not only the one that pertain to believers (moderate) who did not reject prophets and believed in all revelations.

I am sorry Daniel, I am forced to say you put many sentences with personal interpretations from misunderstanding already covered in earlier post. NOTE to the readers this verse "Cousins, listen, here is a book which is revealing everything that has been revealed to you already." is NOT a Quran verse, it is just Daniels own words according to what he understood. So do not be confused. Verses 29:46-47 have been already explained. Verse 29:48 And not (did) you recite from before it, any Book, and not (did) you write it with your right hand, in that case surely (would) have doubted the falsifiers. You said this is a Jewish scribal customs BUT This is completely out of context Daniel, the verse is directed to Mohammed as he did not write or read, has he been doing that then people would suspect (doubted) that he has knew the scriptures by learning. It is much clearer in Arabic context. Verse 29:49 Nay, it (is) Verses clear in (the) breasts (of) those who are given the knowledge. And not reject Our Verses except the wrongdoers. Again Breasts is wrong it is Chests in reference to the HEARTS. Again it refers to the believers of Mohammed not the one who rejected his revelation as explained in many previous verses in my posts. Not only Quran mentions argument but also Jews and Christians who rejected Mohammed revelations and did not convert are allowed to live under Islam as long as they pay Jizya and they are fully humbled. This does not exclude that they are disbelievers and polytheists and to be punished according to many verses already posted describing them. 9:29 Fight those who (do) not believe in Allah and not in the Day the Last, and not they make unlawful what has made unlawful Allah and His Messenger, and not they acknowledge (the) religion (of) the truth, from those who were given the Scripture, until they pay the reparation (from) willingly, while they (are) subdued.

These general verses pertaining to all people not jews only that Allah created people to test them. Then you mentioned (38:3) story of Pharaoh and Egyptians. Before Abraham there was Noah and other prophets to other people. Okey.... ?!

Yes, Indeed no dispute that Allah is describing his older book (Torah) as enlightenment to mankind and guidance and mercy. Yes may remember or or recollect or reflect on it or contemplate on it. But 1. the same description was given to the Gospel of Jesus as I mentioned in my post 5:46 And We sent on their footsteps Isa, son (of) Maryam, confirming what (was) between his hands of the Taurat, and We gave him the Injeel, in it (was) Guidance and light and confirming what (was) between his hands of the Taurat and a Guidance and an admonition for the God conscious. 2. Both were corrupt and lost verses 5:13-14. 3. Quran has supreme authority, complete and last revelation 5:48-49. 4. There is No timeless revelation mentioned in this verse nor the other verses you gave references too: 12:38 And I follow (the) religion (of) my forefathers, Ibrahim, and Ishaq and Yaqub. Not was for us that we associate with Allah any thing. That (is) from (the) Grace (of) Allah upon us, and upon the mankind but most (of) the men (are) not grateful. 22:25 Indeed, those who disbelieved and hinder from (the) way (of) Allah and Al-Masjid Al-Haraam, which We made it for the mankind, equal, (are) the resident therein and the visitor; and whoever intends therein of deviation (or) wrongdoing, We will make him taste of a punishment painful. Also the Word NAS just means people. If you are not convinced here is the same word but adding ALL before it: 34:28 And not We have sent you except to all mankind (as) a giver of glad tidings and (as) a warner. But most [the] people (do) not know. All People/mankind I think this much clearer now.

In these verses Quran is telling the story of Moses and his faithful followers in ancient time and how they were saved from Firaun or Pharaoh. There is no dispute in Quran or among Muslims about Moses or his faithful followers or miracles. Then you are saying Jewish scripture is harsher. These verses does not seems relevant to harshness, but to make a fair comparison of harshness we can make a table of Quran verses such as: All the curses All killing of prophets Reducing to Apes and Pigs Number of times Wrath of Allah been upon Jews I cover the Quran and you cover the Jewish scriptures and we assess them in quantitative way and qualitative way. Then we can decide which one is more harsh? PLEASE do not take what I said as condescending or something else, this is academic I am serious it would be very interesting. Maybe we need to decide if we want to include other punishment not relevant to Jews such as this: 5:33 Only (the) recompense (for) those who wage war (against) Allah and His Messenger and strive in the earth spreading corruption (is) that they be killed or they be crucified or be cut off their hands and their feet of opposite sides or they be exiled from the land. That (is) for them disgrace in the world and for them in the Hereafter (is) a punishment great.