Forestgreen

The goal of spiritual practice is to experience reality. That sort of pop up in buddhism, daoist practice, and hindu traditions. If that frightens you, there are other practices available. If you doesn't understand it, there are teachers and texts exploring the subject.

Thanks for the link, will read it. Looked awfully dissociative at first glance, but I am sure it will be worth the read. The first rule when in a hole is "watch out for spiders".

No, my sweet summer child. I answered that your attempt to steer the answer into a simple yes/no dichotomy doesn't work in real life.

If life was so easy, that this could be reduced to this polarity. I'm married with children, I work to provide for my family and I invest time in my family. Under those circumstances, I do the best of the situation. Here, I am in line with what Shadow_self wrote about protecting the essence. Funnily, I can still soak my dharmakaya in the nine reversed elixir, like a wick is soaked in oil. If I didn't have those obligations (but I do), I would change things in my life. I would ditch this phone ( no more TDB), I would change my diet, and I would no longer have sex. I would see to as many factors as possible that affects the seven refined and the nine reversed aspects of the elixir. Sex, ejaculation, is one of them.

I must admit I missed where someone wrote this. Didn't shadowdude just put it in a wider context? ( Protecting jing is more than no ejaculation?) Just no ejaculation, isn't that the rethoric of the piggybank club?

Please tell me you didn't deport @Shadow_self to my 'hood. The stench of cigars and whisky in the evening is unbearable, and the pink flamingoe neon signs in the front yard will crash the real estate market.

@dwai seems like the reiki thread got grafted onto this one. With regards T

Beware, he might relocate you to the suburbs with me and ChiDragon. Neighbourhood barbecue, aprons with "kiss the cook", the whole nine yards.

@ChiDragon we are now ignore-neighbours! I promise that I will have no loud garden parties late at night!

Oh, that is a statement. A question would have ended with this little squibble >? Since it is about the noble art of trying to produce the elixir, I will refrain from clarification.

From unmanifest to manifest, shakti is split up in components ( that's describedin one of the yoga upanishads). One possible process we are bickering about reverse ( @ChiDragon ) that process. It kind of involves the red "substance".

Because people read books? Because people seek out teachers?

I believe that this show your level of understanding of the subject. You most likely think qigong =neidan, and that it is all about breathing.

Neidan, where a text seldom means what it says. One of many reasons why neidanshu is a mess, and why few process to xianshu.

Supposedly, jing to qi to shen is going with the flow. Neidan is about reversal and inversion, going against the flow.

The usual ones" Buyer beware?

So, protecting the semen and multipying qi is enough to complete the dharma body?

Or, doesn't care enough of the chinese terminology to write neidanshu or any similar linguistic possibility. Hopefully, everyone in the area understand the difference between having a result and trying to produce that result.

Not in my world, but if you say so.

How does the muscles differ between a weight lifter and a taiji practitioner? A weight lifter can certainly hold a weight in place or send it away. Both are likely to have good blood circulation in the muscles, and functional mitochondria. From that, the main difference between them should be somewhere else in the system.

Does Rudi clearly explain neidan on this forum? Where?

Neidan is a complete mess.

"Introverted but willing to discuss but not disclose neidan"

This sentence would fit into daoist tradition as well.

@Taoist Texts there os a matchning tee-shirt. 🥰