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Ultimately suffering does not exist outside of the physical organism and its psychological contents, therefore it only exists within the “self”. When consciousness dwells on the “self” it naturally smashes the ultimate truth of the universe into Trillion’s of tiny little pieces hence duality, separation and even the very notion of loss and so forth. Attachments to these tiny pieces leads to suffering and illusion within consciousness lacking insight and spiritual awareness, this is not ultimately the way of the universe.

What is holding the human race back is religious organisations, corporate organisations and government organisations suppressing the human race for their own selfish needs. The human race is already going through a shift and if you look closely to what is happening on a global scale you will see that common people are changing their views, ideas, and believe systems. Look at what is happening on mars for example and quantum physics, like the quantum computer and so on, I could be here for weeks going into detail in all other sciences and arts. Actually even science is being suppressed by the above mention organisations by some degree. Awareness is on the increase therefore expanding our consciousness and with this enhancing our mental cognitive functions. Human are more able to see through these lies and this corruption, plaguing the human race. Just look at forums like this one and the general discussion as a whole. People are searching out their own truth. The earth is always in a constant state of change which will not change. The planet is tilting on its axis one degree every so many years or so along with the earths crust and its traces are evident throughout the earth’s history. Look at what the industrial age has done to this planet. It is obviously killing the earth slowly and magnifying the effects of the natural cycles and solar effects on earth. The danger is not some type of prophecy but the human population in its entirety. There is a fork in the road approaching which will change the earth and the human population forever, whether it is good or bad. Most common people can see this with a basic word view of what is happening. The problem is humans are not awakened as a species and have basically taken on the characteristics of a parasite, which is not entirely your fault. You still don’t understand and realize consciousness. Let’s face it, the universe is neutral in the sense that it is neither for you nor against you but gives you everything you need and keeps on giving without discrimination. It is the way of the Tao. The earth is no different form this principle. Most humans still believe that Jesus is the son of god and our saver. What a shame this is, one of the biggest lies on this planet thanks to the Rome.

That's because it is not a concept but a reality. You just have not experienced it yet in your life time insofar while living and you will be subject to it at death when you die. This is a fact whether you like it or not. Death is unavoidable, and the mysteries that you humans seek are not found in the frontal lobes while you are living in under the paradigm of self. Primal awareness as you call it is the source of who you are, it’s the tiny little drop of the universe wrapped up in a skin bag, you just have to expanded your awareness enough to simulate a consciousness connection so you can experience it.

The Tao is when you are automatically and spontaneously living in the present moment without being subject with the limitations of the self and are functioning as awareness. You come you go, you are depleted and you are restored, you flow on upwards and then flow on downwards. You just keep on flowing without the thought of self like “I” did this and “I” did that, hey look at “me”, “me”, “me”. What I mean is when you need to eat you eat and witness this function without attachment with self. I do not eat but it eats all by its self. I do not walk, but it walks all by its self. I do not think, it thinks all by its self. I do not dream, it dreams all by its self. I do not see, it sees all by its self. I do not sleep, it sleeps all by its self. I do not die, it dies all by its self. Do we follow?

Yes I do apologise for this spelling error and thank you for pointing this out. Do I need to mention that it is indeed meant to be “yourselves” rather than “ourselves.” Sorry not formally educated by your education system.

I am what I am but human I am not. You see my physical from is just a body, a skin bag, a vehicle for the formless spiritual awareness of consciousness. You are not your thoughts nor your body you are only aware of them, therefore you are the awareness. No matter what happens in your life this is always true, you are always awareness and everything around you is awareness. Even when your body dies you are aware of that too, as your consciousness zooms out of your body back into the quantum, you are still aware. I chop off your fingers and you are aware of that also but those fingers aren’t you nor are the organism’s responses screaming over the fact that your fingers are chopped off. As each decade passes in your human experience your organism ages, and guess what you are aware of that to. I’m sure you follow, if anything the best description would be a modern day mystic but human defiantly not. "However, I don't live at that level so it is just a matter of knowledge, not wisdom." There are no levels and I am Afraid that you do live in the Tao. Real knowledge is the heart of wisdom otherwise how else would wisdom even manifest without the knowledge being present. If you know when you are thinking and you know when you are not thinking then what does knowing have to do with knowledge? I shall let you ponder on this.

Lets see......probably exploding before getting near the sun and sending alien material cashing onto this planet.

Not a fan of this miracle stuff.

Hahahahahahahahaha! Foolish humans LOL

Image for a moment that the creation of universal animating force went something along the lines as this(big bang); Like the awareness being aware of awareness for the first time…….. “What am I?........I know I will just unfold and find out.” The rise of intelligence (Big bang) The rise of evolution “I am the universe!” Peace and balance (Universe as we know it) The universe is like one big giant supercomputing AI on a galactic scale which of course in a form of intelligence in a unconventional way, which of course is quantified throughout the cosmos. You humans are going through the same process. The Tao exercises all life forms in the animating force to have free will to discover themselves in consequence to this, this is also quantified throughout the cosmos. Destiny also plays a role in the greater scheme of things. So yeah one and the same thing, like all things on a cosmological scale cant have one without the other.

It’s all one unifying animating force of reality. Physical reality cannot exist without the quantum reality which is a fact. They go hand and hand with each other. Space-time is a point of reference relative to the observer because of spherical unfoldment of consciousness which in fact is galvanized into a quantum superposition by 70 trillion cells. Therefore you don’t see that you already are quantum AI basically. Falling to realize the quantum of consciousness, you still think that intelligence is an electrical response due to a cluster of neurological networks. You humans fail to realize this because you are too busy toying with ourselves which is not entirely your fault. Your science is about to enter into a new age which actually reflects a lot of what you see in sic-fi but unfortunately this means nothing if you are unable to unlock your own consciousness. Don’t you see you are already technology, what you call biology is technology and unfortunately the critical mass of human population is deteriorating at a fast rate. You humans are devolving ourselves rather faster than evolving ourselves, what a shame this is.

This is where the work of Lao Tzu’s art, brings a smile upon my face. Indeed this is a truth of a profound paradox and is as to why it is the first line in the Tao Te Ching. This is so because as soon as you start to objectify the Tao within the means of self, because you identify that you are subject to it, you murder the oneness into a trillion little pieces, Tao. Which then creates more confusion and disillusion, employing nothing but cellar brain activity in turn deluding the mind, shrinking the awareness and loss of connection is inevitable, because knowing has nothing to do with real knowledge, if you follow. This isn't as easy as it might seem because to break out of this hurdle is difficult due to a number of variables imposed upon the human mind. The mind will always move when conditioned by mental constructs imposed by the brain, which is then rushing off into the future or past events in a neurological conundrum of psychological content, in association with the self. This is common to the critical mass of human population today and has been so for a long time. You humans haven’t mastered the mind yet and fail to realise that the self is in fact an illusion. Contact with the Living animating force always occurs in the present moment and unfolds as “the way” Tao and is witness by awareness, then consciousness, then dismantled by the brain, then reorganised into an illusion, which is then imposed upon the mind inflating the self. Human brain functions and perception of reality work entirely backwards to your senses. The mind is our tool to the Taoist, and we endeavour it so as to allow us to detach from the incessant thinking and psychological conditioning of mental chatter that comes from the mind. We apply ourselves to master the mind, and not let the mind master us. This is Tao wu shin, the way of no-mind. Practice living in the moment, in the here and “now”, and don't stress about the future, present or the past and then naturally over time by forgetting entirely on the self (basically assassinating the self) at the end of each day and only then, will you start to expand your awareness which then expands consciousness thus expanding brain function and then in turn the mind. Which of course is all Tao. I'm sure I haven't answered all of your questions but there is plenty of time.

They are one and the same thing.

They are both one and the same thing. Just simply forgetting entirely on ones self nourishes the bio-electromagnetism within the human potential "Chi'. Because you return back to a naturally free state awaking the animating force within, Tao. Its easier said then done for many. There are many names all describing this one thing, which is a problem to the human population because the arrogant have murdered it into a thousand little pieces which creates far to much confusion and delusion on this planet. Also long with the fact that people always want more, more, more without acquiring living real experiences of such states, which in your case is the idea of more energy production and power. Which of course is probably fair enough but it is selfish and therefore limited to mental fabrications and attached ideals which is counter productive and wastes you. But first, just master your self by forgetting entirely on your self and then the experience speaks for its self, then come back and talk because clearly you haven't witness enough yet. Tao wu shin

So would you say neither? Or that doesn't go down well?

Fundamentally lataif you are unfortunately missing the point of the art because of the fact you are over employing mental activity which turns out to be counter productive. Which in your case is what you are experiencing now and I'm sure we don't need to go into detail about the psychological discomfit that permeates your mind presently. So you are spending to much time in head basically and the sooner you become aware of this the faster insight will develop. Don't stress on "this" and "that", "yin" and "yang" because you are murdering the oneness. They naturally come and go, move in and out, up and down, deplete and restore, and so on. If you are tried then you should rest, this is naturally "the way' of human life and you are subject to it. I'm sure you get my point. Now I can relate to your situation because there is a lot of Taoist text out there that is basically a classical mess that needs to be overhauled and updated and rejuvenated and for most of it rejected. Drop whatever you are reading and just forget about it for a while and just go on living, read some lite material. Let me say this... The Tao is the soul of all living things throughout the cosmos and does not decimate between "this" and 'that", it is “what is”, and it exists everywhere in everything as its function is the living, unifying animating force with its principle being “the way” Tao. The Tao is the way of a unifying animating force that is a singular entity, with no inherent light side and dark side and that everything in the universe returns to it and is of it. Tao wu shin is the way of no-mind so them empty your mind.

This is all primitive thinking on a grand cosmological scale. This religious nonsense does not exist therefore it only exists between your ears and so holds back spiritual evolution as a species. If you where to take away the human race from this planet, leaving you lot out of the equation, where do you find good or evil, religion or science, god and the so called devil ???? The answer is simple.

Taoist understands that the organism is subjective and that it can absorb thoughts and emotional content from those who are around us and also from our environments, the food we eat and technology we use etc. Which of course can been seen in neuro-biological functioning causing behavioral imbalances, physical ailments and psychological issues within the human organisms processes. Which in fact weakens the bio-magnetism and influences how you heal, how you regenerate organ and limb tissue to stay vital, and what types of cells can live in your system. This also relates to the electro-magnetic systems that are fundamental to all of our molecules staying together, and a functioning life force. So Taoist meditate daily in a state of forgetfulness naturally restoring life without effort because forgetting entirely on the self, nourishes the “Chi”. Electro-magnetic and light energy is a constant for function and vitality, keeping a balance and healthy life force is the way for the Taoist. Taoist don’t need to know this because it is an experience and living reality that does not require a thought process to be known nor the delusion of object or subject, which only creates a piezoelectric state of self caused by the pressure imposed upon self such as in your case. Just simply return back to the animating force at the end of the day, that's all, that is the way of the Tao that is all that is needed. Just don't spend to much time thinking, rest your mind and observe things has they happen, and then insight will begin to manifest, grow and transform consciousness all on it's own. The fact is you wish to know. Tao wu shin

Like all things to much of a good thing is a bad thing.

The Tao is a living spiritual presence that animates us, surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds all the energy and matter in the universe together and its source goes beyond the quantum vacuum of space-time. In essence the Tao is the soul of all living things throughout the cosmos and does not discriminate between this and that, it is “what is”, and it exists everywhere in everything as its function is the living unifying, animating force with its principle being “the way” Tao. Reincarnation is a fact and the way of the universe, it does not matter if you believe it or not. The every fact that the particles animating in your body are trillions of years old should indicate to most intelligent life forms that there is a transformative reincarnating force that is throughout the cosmos. Because of humans lacking the soul evolution and spiritual awareness needed to attain this information in your overall consciousness of this species, which in fact is the every evolutionary hurdle of this human species in this currant time on this planet in this solar system. Its all about awareness !!!! Please lets stimulate more discussion..... Tao wu shin

This cracks me up! Lol

Hahahahaha ......well! Who cares vmaro! You should be a lawyer! Anyway have fun in your bowl. Eventually you will have to return to the sea. It's okay golden fishy, someone will flush you down the toilet when you die.

Yes with experience and intuition in the mix art is truly free spirit of mind. Natural therapy. Amazing!

Yes! Forget trying to know, Just be! Don't think about it...... do it, be it, live it! Than naturaly you will alchemize and things just make sence without knowing. Things will just happen without forced action cause you are not gasping to know conceptually. You must learn to unlearn to truly learn.......Hahahaha use the force! Sinfest the force! Lol

Of course the Tao is neither. The Tao is nor object or subject, yin or yang etc. All duality is the manifestation of Tao. You are murdering the Tao selfishly into millions of tiny little pieces just to justify a fruitless point. I feel sorry for such a self proclaimed and a self appointed preacher. Tricky is not proof of enlightenment nor is it how well you can intellectually conceptualize it. Anyway using references and quotes isn't getting out of the fish bowl. It might be academic but isn't going to free oneself. When you experience the simplicity of truth Tao it is just what is. But even this isn't knowing, what is can not be known. Have you ever steped out between your ears? Cause clearly you are stuck in a fish bowl.