GuiKang

IMO, charging a course is still acceptable in the modern context as it consumes the teacher's time. However, if the course is not as advertised then its different story. Paying for 5 yrs and nothing has ever happened = SCAM as many like this around. or have only little benefits that not correspond to what the course meant to be. (i.e. NEIDAN) You can see the conversation between OPENDAO and shadowself in relation to this particular NEIDAN course. Thats why we need a forum like this that sharing some point of view especially from someone that has been in a course.

yes. but do not label it as "Neidan" course. If it's not then its not. the message is : do not scam people. surely it will help people with that kind of training to certain degree. Like I mentioned above, JAJ did not label it as Neidan but daoist mysticism which not mislead people.

well said brother. Especially true for Damo and Nathan, they teach neidan while they have not reach dixian or anything close to that. They will never even reach renxian by doing those post natal work. what a fraud ! I feel sorry for some folks that can fall for their marketing gimmicks and yet still thinking they are learning Neidan. Yes, you can learn some meditations etc but it's definitely not Neidan course or perhaps should never called it Neidan in the first place. However, for JAJ - He used to teach Daoist Mysticism and now been passed down to some of his senior students and the class is to becoming daoist priest in their lineage. and This is not a Neidan class and mostly the method only post natal work.