tianzhang
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Hi so a quick background on me, I have been practicing Baguazhang and Xingyiquan for 1.5 years about now. About 1 year in I started focusing on Zhan Zhuang since I noticed I was lacking the power my teacher had, because he only focused on mostly forms and applications. I started out doing 30 minutes of standing in 8 different postures via my Yiquan teacher and then eventually progressed to 1 hour in 1 posture which then progressed to 2 hours in the standing posture. I, then started experiencing Zi Fa Gong the problem is since then it's been an ongoing issue and seems to be evolving too different states it helps my kung fu and does help me become healthier. However I feel like there's a road block in my body, another bit of background information about me is that I have pelvic floor syndrome a disease where my pelvic floor accidentally locked itself up and won't release. Whenever I stand now and even outside of standing, I can initiate the spontaneous movement by opening something in the back of my nostrils ( it feels like the holes that open up inside your mouth to allow air to come in. My spine would physically move and I would feel a wave traveling down my spine and into my feet. This wave if allowed to travel would loosen my body and muscles, I also noticed if I did anything wrong in my martial arts form or circle walking practice I noticed it would create more severe blockages than it would possibly in a regular person. I would have to fix it via zhan zhuang. I also noticed that my shoulders are one of the area this wave is trying to release as it's chronically tight due to me having crowded teeth and my tongue being unable to relax fully to support my head. My questions are : A.) Does anyone have any idea of what's going on inside my body? Is the Qi trapped due to my structural annomalies? B.) Is this due to my pelvic floor syndrome or my jaw structure? C.) If it's due to my jaw structure in some way would I need to fix this via surgery to continue? Thank you. PS : I have also went to see a Chinese Medical Doctor who specialized in Qi healing and he said that there was a nerve block in my pelvic area which is likely causing the spontaneous movements but his advice to focus on the dantian while standing just worsened the issue.
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Hmmh, thanks! Do you practice from He Jing Han's line of Baguaquan?
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Hmmh? It didn't, it's still an on-going process. If you're asking how I stop the movements then I have to just shake it off and stop, it also seems to now start outside of qigong if I breath through my nostrils the breath physically travel from my nose and wave down my spine causing it to wave then to the bottom of my feet.
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I want to clarify I tried stopping it, but I cannot stop it at all. It kept going by its own will.
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Yes, I stood in a static posture without attempting to move or do any visualization. I did this first for 1 hour and then to two hours and then my body started to move by itself without me attempting to stop it. What I will note is that it didn't seem to make me tired and actually improved my kung fu and fajing skill in alot of ways.
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Ohhh okay, yes I apologize then. What I suffer from is spontaneous movements during zhan zhuang not a specific set of qigong. If that helps gives you any further insight, then I'd love to hear them either way thank you for your time.
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I thought Zi Fa Gong was spontaneous qigong a process that can be willfully triggered or triggered through other practices right , like standing?
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I apologize perhaps I worded it incorrectly, I am still confused on the whole thing. I am wondering if my Zi Fa Gong is an indicator of a deeper set of problems, that's what I needed help with. Because while it seems to help me improve my health and kung fu skills, it's also seemingly increasing my body's susceptibility to blockages.
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Actually I am doing a Yin Style Baguazhang that doesn't include the eight mother palms and only involves a forward piercing palm along the line of the circle ( so not much twisting) The Zi Fa Gong came by itself when I reached two hours of zhan zhuang, I did not do any special practices to trigger it if that's what you're asking. It seems to calm down if I let my breath roll down through my spine into my feet, but if my breath is off or I tense up then I start to bounce off. I also notice if I focus on the dantian then pressure would build up ( bad pressure from my POV) and I would jump back and fall over usually with some form of screaming to relieve the pressure.
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Do you have any idea, what the issue is? Is it QI getting stuck in one place? Everything is find with zhan zhuang and zi fa gong but not Circle walking?
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No because even before when I was relatively unhealthy and had alot of tension I can go to the bathroom, my pelvic floor locked up one day because I over-indulged in salt cleanse, then I started having a hard time emptying my bowel normally. However I do agree with you currently the tightness is aggravating my issue since they seem to come up whenever I do circle walking. Thank you for any further input you'd have!
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Yes actually and they said my Pelvic floor only had some mild tightness, my issue came from severe constipation and having to repeatedly strain I am currently under going physical therapy for it, as for my spine specifically they didn't say there was anything of note and I recently had an X-RAY taken so if there's any problems it should pop up there.
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I am actually experiencing a minor form of Zi Fa Gong when not actively practicing qigong. I wonder what I did wrong, all I did was stand.
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When did your Zi Fa Gong stop?
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Yeah circle walking is a huge part of Baguazhang, it's essentially zhan zhuang but just moving it's supposed to be a safe practice. I do zhan zhuang just fine.
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To be honest most of the teachers I've met even if they were TCM weren't really knowledgeable of what's going on, the TCM doctor I met seems to know the issue but when I focused my attention to the dantian it just caused more pressure to build up. I am working on PT and fixing my pelvic floor issues to see if it helped. Zi Fa Gong itself seems to help heal my body but Circle walking, seems to be causing alot of pressure inside.
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My current teacher isn't too much into the strange phenomenas, he's more practical and is just a practice until you get it type of guy. He was accommodating and just let me do whatever postures were comfortable, but now I notice I cannot do CIRCLE WALKING at all without creating blockages where as before, this seemed to happen around the same time I started being able to let my breath travel down to my feet.
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Appreciate your time and response!
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Okay thank you, I really appreciate that! I also wanted to ask you since you were kind enough to come help me up, when I circle walk I notice that I get a blockage in my stomach and the more I advance in my zhan zhuang it seems the more the blockages are created by the Circle walking do you have any advice for me? Thank you.
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I do allow the Zi Fa Gong to happen! I am just wondering if I am hitting a ceiling or my body needs to change in some way in order to progress further? I don't think it's anything unique and allow it to happen on it's own, but it seems like there's areas where the tension won't release due to structural issues.
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Hi I am a practitioner of internal martial arts for about 1.5 years now, I am a skeptic when it comes to mystical thing but have a few strange experience I hope everyone can help with and to learn more about other people and their experience.
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I actually made a post on this on Daoist Discussions, in fact I need some help right about now lol.
